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Post by Alex on Oct 11, 2020 11:52:11 GMT
Not an official Harry's Garage video but worth the watch
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Post by Andy C on Oct 11, 2020 22:05:18 GMT
Sold for £60k . Wonder if he did buy it back
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Post by johnc on Dec 7, 2020 13:30:11 GMT
The Government should just hire Harry as their motoring and common sense advisor. It's hard to remember anything that talked so much sense v the nonsense you see in the press. In fact fake news in newspapers, online, in Social Media and on the TV should be punishable with something seriously unpleasant - cleaning out the sewers or something similar would do.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 8, 2020 19:41:42 GMT
Unfortunately, the application of common sense and basic maths to this topic does not support the narrative.
If the relevant Government department/think tank hasn't done these sums in greater detail (such as including all your oxides and other nasties) and set a base line level of assumptions (e.g - this plan only really has a net gain if we can drastically reduce c02 output for electron production) then I would be very surprised.
I can only assume that the numbers don't support the popular theory (or build a strong enough case), so they don't show them or make it available for review.
Imagine a world where Government publish their workings and ask for the great and the good to review and challenge where appropriate.
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Post by michael on Dec 8, 2020 21:06:02 GMT
I like the idea that we all stick solar panels on our roof so we can charge our cars up at night. Something about that doesn’t add up.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 9, 2020 9:44:10 GMT
Do we think they've worked out how to replace fuel duty and VED in the brave new world ?
- Road pricing will be a hugely costly to set up and administer (and it's not popular option).
- Taxation cannot be loaded onto general electricity pricing (how would you differentiate energy used to charge an EV versus that used to boil the kettle or cook your pie and chips ?).
- How can VED be flexed to reflect mileage ?
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 9, 2020 10:08:31 GMT
This is a really good interview and seems we might be a little more organised then I give those in power credit for when it comes to the electric revolution.
The problem I find when we talk about electric is that everythings based on an ideal that we all have a car parking space at our homes, office, gym etc when the government policy has been to restrict these spaces to encourage public transport.
Lets be honest, in 20 years time I can see mass car ownership being a thing of the past.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 9, 2020 13:16:30 GMT
I am not so sure, there is still a massive contingent of the workforce who have jobs that require a physical presence - their transportation needs are not currently served by public offerings (especially now the authorities have a taste for just switching things off when they deem it appropriate). There are some small industrial estates not far from where I live and they are rammed with parked cars (seemingly unaffected by recent events), so I would expect that the ending of mass car ownership would need to coincide with the ending of mass employment (e.g - Robots replacing the workforce with the displaced on universal credit).
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Post by michael on Dec 9, 2020 13:36:58 GMT
Do we think they've worked out how to replace fuel duty and VED in the brave new world ? - Road pricing will be a hugely costly to set up and administer (and it's not popular option). - Taxation cannot be loaded onto general electricity pricing (how would you differentiate energy used to charge an EV versus that used to boil the kettle or cook your pie and chips ?). - How can VED be flexed to reflect mileage ? Road pricing will be part of it but I've heard smart meters will help to apply tax.
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Post by PG on Dec 9, 2020 15:25:17 GMT
Road pricing is going to be hugely unpopular. But then last time it was mooted it was in addition to VED and fuel tax. If it could be instead of fuel tax, then it might stand a chance of being accepted. Or it will have to be introduced only for electric vehicles.
I'm not sure you need huge infrastructure to have road pricing. On a KISS basis, just make an MOT mandatory for all cars from 1 year old. Have your mileage read year to year and pay the relevant amount along with your MOT fee. Or more likely we'd set up a monthly direct debit and have an account that is either in credit or debit (much like your electric account now) and set a minimum payment per year as a backstop if you want to. At the same time use ANPR and checks to catch non-MOT cars and remove them from the road. I am sure the system would be open to fraud (clock tampering), but that can't be worse than the number of non-MOT and non-insured cars on the road now?
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Post by johnc on Dec 9, 2020 18:57:25 GMT
All new cars from next year are going to be "tracked" for their speed and all new cars from 2015 I think have a sim card sending back information to the manufacturer. All the authorities need do is plug into that information and send you a monthly bill for the miles travelled and a few extra £'s for any minor speeding breaches!
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Post by Alex on Dec 9, 2020 19:37:57 GMT
One could argue that we already have road pricing in the form of fuel duty. The more you drive the more you pay. Implementing it should, in theory, be as simple as plugging in a black box to the car and using it to supply gps information on the cars use with the registered keeper being automatically billed. But that is in theory, I'm sure there will be many hurdles to cross to get it to actually work correctly, not least getting it past the electorate who wont necessarily buy the argument that this is a replacement for lost fuel duty. Most people will just see it as having to pay to use a service they already pay for with their road tax.
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Post by johnc on Dec 9, 2020 20:54:03 GMT
And a very large number of people will object to being tracked everywhere they go. The Police on the other hand will love it.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 10, 2020 8:57:27 GMT
I don't think they will - they might moan about it, but they will do feck all about it.
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Post by Alex on Dec 10, 2020 9:33:08 GMT
I don't think they will - they might moan about it, but they will do feck all about it. Just remind them that their smartphone is already tracking them and has been for years!
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 10, 2020 9:44:16 GMT
I don't think they will - they might moan about it, but they will do feck all about it. I guess for most of the population it makes no difference, me on the other hand, I'd be incriminating myself 10 times in the first mile. I do agree that its a shame as a nation we don't have more information on tracking as I'm sure we'd be rather concerned given the tabs put on us.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 21, 2020 19:23:58 GMT
Base 992 Carrera featured - very positive review except for the polite, but insistent kicking in relation to road noise.
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 21, 2020 20:14:53 GMT
I'm just not a fan of the looks, both inside and outside. I still take a 991 over the 992.
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Post by Martin on Dec 21, 2020 20:22:33 GMT
I’d be very happy with a 991, but prefer the 992, as its that bit more modern inside and out.
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Post by Alex on Dec 22, 2020 6:32:49 GMT
I'm just not a fan of the looks, both inside and outside. I still take a 991 over the 992. I'm in your camp Ed in terms of exterior. The rear looks a little fussy and the front has a big rectangular block of black running across the bumper which just looks slightly unfinished and totally out of kilter with the rounded lines of the rest of the car.
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Post by Tim on Dec 22, 2020 8:56:06 GMT
It's irritated me for a while that Porsche's DRLs are 4 points of light in a square pattern but the headlights are round.
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Post by Andy C on Jan 24, 2021 19:29:27 GMT
Looks good externally , but it doesn’t look much fun on that country Lane . Yes it’s cold and a bit greasy , but my god it’s snappy
And then there’s that touch screen, and all the warning bongs ... :@
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Post by michael on Jan 24, 2021 20:00:41 GMT
I went off them a bit having seen this video. I think it'd look better with a bit more bodywork after the rear wheels. The interior doesn't look that nice a place to be, either. Technology can be done with discretion but that application just looks (and sounds) stressful. I thought it was going to be the daily Ferrari that gets on with the job and no fuss unless you want it. It isn't that.
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Post by chipbutty on Jan 24, 2021 22:00:44 GMT
The Roma is the most boring sounding v8 i’ve ever heard and £220k is just a monumental piss take. Interesting comment from Harry responding to a viewer....
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Post by Alex on Jan 24, 2021 23:10:13 GMT
I can't believe (well ok, I can) that Ferrari charge over £2k for adaptive cruise when Hyundai included it for free on my car. Cant help wondering if the Koreans are missing a trick there. Most mainstream manufacturers only charge about £600 for metallic paint too. If only they knew you could actually charge 7 grand for it. And where do we start with the carbon bits? Although it is a well known fact that many buyers actually want to have to pay such a hefty mark up for these options and Ferrari are not exactly the only one's who exploit the willingness of the mega-rich to part with significant sums of cash.
Overall I really want to like the Roma but it's quite clear that it has too much power to use safely on a daily basis. Maybe on a dry summers day it would work well, but watching the video you couldn't help noticing that there were several occasions when a less experienced driver would have wrapped it round a tree. I know it was a cold, wet, wintery day but if it's supposed to be a GT that shouldnt be a problem.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jan 25, 2021 10:04:25 GMT
I think I could live with one quite happily though doubt I'd like to take the residual risk or having my trousers taken down over the options list.
I quite like the interior, no its not very Ferrari but then the Romas a change from the ordinary. The lack of volume button seems ridiculous but I guess you get over that by using the button on the steering wheel.
The bit where he was pushing on, the car did look top drawer and maybe where the significantly cheaper F-Type would have fired you off the road a few miles previously this looked pretty surefooted. I'd love a go in an F-Type V8 RWD to see what sort of monster it is.
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Post by Stuntman on Jan 25, 2021 20:50:21 GMT
I can't believe (well ok, I can) that Ferrari charge over £2k for adaptive cruise when Hyundai included it for free on my car. Cant help wondering if the Koreans are missing a trick there. Most mainstream manufacturers only charge about £600 for metallic paint too. If only they knew you could actually charge 7 grand for it. And where do we start with the carbon bits? Although it is a well known fact that many buyers actually want to have to pay such a hefty mark up for these options and Ferrari are not exactly the only one's who exploit the willingness of the mega-rich to part with significant sums of cash. Overall I really want to like the Roma but it's quite clear that it has too much power to use safely on a daily basis. Maybe on a dry summers day it would work well, but watching the video you couldn't help noticing that there were several occasions when a less experienced driver would have wrapped it round a tree. I know it was a cold, wet, wintery day but if it's supposed to be a GT that shouldnt be a problem. Pretty much any RWD car with 300 horsepower or more will be a handful on summer tyres on those kinds of roads in those kinds of temperatures. My two certainly are, as were there immediate predecessors.
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Post by michael on Jan 31, 2021 17:11:28 GMT
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Post by johnc on Jan 31, 2021 19:07:07 GMT
I'd love a go in an F-Type V8 RWD to see what sort of monster it is. I had a client who bought a used one and within a couple of weeks he had taken it back and changed it for the 4WD one and a good bit more wedge. He test drove it on a nice warm day and thought it was fine but it then turned a bit wet and he got so nervous after a few biggish moments that he just couldn't live with it. I think his wife had something to do with it after he overcooked it on a roundabout but it did give him a big fright.
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Post by garry on Jan 31, 2021 20:19:56 GMT
I'd love a go in an F-Type V8 RWD to see what sort of monster it is. I had a client who bought a used one and within a couple of weeks he had taken it back and changed it for the 4WD one and a good bit more wedge. He test drove it on a nice warm day and thought it was fine but it then turned a bit wet and he got so nervous after a few biggish moments that he just couldn't live with it. I think his wife had something to do with it after he overcooked it on a roundabout but it did give him a big fright. I drove an early f type v8 RWD and your clients experience resonates. It was huge fun, the engine was epic, but you had to be paying attention to keep it in a straight line. I couldn’t imagine it being a place you’d want to be when you simply wanted to get home on a dark winter night. I had three ‘moments’ in a circa 20 mile test drive and I wouldn’t say I was pushing too hard. The 911 is completely predictable (and therefore much faster) down the same road in the same conditions with me at the wheel.
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