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Post by Martin on Apr 16, 2021 20:36:17 GMT
Standard headlights on dipped are superb. Main is crap as there isn't a supplemental halogen to back up the HIDs so this comes on with the main beam. That’s the problem with bi-xenons, still better than halogens though and must be an improvement on the LR?
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 16, 2021 20:40:14 GMT
I fitted all singing and dancing LEDs to the Land Rover and the light bar along with roof lights came on with the main beam.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 16, 2021 20:41:43 GMT
I do think the battle flag of the Confederacy would look good on the hood.
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Post by ChrisM on Apr 16, 2021 20:44:38 GMT
Don't tell me you want Mark to paint "01" on each front door too?
... or spend 16 years converting it into a hearse ??
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Post by Martin on Apr 16, 2021 20:47:46 GMT
I do think the battle flag of the Confederacy would look good on the hood. It will need an engine swap to carry that off, something petrol and V8. Just a couple of days work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 20:50:50 GMT
If anything it would need to be the St Andrew cross, a bit like the drivers do on race cars, probably under the door handle or such. A big blue and white cross on the roof might be a bit much style wise.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 20:52:03 GMT
I do think the battle flag of the Confederacy would look good on the hood. It will need an engine swap to carry that off, something petrol and V8. Just a couple of days work. More like an M5 V-10 to make it 'interesting', and a bit different.
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 22, 2021 20:03:20 GMT
I just couldn't help it. EU approved A bar installed and light bar transferred to it.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 23, 2021 8:06:49 GMT
it’s like a sickness...
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Post by Martin on Apr 23, 2021 8:14:08 GMT
it’s like a sickness... No words.... just I saw a clip of James May having a moan about various things and pickups was on the list. Amongst other things, he likened them to buying a saloon car and removing the boot lid!
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Post by Tim on Apr 23, 2021 8:48:37 GMT
What inner city does James May live in?
I've got a pile of strips of wood outside that were formerly a tongue and groove ceiling. I don't fancy my chances of taking them to the dump in a saloon car but a pickup would be extremely handy.
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Post by Martin on Apr 23, 2021 9:44:42 GMT
What inner city does James May live in? I've got a pile of strips of wood outside that were formerly a tongue and groove ceiling. I don't fancy my chances of taking them to the dump in a saloon car but a pickup would be extremely handy. He said if need to move stuff, buy a van. Just sharing what he said!
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Post by Roadrunner on Apr 23, 2021 9:48:51 GMT
What inner city does James May live in? I've got a pile of strips of wood outside that were formerly a tongue and groove ceiling. I don't fancy my chances of taking them to the dump in a saloon car but a pickup would be extremely handy. He lives in London. All rural households should have a pickup or use of some sort. It just makes sense.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 23, 2021 20:33:58 GMT
Four months and 4k miles in. I made the right decision. I really like the truck.
I was actually contemplating cars today and if I didn't mind running my car myself, I would probably have a Disco 4 or RRS. I wouldn't run one as a company car as the tax and class 1 would be eye-watering. A pickup is a decent compromise, I think.
I like the way it drives. It is quite pointy, despite slightly vague steering, but it's a revelation after a Defender. It gets uncomfortable when hustled along quickly, but it's a relaxing drive if you take it easy. We are booked to go to Devon in September and I won't be taking the MX-5. That being said it canbbe hustled when needed and has a decent turn of pace.
It's comfortable inside. It has taken me a while to tweak the driving position, but I have it now. Lack of memory seat is a minor pain, but Lindsey doesn't drive it that often. It's pretty quiet, has a good infotainment system and the AC is icy. The climate control is hit and miss on auto - I blame lack of solar sensor so it needs manipulating to keep comfortable but it isn't exactly a hardship.
Back seats are reasonable and probably best in class - L200 has more rear legroom than any other pickup apparently - this may be at cost of headroom, but I am not uncomfortable sat behind myself.
Love the fact I can chuck stuff in the load bed and not give a shit. I won't be getting a canopy. I like the looks and haven't felt like I need more secure load space. I have added load bars to the bed so can carry stuff on them and may get a small roof box for Le Mans.
Other than some decent tyres and an A Bar to mount a light on, I don't feel the need for any modifications. I am tempted by roof rails so I can carry a ladder or such, but haven't needed to yet.
I don't like parts costs. Mitsubishi have always been costly, but £400 for a bumper strengthener is taking the piss and £500 for the bumper cover is worse. I've heard scare stories about routine service costs - will have to see.
I did buy at the right time. New pickups are in short supply and as a result, used ones have skyrocketed. Isuzu can't supply a new one until next year and Toyota have handed deposits back as they can't give a date. There was a used L200 from a dealer on a 16 plate with 36k miles at the same price I paid for my 19 plate with 12k from a franchised dealer.
I miss my Land Rover and I have motivation to get the Cummins built now, but as a daily vehicle, I don't miss the "will it/won't it" and constant maintenance the Defender needed. I think I am genuinely a pickup convert.
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Post by Martin on Jun 23, 2021 20:48:47 GMT
Sounds absolutely perfect for what you need a vehicle for Mark.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 23:07:13 GMT
^ Agreed, it sounds like the round peg in the round hole.
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Post by PG on Jun 24, 2021 10:17:32 GMT
Sounds good.
Our Shogun climate control has the same hit or miss approach to temperatures. You have to constantly fiddle with the temperature to be comfortable.
Do you need to use a Mitsubishi dealer for the servicing? We save a fortune by using a local mechanic instead of the nearest dealer. We only take it to the dealer if it is something that he can't solve.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 24, 2021 14:30:23 GMT
It has 3 years warranty left, so peace of mind, I will use the dealer. I will either buy a proper service tool or send it to the 4x4 specialists when the warranty expires.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 24, 2021 17:21:43 GMT
Sounds good. Our Shogun climate control has the same hit or miss approach to temperatures. You have to constantly fiddle with the temperature to be comfortable. Must be a Mitsubishi thing because my Galant was the same.
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Post by Martin on Jun 24, 2021 17:42:17 GMT
Sounds good. Our Shogun climate control has the same hit or miss approach to temperatures. You have to constantly fiddle with the temperature to be comfortable. Do you need to use a Mitsubishi dealer for the servicing? We save a fortune by using a local mechanic instead of the nearest dealer. We only take it to the dealer if it is something that he can't solve. I guess Mark has a similar issue in the Land Rover and had to constantly fiddle with the angle of the window to get the temperature right, although that only worked up to about 16-17c!
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Post by Alex on Jun 24, 2021 21:47:34 GMT
Sounds good. Our Shogun climate control has the same hit or miss approach to temperatures. You have to constantly fiddle with the temperature to be comfortable. Must be a Mitsubishi thing because my Galant was the same. I would say it's a Japanese thing because the Civic I had was the same. Icy cold or furnace hot with little inbetween. I know the Civic was built in Swindon but I've heard that Japanese cars are known for having particularly icy air con. Anyway it sounds like you've made a good choice Mark. Having a company car all these years I've been relatively spoilt in terms of reliability and knowing I can turn on and drive every day without worry. If the Defender wasn't able to provide that you had no choice but to get something more modern. What's causing the shortage of pick ups? Is it the microchip shortage or have builders been making so much money from people wanting extensions for home working that they can all afford new trucks?
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 25, 2021 6:48:28 GMT
I think it's the chip shortage. That and higher demand for Toyotas and Isuzus as Mitsubishi and Nissan pulling out of the UK market. Nissan are still here obviously, but the Navara is no more.
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Post by PG on Jun 25, 2021 9:13:05 GMT
... Nissan are still here obviously, but the Navara is no more. I just don't get why Nissan dropped the Navara, or didn't replace it with a new model. They seem to be everywhere you look. OK, that's the UK, but I can't believe it was an utter failure everywhere else.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 25, 2021 10:14:39 GMT
Downturn in the market so not worth upgrading the European factory for the new model - it is closing instead.
It's still being built in the USA for their market and South America.
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Post by Tim on Jun 25, 2021 10:36:15 GMT
I liked the previous Navara (there, I've said it) from 2005 to about 2016 but the newer one just looked like everything else.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 25, 2021 10:48:10 GMT
I quite like the current Navara - certainly they have more FG than my truck and the interiors are nicer, but both of my immediate neighbours have one which made me want something different. They have both had niggly issues with them too and they don't have a centre differential so 4x4 can't be used on the road.
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Post by PG on Jun 25, 2021 12:37:58 GMT
I quite like the current Navara - certainly they have more FG than my truck and the interiors are nicer, but both of my immediate neighbours have one which made me want something different. They have both had niggly issues with them too and they don't have a centre differential so 4x4 can't be used on the road. This would also kill it for me. And is one of the things that pisses me off whenever I see a review / group test of pickups. Nobody ever explains if each one has a proper AWD system or not.
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Post by Martin on Jun 25, 2021 13:45:47 GMT
I quite like the current Navara - certainly they have more FG than my truck and the interiors are nicer, but both of my immediate neighbours have one which made me want something different. They have both had niggly issues with them too and they don't have a centre differential so 4x4 can't be used on the road. This would also kill it for me. And is one of the things that pisses me off whenever I see a review / group test of pickups. Nobody ever explains if each one has a proper AWD system or not. It probably only benefited me on the one day it properly snowed, but I find it quite interesting watching the 4x4i screen that shows you what the active centre and rear diffs are doing on my car. They can partially lock (infinitely variable apparently), which both do when you set off (in auto terrain mode) and if you do that more quickly the centre one locks fully before quickly unlocking. They all get the centre diff but only the V8's have the rear one.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 25, 2021 13:54:31 GMT
When I tested the Disco 4 with Michael and Piers many moons ago, I recall being fascinated by the similar sort of thing.
The L200 actually has a Torsen LSD in the middle which can be fully locked by the driver if required. There isn't a rear locking diff, but the traction control plays a part to an extent.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 25, 2021 13:55:50 GMT
I quite like the current Navara - certainly they have more FG than my truck and the interiors are nicer, but both of my immediate neighbours have one which made me want something different. They have both had niggly issues with them too and they don't have a centre differential so 4x4 can't be used on the road. This would also kill it for me. And is one of the things that pisses me off whenever I see a review / group test of pickups. Nobody ever explains if each one has a proper AWD system or not. The Amarok has permanent 4Motion AWD, but the lack of low 'box put it out of the running. I use low all the time when maneuvering trailers in tight spots.
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