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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 10:05:02 GMT
You'll need to invest in an old-fashioned steering lock apparently. Every single RR around here wears one. I've just switched my GAP insurance over instead. I don't want to tempt fate, but it's fairly quiet where I live and well away from a main road, I would think differently if I lived somewhere else. Hopefully the wrong sort will be more interested in the 650s next door, although that is in the garage. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 18, 2020 10:05:15 GMT
You'll need to invest in an old-fashioned steering lock apparently. Every single RR around here wears one. Range Rover Autobiographies don't get stolen -the thief breaks in during the night but by the time he's adjusted the 24 way seats it's morning and the coppers nab him on your driveway. |
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 10:06:31 GMT
I've been remote starting all of my JLR cars since 2016. It's a fantastic feature and I use it regularly. If it was illegal, that functionality would surely be unavailable ? It's quite legal to run an ICE car unattended on private land - your drive - but not on the road. Although I'm not sure if that law also catches auxiliary diesel heaters like we are discussing. I can't see that is the same as leaving the engine running. I wonder if there has ever been a test case? It does both, uses the auxiliary heater and remote starts if it needs to cool the car. It times out after 30 mins, I don't know whether that's law or common sense. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 18, 2020 10:21:48 GMT
You'll need to invest in an old-fashioned steering lock apparently. Every single RR around here wears one. I've just switched my GAP insurance over instead. I don't want to tempt fate, but it's fairly quiet where I live and well away from a main road, I would think differently if I lived somewhere else. Hopefully the wrong sort will be more interested in the 650s next door, although that is in the garage. How much is GAP on that, if you don't mind me asking!? |
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 10:25:29 GMT
I've just switched my GAP insurance over instead. I don't want to tempt fate, but it's fairly quiet where I live and well away from a main road, I would think differently if I lived somewhere else. Hopefully the wrong sort will be more interested in the 650s next door, although that is in the garage. How much is GAP on that, if you don't mind me asking!? It was £450 for back to invoice on a 4 year policy, which has a max cover of £50k. It would have been cheaper to get a new policy, but I had a couple of years left on the BMW one, so got a credit of £130 to use against it. I could probably have got some back by cancelling, but it was easier and I was happy with £320 for 4 years peace of mind. |
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Post by johnc on Jun 18, 2020 12:50:18 GMT
I've been remote starting all of my JLR cars since 2016. It's a fantastic feature and I use it regularly. If it was illegal, that functionality would surely be unavailable ? BMW specifically mention that the feature is not available in the UK! |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 18, 2020 16:31:56 GMT
You'll need to invest in an old-fashioned steering lock apparently. Every single RR around here wears one. I'm caught up now! I think RRs are 2nd only to RS Audis in the currently being stolen league. RF pouches for keys and a visible steering lock wouldn't be a bad idea. The tracker is certainly good and the pros are very good at finding them and or removing power to them. You're not for off some major road links and therefore cars can be spirited away in no time. I'd consider the same for the Golf too. Aside from that, enjoy wafting about in it! |
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 18:22:25 GMT
You'll need to invest in an old-fashioned steering lock apparently. Every single RR around here wears one. I'm caught up now! I think RRs are 2nd only to RS Audis in the currently being stolen league. RF pouches for keys and a visible steering lock wouldn't be a bad idea. The tracker is certainly good and the pros are very good at finding them and or removing power to them. You're not for off some major road links and therefore cars can be spirited away in no time. I'd consider the same for the Golf too. Aside from that, enjoy wafting about in it! Thanks PC Stu! I’ve got several pouches and check them now and again to make sure they still work properly. The first set lasted about 18 months before you could open the car with the pouch next to the door. Wouldn’t be able to scan them from outside the house, but better to be safe than sorry. My thinking is make it difficult enough to stop the semi-professional thief but not so difficult that the more serious car thief has to break into the house for the keys / immobiliser device / steering lock keys. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 19:43:52 GMT
Not forgetting the stones being thrown at the bedroom window followed by a demand to "throw the keys down or we come in and get them".
Just a thought, should you throw the keys down as demanded to avoid injury to self and family, would the insurance be void?
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 18, 2020 19:55:08 GMT
Not forgetting the stones being thrown at the bedroom window followed by a demand to "throw the keys down or we come in and get them".
Just a thought, should you throw the keys down as demanded to avoid injury to self and family, would the insurance be void?
I'd have a the spare key to hand. With something extremely heavy as a keyring. |
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Post by bryan on Jun 18, 2020 20:50:58 GMT
Ever since the house was broken into in a fairly violent way for the TT the keys have been left downstairs
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Post by Andy C on Jun 18, 2020 21:13:05 GMT
Composite door, 3 star cylinder and laminate glass helped ease my worries slightly
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Post by bryan on Jun 18, 2020 23:02:39 GMT
About 2330 they smashed a hole through a laminated patio door (I was in bed, it felt like chimney falling off the roof), the alarm went off with sirens inside as well as out and then they started smashing through the solid wood internal doors that I locked each evening.
They gave up at the door between the lounge and the hallway....I wouldn't have wanted to meet them!
Cost £1000s in damage but nothing actually taken!
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Post by garry on Jun 19, 2020 6:53:09 GMT
About 2330 they smashed a hole through a laminated patio door (I was in bed, it felt like chimney falling off the roof), the alarm went off with sirens inside as well as out and then they started smashing through the solid wood internal doors that I locked each evening. They gave up at the door between the lounge and the hallway....I wouldn't have wanted to meet them! Cost £1000s in damage but nothing actually taken! That’s pretty scary. One of my near neighbours was the football player Duncan Ferguson. He was once burgled, and both burglars ended up in hospital after taking a proper battering from him (whilst he was stark naked). A few months later two more tried and got the same result. I know the sensible thing to do is to let them take stuff and keep yourself safe. I also know that my caveman instincts kick in and I’d fight anything that turned up unannounced in the middle of the night at my house. |
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Post by Alex on Jun 19, 2020 6:58:58 GMT
It's one of those situations where you kind of feel that once they're determined to get to the keys it's better to just let them get on with it rather than have to face a determined professional theif who's not afraid to fight for his prize. There's a lot to be said though for making your car the one they don't bother with. Where Martin lives I doubt the new RR is the only large premium SUV in town so by putting a steering wheel lock on it might mean they go for the other one down the street that doesn't have one. Far less hassle. We're rather well protected by the guy who keeps a bright green Focus RS on his drive a few doors down.
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Post by johnc on Jun 19, 2020 7:16:59 GMT
There is a guy near me with and RS3 saloon and he puts a wheel clamp on it every night (either that or someone official puts it on every day and he cuts it off every morning!)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 8:02:05 GMT
We are out of the way here but more and more people have noticed Bess at the stupor market which is a bit concerning, mostly people just want to know about the Audi or the estate car Porsche built etc. A few have recognised the make and type correctly but not many.
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Post by bryan on Jun 19, 2020 8:40:19 GMT
About 2330 they smashed a hole through a laminated patio door (I was in bed, it felt like chimney falling off the roof), the alarm went off with sirens inside as well as out and then they started smashing through the solid wood internal doors that I locked each evening. They gave up at the door between the lounge and the hallway....I wouldn't have wanted to meet them! Cost £1000s in damage but nothing actually taken! That’s pretty scary. One of my near neighbours was the football player Duncan Ferguson. He was once burgled, and both burglars ended up in hospital after taking a proper battering from him (whilst he was stark naked). A few months later two more tried and got the same result. I know the sensible thing to do is to let them take stuff and keep yourself safe. I also know that my caveman instincts kick in and I’d fight anything that turned up unannounced in the middle of the night at my house. I thought caveman reaction too, but in reality I took my time getting dressed and went downstairs and straight outside. Where I met my next door neighbour and we went in together with two very large Dcell torches....but they had scarpered. Now if they had actually come into the bedroom, that may have got a different reaction. There was a set of Allen keys from the kitchen in the garden, so it was keys they were after. |
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 19, 2020 9:12:15 GMT
Seeing as I have only have the Volvo and Focus on the drive currently I wouldn't be so concerned as to have a fight over them but if it was the 993 or GT4 they were after I'd be having none of it.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 19, 2020 10:03:17 GMT
As there's quite a lot of easily-accessed glazing at the back of the house, we have an all-singing and dancing burglar alarm which is both monitored and linked to the Police, and we set it at night as well as whenever we leave the house. Nevertheless, I leave the keys to both cars downstairs in an easy-to-find oddments tray, to dissuade thieves from coming up two flights of stairs to the bedrooms. The BMW has ROI insurance, and the Fiat isn't worth enough to get overly fussed about. I also keep a couple of items upstairs that could be used to defend us against anyone attempting to come up the stairs.
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Post by Alex on Jun 19, 2020 12:14:58 GMT
Apparently a good tip if you have a baseball bat to defend yourself is to put a light sock over it. It will still be painful for the person who gets hit with it but if they make to grab it off you, all they'll get is the sock.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 19, 2020 13:46:38 GMT
When we had an attempted break in I slept with a 36mm ring spanner next to the bed for a few nights afterwards.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 19, 2020 14:39:22 GMT
When we had an attempted break in I slept with a 36mm ring spanner next to the bed for a few nights afterwards. You must be nuts (I'll get my coat.......) |
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 19, 2020 15:48:03 GMT
I have a large step-ladder that lives in a cupboard on the upstairs landing. I've always thought that with the benefit of being at the top of quite a steep and quasi-spiral staircase, if I shoved that down the stairs, it would make life difficult and create at least a temporary barrier.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 19, 2020 15:52:46 GMT
Shotgun cabinet is somewhere upstairs.
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Post by Andy C on Jun 19, 2020 15:54:36 GMT
About 2330 they smashed a hole through a laminated patio door (I was in bed, it felt like chimney falling off the roof), the alarm went off with sirens inside as well as out and then they started smashing through the solid wood internal doors that I locked each evening. They gave up at the door between the lounge and the hallway....I wouldn't have wanted to meet them! Cost £1000s in damage but nothing actually taken!  . I once watched a video of a man trying to break through a Rockdoor composite with laminate glass. He couldn't get through after what seemed like an eternity of trying with all sorts. I think it made the papers as the front door that would defeat the bobbies trying to get in. I also think Rockdoor have the only patio doors that are secure by design and claim to be pretty much burglar proof. |
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Post by Alex on Jun 19, 2020 17:47:59 GMT
Our kids just leave loads of shit everywhere for them to trip over!
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Post by bryan on Jun 19, 2020 18:31:03 GMT
About 2330 they smashed a hole through a laminated patio door (I was in bed, it felt like chimney falling off the roof), the alarm went off with sirens inside as well as out and then they started smashing through the solid wood internal doors that I locked each evening. They gave up at the door between the lounge and the hallway....I wouldn't have wanted to meet them! Cost £1000s in damage but nothing actually taken! . I once watched a video of a man trying to break through a Rockdoor composite with laminate glass. He couldn't get through after what seemed like an eternity of trying with all sorts. I think it made the papers as the front door that would defeat the bobbies trying to get in. I also think Rockdoor have the only patio doors that are secure by design and claim to be pretty much burglar proof. I had 4 square concrete planters which they used to make the hole. |
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Post by PG on Jun 19, 2020 19:18:25 GMT
. I had 4 square concrete planters which they used to make the hole. And all for a Audi TT....... A nice car but these people must be desperate to fulfil their orders. |
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 19, 2020 19:22:05 GMT
Our kids just leave loads of shit everywhere for them to trip over! Yep. Our break in was attempted via the playroom: they'd have been killed before the reached the door on the other side of the room. We close the door when the cleaner comes. |
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. I once watched a video of a man trying to break through a Rockdoor composite with laminate glass. He couldn't get through after what seemed like an eternity of trying with all sorts. I think it made the papers as the front door that would defeat the bobbies trying to get in.