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Economy 4
May 19, 2021 9:43:27 GMT
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Post by Roadrunner on May 19, 2021 9:43:27 GMT
That's excellent. The Benz OBC generally reads between 40 and 42 MPG on the open road. A bit of town driving will bring the average down to about 37.
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Post by Tim on May 19, 2021 10:03:11 GMT
The OBC on the 430 is reading 39.5 which is a bit of a disappointment until I remember that most journeys have been fairly short (5-10 miles) and I'm struggling not to use the performance whenever possible, which is most of the time  |
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Post by Martin on May 19, 2021 10:36:35 GMT
I've just had a look back at the 535d and over 96,000 miles it averaged 38.7mpg (OBC 39.2), so that was pretty accurate as well (2.5% different). The best mpg (full tank, not journey) was 47.4 (OBC 48.3), with it doing just over 700 miles on the tank. Great car/engine.
I'm just as impressed with the 750 though, average over 48k miles was 31.5mpg with a less accurate / much more optimistic OBC of 34.1. A much bigger difference between short and long journeys than the 535d though.
Who needs diesel on a small/medium car though, the Golf has averaged 33.9mpg over 27,000 miles and it has the most accurate OBC as well at 34.1 / 0.5% difference. To complete the set, I've done 11,000 miles in the RR and that has done 27.8mpg overall, but I don't suppose that's too bad for a near 2.5 tonne truck and it's better than the 25mpg I planned for when I bought it.
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Post by johnc on May 19, 2021 12:36:50 GMT
Martin, in your post, the screen in the car shows the accelerator at 4.6, what looks like a speedo and a symbol for the brake. What are these. The i-Pace has started to show these on the dash after a recent software update and I can't work out what they are trying to tell us. It's the efficiency score (acceleration / speed / braking), with 5 being the best, although I'm sure we'd all agree that 5 is the worst....so apologies for my behaviour! The 92% is an overall efficiency score and it's all far more suited to the iPace. The i-Pace has 5 small green lights below each symbol so we don't get an exact percentage. How do they measure efficiency of speed and braking? Does 5 for speed equate to how close to the speed limit you drive at: we are showing 5 all the time! As for the brake, that seldom gets used. Max regen gives you the stopping power of a very spirited driver without touching a pedal. |
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Post by johnc on May 19, 2021 12:41:20 GMT
After the winter of discontent my average mpg had slipped to 19.5 but a couple of longer trips and I am back up at 20.5. it does an easy 30mpg on a run.
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Post by Martin on May 19, 2021 13:38:21 GMT
It's the efficiency score (acceleration / speed / braking), with 5 being the best, although I'm sure we'd all agree that 5 is the worst....so apologies for my behaviour! The 92% is an overall efficiency score and it's all far more suited to the iPace. The i-Pace has 5 small green lights below each symbol so we don't get an exact percentage. How do they measure efficiency of speed and braking? Does 5 for speed equate to how close to the speed limit you drive at: we are showing 5 all the time! As for the brake, that seldom gets used. Max regen gives you the stopping power of a very spirited driver without touching a pedal. I don't really know how it works, as I only see it when I reset Trip A after filling up or when it pops up to tell me it's a new high score, which has only happened twice. |
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Post by Martin on May 19, 2021 13:39:10 GMT
After the winter of discontent my average mpg had slipped to 19.5 but a couple of longer trips and I am back up at 20.5. it does an easy 30mpg on a run. That's good for the size of car and performance, especially an easy 30 on a run. |
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Post by Tim on May 19, 2021 16:18:18 GMT
My M5 used to do,er, an easy 30 on a run. As long as that run was a steady 60 on the motorway.
However the average was usually around 25.
Now though it generally shows about 17 through a mixture of infrequent use, shorter journeys where the performance gets used and probably the need to refresh some underbonnet electrickery.
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Economy 4
May 19, 2021 17:19:04 GMT
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Post by rodge on May 19, 2021 17:19:04 GMT
Mines at a constant 17.9-18 mpg, and I drive it at around 80 on the highway most of the time.
Admittedly the gallons here are smaller, so it’s probably a bit higher using British units.
Premium is also at about $4.50 now thanks to Joe Biden.
It was rarely over $3.00 when Trump was in and regular was even as low as $1.99 at one stage.
It’s now costing me about $90 to fill up.
All that considered, it’s not an engine I like to idle with. Being willing to move and rev freely makes economy difficult 😜
Most of my driving is mixed- it will do 22-23mpg on longer runs.
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Post by Martin on May 19, 2021 17:27:25 GMT
Mines at a constant 17.9-18 mpg, and I drive it at around 80 on the highway most of the time. Admittedly the gallons here are smaller, so it’s probably a bit higher using British units. Premium is also at about $4.50 now thanks to Joe Biden. It was rarely over $3.00 when Trump was in and regular was even as low as $1.99 at one stage. It’s now costing me about $90 to fill up. All that considered, it’s not an engine I like to idle with. Being willing to move and rev freely makes economy difficult 😜 Most of my driving is mixed- it will do 22-23mpg on longer runs. 18mpg US = 21.6mpg imperial, 22-23 is 26.5-27.5. If I've got the maths right, $4.50 is about £0.85 a litre so still cheap, but appreciate a 50% increase is significant! I only use Tesco 99 or Shell V-Power, but that's around £1.30-£1.40 a litre so 65% more expensive and at $90, it is less than it costs to fill up the Golf. My car would cost $130+ to fill up at UK prices. |
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Economy 4
May 19, 2021 22:03:05 GMT
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Post by rodge on May 19, 2021 22:03:05 GMT
Mines at a constant 17.9-18 mpg, and I drive it at around 80 on the highway most of the time. Admittedly the gallons here are smaller, so it’s probably a bit higher using British units. Premium is also at about $4.50 now thanks to Joe Biden. It was rarely over $3.00 when Trump was in and regular was even as low as $1.99 at one stage. It’s now costing me about $90 to fill up. All that considered, it’s not an engine I like to idle with. Being willing to move and rev freely makes economy difficult 😜 Most of my driving is mixed- it will do 22-23mpg on longer runs. 18mpg US = 21.6mpg imperial, 22-23 is 26.5-27.5. If I've got the maths right, $4.50 is about £0.85 a litre so still cheap, but appreciate a 50% increase is significant! I only use Tesco 99 or Shell V-Power, but that's around £1.30-£1.40 a litre so 65% more expensive and at $90, it is less than it costs to fill up the Golf. My car would cost $130+ to fill up at UK prices. Ouch! Didn’t realise the price in the UK. I haven’t used V-Power in mine yet, I must do it next time I fill up as apparently Shell is still better than most other brands here for octane levels, especially for V-Power. Most brands are 91 whereas Shell is nearer 93. I have heard the ratings are also different here too, so have no idea if it’s actual octane ratings or some made up yank measurement. |
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Post by Martin on May 20, 2021 5:53:45 GMT
18mpg US = 21.6mpg imperial, 22-23 is 26.5-27.5. If I've got the maths right, $4.50 is about £0.85 a litre so still cheap, but appreciate a 50% increase is significant! I only use Tesco 99 or Shell V-Power, but that's around £1.30-£1.40 a litre so 65% more expensive and at $90, it is less than it costs to fill up the Golf. My car would cost $130+ to fill up at UK prices. Ouch! Didn’t realise the price in the UK. I haven’t used V-Power in mine yet, I must do it next time I fill up as apparently Shell is still better than most other brands here for octane levels, especially for V-Power. Most brands are 91 whereas Shell is nearer 93. I have heard the ratings are also different here too, so have no idea if it’s actual octane ratings or some made up yank measurement. I can’t remember what it’s called but They use a different measure, iirc 91 in the US equates to 95 in the UK, so your Shell 93 would be a bit lower than the 98 it is over here. |
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Post by johnc on May 20, 2021 7:44:38 GMT
My M5 used to do,er, an easy 30 on a run. As long as that run was a steady 60 on the motorway. However the average was usually around 25. Now though it generally shows about 17 through a mixture of infrequent use, shorter journeys where the performance gets used and probably the need to refresh some underbonnet electrickery. My car has 8 speeds which probably makes motorway and A road journeys a good bit more economical, as does the stop start. As soon as I get out on a decent bit of road I do try to enjoy some of the performance but it is so massively quick that the opportunities are over in a flash. On a local road there is a 40mph limit which leads on to a 250 yd straight and NSL before a fairly tight left hander and then a few good S bends. If I floor it as I leave the 40 limit my speed bong goes off long before braking or lifting off (if it weren't for the speed limit) would even be a consideration. |
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 4, 2021 22:39:39 GMT
 Not a normal set of stats. Alton Towers Hotel car park to our driveway via the M1 and M25. Never seen before and likely not again. |
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 4, 2021 23:15:35 GMT
The new job isn't doing my fuel economy any good..... From getting just under 50mpg commuting 20 miles each way largely on the M3, the Fiesta is now struggling to crack 35mpg on the approx 3 miles each way drive to and from work. I can at least console myself with the fact that a week's commuting costs about the same as a day's commute previously did, but I'm not sure that these short trips are good for the engine. I'll be interested to see what consumption I get out of the Kuga on the new commute, and the bike seems a realistic option in the summer on dry days Been using the Kuga on the commute for a few weeks now, and it's returning better mpg than the Fiesta |
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 5, 2021 9:41:12 GMT
These days, with 35k miles under its belt, I must say that the 440i’s long distance fuel consumption is really impressive for the performance available. To go the 1000 miles between London and Fano uses not much more than two tanks of fuel. On the way back last weekend, we left with a full tank (60 litre capacity). Stopped in Mendrisio in Switzerland and put in 38 litres. Stopped again near Strasbourg and put another 25 litres in and that got us back to London, just.
Edited to add that’s with a heavily laden car as well - we were three-up with half the back seat down and all available space stuffed with luggage, wine etc.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 5, 2021 12:53:16 GMT
The new job isn't doing my fuel economy any good..... From getting just under 50mpg commuting 20 miles each way largely on the M3, the Fiesta is now struggling to crack 35mpg on the approx 3 miles each way drive to and from work. I can at least console myself with the fact that a week's commuting costs about the same as a day's commute previously did, but I'm not sure that these short trips are good for the engine. I'll be interested to see what consumption I get out of the Kuga on the new commute, and the bike seems a realistic option in the summer on dry days Been using the Kuga on the commute for a few weeks now, and it's returning better mpg than the Fiesta If I had only a 3 mile commute I’d sell the Kuga or the Fiesta, probably the latter, and get a 5 litre Mustang because fuel economy would no longer be an issue for me. Or I’d cycle. |
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 14, 2021 8:33:27 GMT
First long journey in the V8.
Amazing number - a similar journey in my XKR 10 years ago (6 speed auto, but only 2wd) resulted in 26.2 mpg.
29 mpg
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Post by Martin on Jun 14, 2021 9:43:11 GMT
That's very good, especially based on an average door to door average speed that high. Not the most efficient 450hp V8 forum machine, but impressive all the same.
I see you're still on the old App, the functionality isn't all that different, but I prefer the new one.
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Post by chocy on Jun 14, 2021 11:22:02 GMT
I'm not sure that it's wise to make such a public display of your average speed.
I'm sure most of us love a little excessive speed at appropriate times, but this shows a total disregard for the speed limit.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 14, 2021 11:52:01 GMT
I'm not sure that it's wise to make such a public display of your average speed. I'm sure most of us love a little excessive speed at appropriate times, but this shows a total disregard for the speed limit. I was just thinking likewise. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 14, 2021 11:58:30 GMT
To be fair, it looks like motorway or dual carriageway almost door to door, so not much slow stuff to bring the average down, but some sections probably best redacted before public display.
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 14, 2021 12:48:23 GMT
It's a guide, not a calibrated tool. The calculation of average speed is incorrect (distance over time did not equate to the number shown on the app) and the route is almost all motorway (97%) - which is why I decided it was shareable.
However, rationality and the internet are not happy bedfellows.
Piccy removed.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 14, 2021 14:07:21 GMT
I’ve already saved it so when you become a famous cricketer I’ll post it on Twitter as you get your test debut
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Post by johnc on Sept 9, 2021 12:09:42 GMT
I am showing an average consumption of 20.2mpg just now (a lot of that down to the shorter journeys during Covid). Yesterday I left the office to go to see people in Edinburgh. The car showed I had a range of 228 miles based on my more recent fuel consumption. I travelled 103 miles there and back and the car showed I still had a range of 191 miles. I also did about 45 miles this morning and it is still showing 166 miles range so I reckon on a longer journey I am getting somewhere in the mid thirties which isn't bad. My car only has one trip for mpg which I don't want to reset, otherwise I could have got a more accurate figure
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 9, 2021 12:16:05 GMT
I've been checking the fuel consumption of mine since I got it, since last fill up, and by journey. It's more fuel efficient than the 3-series, averaging 49mpg since new and 54mpg on the way to and from work.
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Post by Martin on Sept 9, 2021 12:58:55 GMT
I am showing an average consumption of 20.2mpg just now (a lot of that down to the shorter journeys during Covid). Yesterday I left the office to go to see people in Edinburgh. The car showed I had a range of 228 miles based on my more recent fuel consumption. I travelled 103 miles there and back and the car showed I still had a range of 191 miles. I also did about 45 miles this morning and it is still showing 166 miles range so I reckon on a longer journey I am getting somewhere in the mid thirties which isn't bad. My car only has one trip for mpg which I don't want to reset, otherwise I could have got a more accurate figure My last couple of BMWs had two, one was for trips which reset after the car was shut down for a period and the other had to be reset manually. I used that second for between fill ups as I’m not as interested in the long term average. The RR has three, but the trip memory resets as soon as the engine is switched off which is a bit annoying when you stop mid journey. The Golf has three as well, the trip one works as per BMW, the between fill ups resets automatically when you refuel and it has a long term as well. What a fascinating post! |
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Post by Boxer6 on Sept 9, 2021 15:19:46 GMT
I am showing an average consumption of 20.2mpg just now (a lot of that down to the shorter journeys during Covid). Yesterday I left the office to go to see people in Edinburgh. The car showed I had a range of 228 miles based on my more recent fuel consumption. I travelled 103 miles there and back and the car showed I still had a range of 191 miles. I also did about 45 miles this morning and it is still showing 166 miles range so I reckon on a longer journey I am getting somewhere in the mid thirties which isn't bad. My car only has one trip for mpg which I don't want to reset, otherwise I could have got a more accurate figure My last couple of BMWs had two, one was for trips which reset after the car was shut down for a period and the other had to be reset manually. I used that second for between fill ups as I’m not as interested in the long term average. The RR has three, but the trip memory resets as soon as the engine is switched off which is a bit annoying when you stop mid journey. The Golf has three as well, the trip one works as per BMW, the between fill ups resets automatically when you refuel and it has a long term as well. What a fascinating post! I wonder if that's a German 'thing'? My GTI had only one trip which reset after about 2 hours of the car being switched off. The Skoda is the same for the electronic trip, which is also linked to the range meter and distance from last/long-term fill-up, but the manual trip on the dash has to be reset manually. I use an app on my phone for mpg etc, but the OBC on the Skoda is virtually bang on with app calculations, which I'm quite frankly amazed about! As for mpg; overall it's sitting a smidgin under 40mpg over the 3 1/2 years I've had it, but that includes a lot of the 'round the doors' mileage which did for the Legacy, and one of the main reasons for being wary of a 5-series replacement. Plus, it's a foot longer than the Octavia, and ?inches wider too! |
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Economy 4
Sept 9, 2021 16:17:44 GMT
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 9, 2021 16:17:44 GMT
You can tell the BMW not to reset the trip computer until you do it manually.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 10, 2021 7:51:30 GMT
I am showing an average consumption of 20.2mpg just now (a lot of that down to the shorter journeys during Covid). Yesterday I left the office to go to see people in Edinburgh. The car showed I had a range of 228 miles based on my more recent fuel consumption. I travelled 103 miles there and back and the car showed I still had a range of 191 miles. I also did about 45 miles this morning and it is still showing 166 miles range so I reckon on a longer journey I am getting somewhere in the mid thirties which isn't bad. My car only has one trip for mpg which I don't want to reset, otherwise I could have got a more accurate figure My last couple of BMWs had two, one was for trips which reset after the car was shut down for a period and the other had to be reset manually. I used that second for between fill ups as I’m not as interested in the long term average. The RR has three, but the trip memory resets as soon as the engine is switched off which is a bit annoying when you stop mid journey. The Golf has three as well, the trip one works as per BMW, the between fill ups resets automatically when you refuel and it has a long term as well. What a fascinating post! zzzzz.....zzzzzz.zzzzzzzzz  Well, to complete the oneupmanship, mine has 4 - ex-works, since last re-fuel, current journey, and individual. |
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