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Post by Martin on Jul 9, 2020 12:23:34 GMT
32mpg is still pretty impressive for something with the aerodynamics of a slippery house brick. I'm intrigued that the earth had shrunk on your return trip. Perhaps is is when it cools as the sun goes down..... I tried to be smart and use my local knowledge to cut across Middlewich but the road was closed!
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Post by Big Blue on Jul 9, 2020 12:55:37 GMT
Nice. The Gorilla wouldn't manage over 30mpg if I parked it with the engine off!
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Post by Martin on Jul 9, 2020 13:05:35 GMT
Nice. The Gorilla wouldn't manage over 30mpg if I parked it with the engine off! I'm really surprised at that given how economical the 750 was on longer journeys and the B5 isn't that much heavier.
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Post by Big Blue on Jul 9, 2020 13:24:42 GMT
Nice. The Gorilla wouldn't manage over 30mpg if I parked it with the engine off! I'm really surprised at that given how economical the 750 was on longer journeys and the B5 isn't that much heavier. I think the time gap between ECU development has a lot to do with it as opposed to anything else. I did manage 26mpg from Lake Coniston back to home a couple of years ago including some fast work on the M40.
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Post by michael on Jul 9, 2020 13:27:20 GMT
This is the difference between mainly doing short journeys and long motorway journeys. For me, anything starting with a 2 is a cause for celebration.
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Post by Martin on Jul 9, 2020 13:38:31 GMT
This is the difference between mainly doing short journeys and long motorway journeys. For me, anything starting with a 2 is a cause for celebration. The worst journey on the app is 5.0mpg, but that did include testing the remote climate (hot day end of June) and only driving 0.8 miles to visit the local nursery...it did 12.5mpg on the way back. I've done a few short (13-16 mile) single journeys and they are showing between 26 and 32mpg. They are all OBC figures though, I'm not sure how accurate that is yet
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 9, 2020 13:56:24 GMT
I remember being in my boss's P38 Range Rover and we traveled the 106 miles from Leeds City Centre to Newcastle on less than 1 gallon of fuel - an mpg in the region of 120mpg!
Boy was he glad he had AA Recovery!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 14:17:06 GMT
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Post by Tim on Jul 9, 2020 14:28:21 GMT
Martin, is the Range Rover still effectively running in, I used to reckon on at least 10k miles for a diesel to be fully free.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 9, 2020 14:35:28 GMT
The long term running total in the Audi is currently sitting at 58.9 MPG, over the past 800 miles or so. This is mostly dotting about locally on lockdown shopping runs, with a return journey to south Wiltshire last weekend. A motorway run, if I keep below 85, will always return a figure in the low 60s.
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Post by Martin on Jul 9, 2020 14:48:00 GMT
Martin, is the Range Rover still effectively running in, I used to reckon on at least 10k miles for a diesel to be fully free. I hand't thought about it, but it's a good question, the 535d felt better and was slightly more economical when it was past 10k (more around 15k iirc). The RR has passed 11,000 miles now so I guess it won't improve much further other than due to it shaking off being sat around for 5 months. edit: Just looked at the fuel records for the 535d and you can see a difference from about 13,000 miles, only a couple of mpg, but it's noticable. It's easier to spot when you do very similar journeys every week as I did then (and still do).
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Post by Martin on Jul 11, 2020 18:00:02 GMT
I drove to the mother in law's house yesterday and the car (told me it) did 32 mpg. Not too bad as I mostly avoided the motorway and went on the A4 instead. So you were wrong then....
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 11, 2020 18:02:30 GMT
I drove to the mother in law's house yesterday and the car (told me it) did 32 mpg. Not too bad as I mostly avoided the motorway and went on the A4 instead. Driving to the mother in law's house: slowly dawdling along = 32 mpg. Driving away from mother in law's house: speeding along in Dynamic sport mode = 22 mpg.
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 25, 2020 22:21:31 GMT
In this theme, today I managed to drive the 440i fully 700kms on a single tank of fuel. Just refuelled at our destination with remaining range showing as 50kms and got 55 litres into a 60 litre tank.
Not bad in my view. Roughly 35mpg punting along at 80-90mph.
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Post by Martin on Aug 24, 2020 20:07:49 GMT
Averaged 34.6mpg over 135 miles today, fully loaded with all 5 of us and a boot full of luggage and that includes 30 miles of A road to the M1 (sub 30mpg) and lots of stopping traffic lights on the way into Brighton. It was close to 40mpg on the M25 when the traffic was flowing at 65-75 mph. I wonder if it’s better than normal because the tyres are pumped up?
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 24, 2020 20:23:39 GMT
That's amazing, and yes, I bet its down to the low rolling resistance.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 1, 2020 16:54:59 GMT
Interesting. I was chatting today to a colleague who also has an Italian wife and drove down to Italy in July.
As he bought a Tesla 3 at the start of the year, I was intrigued to hear what his trip was like. Apparently it will do "about 400 miles on a charge if you don't hoof it". And I further quote "takes 15 mins to charge on supercharger (150kw) and there was a 250kw in Switzerland which took just 10 mins for 90% charge".
Which is considerably better than the experience of our other Tesla-owning friends who drove to Italy in their 67-plate Model X 75D, which apparently goes no further than 250 miles and takes over an hour to charge.
That's three year's progress in electric car tech I guess.
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Post by michael on Sept 1, 2020 19:41:56 GMT
Interesting. I was chatting today to a colleague who also has an Italian wife and drove down to Italy in July. As he bought a Tesla 3 at the start of the year, I was intrigued to hear what his trip was like. Apparently it will do " about 400 miles on a charge if you don't hoof it". And I further quote " takes 15 mins to charge on supercharger (150kw) and there was a 250kw in Switzerland which took just 10 mins for 90% charge". Which is considerably better than the experience of our other Tesla-owning friends who drove to Italy in their 67-plate Model X 75D, which apparently goes no further than 250 miles and takes over an hour to charge. That's three year's progress in electric car tech I guess. That’s impressive. Tesla do seem miles ahead - I just wish the tech was in a car I wanted. I don’t work out my fuel consumption but I filled up on Friday, drove to the Lake District and back on Sunday with the kayaks on the roof and today it needs filling again. I’d be surprised if the MPG started with a 2.
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 2, 2020 6:46:30 GMT
That’s impressive. Tesla do seem miles ahead - I just wish the tech was in a car I wanted. I wish that the tech was in a car I wanted and could afford. Make the range 500 miles and it would be even more tempting
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Post by garry on Sept 2, 2020 7:07:56 GMT
The Porsche has the broadest mpg ‘range’ of any car I’ve owned, Drive it like it should be driven and I see high teens mpg, sit on a motorway at 70 ish and I can get 40mpg.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 2, 2020 7:23:54 GMT
That’s impressive. Tesla do seem miles ahead - I just wish the tech was in a car I wanted. I wish that the tech was in a car I wanted and could afford. Make the range 500 miles and it would be even more tempting Why would 500 miles be more tempting than 400? I can think of only one time in my life where I’ve driven over 400 miles without stopping.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 2, 2020 8:26:55 GMT
Agreed. As noted above, on the motorway, my car has a range of about 450 miles which is pretty decent. However, neither I nor my wife has a bladder with a range of 450 miles, so we end up stopping anyway. Plus they say you should stop and take a break every two hours or so.
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Post by Martin on Sept 2, 2020 8:41:00 GMT
A motorway (at 75-80) range of just over 400 miles would work for me as well, as they would cover the majority of my journeys and mean I could charge at home rather than risk the charging network. I don’t like having to stop and fill up with fuel, so super fast charging would be a pain and if I had to wait to a charger I wouldn’t be happy.....
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Post by LandieMark on Sept 2, 2020 10:39:28 GMT
Interesting. I was chatting today to a colleague who also has an Italian wife and drove down to Italy in July. As he bought a Tesla 3 at the start of the year, I was intrigued to hear what his trip was like. Apparently it will do " about 400 miles on a charge if you don't hoof it". And I further quote " takes 15 mins to charge on supercharger (150kw) and there was a 250kw in Switzerland which took just 10 mins for 90% charge". Which is considerably better than the experience of our other Tesla-owning friends who drove to Italy in their 67-plate Model X 75D, which apparently goes no further than 250 miles and takes over an hour to charge. That's three year's progress in electric car tech I guess. That’s impressive. Tesla do seem miles ahead - I just wish the tech was in a car I wanted. I don’t work out my fuel consumption but I filled up on Friday, drove to the Lake District and back on Sunday with the kayaks on the roof and today it needs filling again. I’d be surprised if the MPG started with a 2. Not quite true though. You need the expensive version to get 375 miles per charge and the 15 minute charge gives you 175 miles. A acquaintance of mine was telling me that his leaf could do just as many miles as my Defender and only needed 10 minutes to charge. Its actually 90 minutes for a full charge. It seems to me that electric car buyers are being a little economical with the truth of the range and charge capabilities.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 2, 2020 10:47:05 GMT
I can only relay what I was told. I assume he has the expensive dual-motor version. He's one of our renewable energy specialists, so makes sense that he drives an electric car!
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Post by johnc on Sept 2, 2020 10:53:37 GMT
I'll do a real life I-Pace update in a few weeks.
We have a couple of longer journeys to do next week and the week after which will require charging at a public charging point.
Having read everything I can about all the different charging companies and types of charger, my head is now a mess - someone should have legislated some standardisation into the non Tesla recharging network. However it does appear as though the more modern chargers are much more sensible with "pay at the pump" technology. The lack of rapid chargers though could present a problem. Plugging into a 7Kw/h charger when you are nearly out of juice and have a 90kWh battery to charge is going to cost more in coffees, cake and sandwiches than jumping in a taxi. 50kWh chargers can give the I-Pace nearly 80% charge in under an hour so I will be searching those out.
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Post by Tim on Sept 2, 2020 11:09:14 GMT
The range of electric cars still appears to be hugely influenced by speed so while Tesla 3 guy might genuinely get 400 miles is he doing that at 70-80mph?
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