Dilemma

PS where's Dan when you need him? Surely a GTS vs GT4 debate is not complete without the man who has had both...

That Boxster is Gorgeous and well specced. Will a car supermarket come close on cost to change as the main dealer?

I like that leather! Certainly don't hate it anyway. And those pics make me prefer the gold more - it just needs to be at least a GTS 4.0 to carry them off. 

Colours are 100% a personal thing aren't they? From time to time before I stopped looking at it because so many plebes were on there (the sort of people that chip a car and don't think you should tell the insurer), people would come into the Quadrifoglio FB group and ask "what's the best colour"? Best for what, you total dick? If you like the colour, buy the car! And they are not talking about resale value, they are not that sophisticated.

Then again with the Quads there are not any bad ones. Porsches I can accept in almost any exterior colour, but some of the interiors are "interesting" - the vomit yellow and also the sort of burgundy red full leather interiors definitely lower the value.

But if the people that owned it, liked it, who cares eh!

I don't think its quite paedo grey, more of a dirty ivory colour, but I don't like pale leather anyway.

Not particularly keen on Boxsters either mind

Whatever the colour is or what they call it, it’s far nicer then boring black.

Pics now up:

finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsche-718-cayman-gts-40-my23-preowned-PX5OPR?model=718&dealership=1500006661&order=newest

No, the thread heading still holds.

And the OPC hasn’t rung me back. Left a message yesterday.

The difficulty with that Cayman is that it is 200 miles away and finding time to go there is very difficult.

Plus, earlier today, I happened to be passing West London Porsche on my way back from Heathrow, so I stopped in and had a nosy around a 718 Boxster, a 718 Cayman and several "current" 911s (in fact they were a mix of the just superseded model and the very latest one (which is slightly uglier at the back).

A 718 has surprising amounts of luggage space - the frunk looks a little bigger (or wider) than that of the latest 911, and there is a useful amount in the tail, but nothing compared to the rear shelf and rear seat space of a 911.

It doesn't have much cabin space though - very little oddments space whatsoever - 911 much better in that regard although the various cubbies are still pretty slim pickings.

Moreover, the cabin ambience of the 911 feels modern and on par with my Macan (not necessarily more so) but that of the 718 doesn't - the media screen is comically small and low by current standards and it all feels a bit old inside.

Other observations - the 718 is very low in terms of getting in and out - felt more so than the 911 - and on the Boxster version, the A-pillar felt curiously short. I'm not particularly tall but unless you set the seat lower than I like, it all felt a bit like you'd have your head stuck up in the slipstream.

So that's thrown the cat back among the pigeons. I'm not sure I really want just two seats and as a car, rather than as a driving experience, the 911 definitely appeals more.

But by the looks of things, I can't afford much 992 so it would have to be a tidy late 991. Or something else.

I am feeling the want but poking around one today did ram home that they really are quite small and impractical. 

991/992 wins no prizes in that regard but is nevertheless more accommodating.

I am also aware that one of the Macan's fortes is being an extremely comfortable car (one area where it hands down beats my last car). It occurs to me that a "standard" 911 (ie not a GTS or T etc) might be rather better than a 718 in this regard.

But I need to try both. The only 911 I've ever driven before was a 996 4S which was wonderfully responsive but from memory had a pretty firm ride.

A 911 is the perfect everyday car. I had a manual 997 as my daily for nearly 4 years so a 992 would be easy. Unless you get the special ones like the GT3, I doubt a 992 would be exciting enough as a Sunday morning blaster but makes a far better daily fun car.

My take from that was that the 991.2 is clearly the best choice. It certainly is in looks.

I’m not sure. I like the 992 styling and was never totally sure about the 991. The only thing on the 992 that clearly isn’t an improvement are the silly door handles.

The latest 992.2 is definitely uglier at the back. I saw both generations of 992 side by side in the dealership and so could compare.

Whether you decide to swap or not, that's an exciting few hours, enjoy! Looking forward to reading about it.