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Post by clunes on Aug 5, 2024 10:51:32 GMT
What do you estimate your yearly mileage would be in this car? If it's going to be used as an occasional car then the average yearly mileage will soon drop even further (it's less than 9k/year as it is so not exactly heavily used) so I'd expect it to have many years left - especially if it's been well serviced/cared for.
62k isn't high in todays world and I've heard broadly good things about the B58. I think it is pretty under stressed from factory (evidenced by the fact that BMW themselves offer a performance upgrade - which this has - that maintains the warranty). At that age there will be more wear and tear and higher chance of rubber perishing etc but if every other box was ticked then I think it looks fantastic.
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Post by alf on Aug 5, 2024 10:54:26 GMT
That one is a brilliant spec, and very few come up with the BMW power upgrade (which avoids insurance and warranty hassles of aftermarket chipping).
The mileage might be annoying as an number, but objectively its no problem at all. If you are going to keep for a time, and not do bif mileage yourself, it will average back down - but I would not worry about it.
I love the light leather, except on the lower dash - that bit I'd rather they kept black, the doors and all the rest are lovely.
It's all the power you're ever likely to need for the road, I think 3 litres/350-400 bhp is probably ideal... if I had got one of the the later 380bhp XE S I was interested to see if it was more useable than the XFR, which - like the QF - doesn;t see you trouble full throttle very often! It feels safer at higher speeds, ironically, meaning you risk losing your license if stopped after even a very short stab of "full beans".....
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Post by PG on Aug 5, 2024 11:58:53 GMT
That does look an all-in fully FG spec. And it does look understated with the blue paint, sensible wheels, pale interior. I think if you want this model and you don't go for this one, you'll be forever looking for another one with the same spec. You just have to be able to look through the fact that it's currently owned by an arriviste chav with no taste, who hopefully won't ave done too much damage to it in the months of his ownership.
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Post by bryan on Aug 7, 2024 6:37:17 GMT
The mileage is a concern, only from a view that I want to use it as our long distance car ie road trips, visiting folks in Canterbury, holidays etc and intended to keep very long term but will I find one of a similar spec with lower miles? In my head lower miles means it will last longer. That said the 18k one at the main dealer looked very unloved in pictures....
Ownership wise he is the 5th owner but earlier life isn't bad, 1st just under 3 years, next for almost 2. Then one for 3 months (probate? Or really didn't like it), then someone for a 18 months, and him from December. All servicing seems to be at the same BMW dealer
He is trying to sell prior to his new M2 arriving, I wonder what the dealership offered him? Motorway has it at £17.5k
The balance of warranty is a definite plus, but the next service in December c 65k will be a big one (brakes?)
There is outstanding finance on the car, how does that work buying privately?
I'm going to go and have a look if I can combine with a work trip to London
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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 7, 2024 8:11:28 GMT
The mileage is a concern, only from a view that I want to use it as our long distance car ie road trips, visiting folks in Canterbury, holidays etc and intended to keep very long term but will I find one of a similar spec with lower miles? In my head lower miles means it will last longer. That said the 18k one at the main dealer looked very unloved in pictures.... Ownership wise he is the 5th owner but earlier life isn't bad, 1st just under 3 years, next for almost 2. Then one for 3 months (probate? Or really didn't like it), then someone for a 18 months, and him from December. All servicing seems to be at the same BMW dealer He is trying to sell prior to his new M2 arriving, I wonder what the dealership offered him? Motorway has it at £17.5k The balance of warranty is a definite plus, but the next service in December c 65k will be a big one (brakes?) There is outstanding finance on the car, how does that work buying privately? I'm going to go and have a look if I can combine with a work trip to London I bought a car privately recently. I got the seller to phone the finance company whilst I was there and I made the payment to settle the finance and any balance left over I transferred to the seller. Very easy if both parties are sensible. When is his car arriving as closer to delivery the prospect to to negotiate will become a lot stronger. If Motorway are offering £17.5 the P/X offer would have been around that figure.
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Post by Martin on Aug 7, 2024 10:06:10 GMT
The mileage is a concern, only from a view that I want to use it as our long distance car ie road trips, visiting folks in Canterbury, holidays etc and intended to keep very long term but will I find one of a similar spec with lower miles? In my head lower miles means it will last longer. That said the 18k one at the main dealer looked very unloved in pictures.... Ownership wise he is the 5th owner but earlier life isn't bad, 1st just under 3 years, next for almost 2. Then one for 3 months (probate? Or really didn't like it), then someone for a 18 months, and him from December. All servicing seems to be at the same BMW dealer He is trying to sell prior to his new M2 arriving, I wonder what the dealership offered him? Motorway has it at £17.5k The balance of warranty is a definite plus, but the next service in December c 65k will be a big one (brakes?) There is outstanding finance on the car, how does that work buying privately? I'm going to go and have a look if I can combine with a work trip to London I bought a car privately recently. I got the seller to phone the finance company whilst I was there and I made the payment to settle the finance and any balance left over I transferred to the seller. Very easy if both parties are sensible. When is his car arriving as closer to delivery the prospect to to negotiate will become a lot stronger. If Motorway are offering £17.5 the P/X offer would have been around that figure. What did you buy Ed, have I missed something?
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Post by bryan on Aug 7, 2024 11:45:14 GMT
The mileage is a concern, only from a view that I want to use it as our long distance car ie road trips, visiting folks in Canterbury, holidays etc and intended to keep very long term but will I find one of a similar spec with lower miles? In my head lower miles means it will last longer. That said the 18k one at the main dealer looked very unloved in pictures.... Ownership wise he is the 5th owner but earlier life isn't bad, 1st just under 3 years, next for almost 2. Then one for 3 months (probate? Or really didn't like it), then someone for a 18 months, and him from December. All servicing seems to be at the same BMW dealer He is trying to sell prior to his new M2 arriving, I wonder what the dealership offered him? Motorway has it at £17.5k The balance of warranty is a definite plus, but the next service in December c 65k will be a big one (brakes?) There is outstanding finance on the car, how does that work buying privately? I'm going to go and have a look if I can combine with a work trip to London I bought a car privately recently. I got the seller to phone the finance company whilst I was there and I made the payment to settle the finance and any balance left over I transferred to the seller. Very easy if both parties are sensible. When is his car arriving as closer to delivery the prospect to to negotiate will become a lot stronger. If Motorway are offering £17.5 the P/X offer would have been around that figure. Thanks Ed, am I able to find out the settlement figure from the lender )NIIB I think the car check said, or is that something only he can do?
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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 7, 2024 13:47:06 GMT
I bought a car privately recently. I got the seller to phone the finance company whilst I was there and I made the payment to settle the finance and any balance left over I transferred to the seller. Very easy if both parties are sensible. When is his car arriving as closer to delivery the prospect to to negotiate will become a lot stronger. If Motorway are offering £17.5 the P/X offer would have been around that figure. Thanks Ed, am I able to find out the settlement figure from the lender )NIIB I think the car check said, or is that something only he can do? He should have a settlement letter already but you won't be able to get the figure yourself only with the owner present I think. Who is the lender?
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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 7, 2024 13:47:39 GMT
I bought a car privately recently. I got the seller to phone the finance company whilst I was there and I made the payment to settle the finance and any balance left over I transferred to the seller. Very easy if both parties are sensible. When is his car arriving as closer to delivery the prospect to to negotiate will become a lot stronger. If Motorway are offering £17.5 the P/X offer would have been around that figure. What did you buy Ed, have I missed something? I have been a little slack getting that info over haven't I.
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Post by bryan on Aug 7, 2024 14:38:36 GMT
What did you buy Ed, have I missed something? I have been a little slack getting that info over haven't I. You have been very slack!!😂 The finance company is NIIB group, based in Northern Ireland - I thought it would be BMW Chap offered what you suggested of clearing finance when both on the phone together if I go ahead/like it
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Post by bryan on Aug 18, 2024 12:29:19 GMT
The videos work. You will have a job to beat this. Get it bought on the condition that the number plates go in the bin. Are these plates more acceptable James?
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 18, 2024 18:34:33 GMT
The videos work. You will have a job to beat this. Get it bought on the condition that the number plates go in the bin. Are these plates more acceptable James? Spot on.
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Post by johnc on Aug 19, 2024 11:17:03 GMT
Congratulations on the new addition to your fleet Bryan. That makes it 2 additions to the forum in less than 3 weeks, both of which are BMWs and both in Tanzanite Blue!
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Post by bryan on Aug 19, 2024 12:43:45 GMT
Congratulations on the new addition to your fleet Bryan. That makes it 2 additions to the forum in less than 3 weeks, both of which are BMWs and both in Tanzanite Blue! Thank you in advance but not quite yet John, RAC are undertaking an inspection tomorrow and subject to that I hope to conclude the deal on Saturday Who's bought the other one? Anyone fancy an S4?
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Post by alf on Aug 19, 2024 14:14:28 GMT
Good stuff! Assuming the inspection is good, it will be interesting to see what you think of it!
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Post by Martin on Aug 19, 2024 15:44:02 GMT
Hopefully it lives up to expectations. Is it just me that thinks BMW convertible and TOJ in the plate isn’t a good combination?
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Post by johnc on Aug 19, 2024 15:55:34 GMT
Congratulations on the new addition to your fleet Bryan. That makes it 2 additions to the forum in less than 3 weeks, both of which are BMWs and both in Tanzanite Blue! Who's bought the other one? We did! The i-Pace has been replaced with an i4 M50 in Tanzanite with cream leather.
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Post by bryan on Aug 19, 2024 16:12:17 GMT
Good stuff! Assuming the inspection is good, it will be interesting to see what you think of it! I've not actually driven it (didn't have time last Sunday - mega 470mile 11hr road trip from Derbyshire round the M25 to Croydon to see the car, then to Canterbury to collect Mrs M who had accompanied her folks back home post and unplanned pacemaker whilst watching the cricket in Worcester). The Yeti is supremely comfortable,no numb bum! Did it easily on one tank of fuel (45mpg) and when not in road works was driven in an unYeti like manner in the outside lane, go 1.2tsi dsg! I've driven others and liked them, so only concern is the exhaust being too loud. The RAC does a 10mile road test as part of the inspection
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Post by bryan on Aug 19, 2024 16:13:03 GMT
Who's bought the other one? We did! The i-Pace has been replaced with an i4 M50 in Tanzanite with cream leather. Of course you did! How's it going? Still missing the iPace?
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Post by bryan on Aug 19, 2024 16:14:19 GMT
Hopefully it lives up to expectations. Is it just me that thinks BMW convertible and TOJ in the plate isn’t a good combination? Fingers crossed 🤞, it will most likely get the plate from the Audi when that sells, TOJ to BAD😂
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Post by cbeaks1 on Aug 19, 2024 17:47:45 GMT
Congratulations on the new addition to your fleet Bryan. That makes it 2 additions to the forum in less than 3 weeks, both of which are BMWs and both in Tanzanite Blue! I have also bought a new car in the last week as our company cars are going. Carbonised Grey Mustang Mach-E Extended Range AWD.
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Post by bryan on Aug 19, 2024 19:26:07 GMT
Shame it's not the V8 Mustang, how are you finding it?
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Post by johnc on Aug 20, 2024 8:30:24 GMT
We did! The i-Pace has been replaced with an i4 M50 in Tanzanite with cream leather. Of course you did! How's it going? Still missing the iPace? The BMW is difficult to drive smoothly which is worse for passengers than it is for the driver. The regeneration on lift off is either pretty non existent or is similar to a fairly serious jump on the brakes. I haven't driven it much but Susan says she can't get the balance right and I can only agree. I am sure there will be a setting somewhere that will improve matters. I think it probably does better in the ride department than the Jag which was a high bar to reach but it doesn't feel as well planted when pushing on which is odd given that it is a lower car. Don't get me wrong, it corners extremely well but the Jag just gave you the feeling that you were in complete control and it would tell you what it was doing, whereas the BMW isn't quite as good in that department leaving you slightly less sure what is happening closer to the limits. The tech all works well and the boot is surprisingly accommodating although a bit shallow towards the back. We are off to San Francisco first thing Thursday morning and did a test fit of 3 large cases and 3 carry on bags and they all fitted with part of the rear seat folded down. That was about the same as the i-Pace. On range, we reckon it's about 20% better than the i-Pace but we have still to do a decent motorway run to see what happens as the speed increases. We fly from Edinburgh so that will give us a better idea of motorway consumption. I don't think we will ever have the same affection for it as we did the i-Pace. The i4 is just a car!
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Post by PG on Aug 20, 2024 8:57:25 GMT
It wasn't just me then that winced slightly at the "TOJ" number plate 😀
Hope the RAC inspection goes well.
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Post by bryan on Aug 20, 2024 10:32:58 GMT
It happened this morning at 0900, I'm just waiting for the call and report back from the RAC
Yes TOJ will be swapped out at some point!
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Post by bryan on Aug 20, 2024 14:36:00 GMT
Report is in, some thinking to do
Overall Bill the nice RAC man said it was in lovely condition, drove well, with no underside damage, everything works, engine looks well maintained etc. All of which is a bonus for one of these
Issues he spotted on inspection - brake discs at/near end of life that's a £1300 job at the dealer - 4 parking dings on near side including 1 3inch crease on nsr quarter. I can't see on video or in person. Think one of those things - the bonnet/bumper/front wings and driver side door/quarter have all been painted, albeit to a good standard. He couldn't see any evidence of accident damage under the bonnet/underneath. So could be dealer prepping for sale he thinks but seems like a lot of panels
Hmmm
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Post by alf on Aug 20, 2024 15:04:57 GMT
Yes, slight hmm.... Brakes and their inflated prices now are part of driving, as are little dings - if you get it perfect some nice person will help out by replacing the little dings again for free anyway.
That's a lot of painting. The Boxster's nose has apparently been done (I couldn't tell) but on mollycoddled second cars thats not unusual to cover stone chips. Here, that's a lot of panels. The AA man would have instantly seen if there were loads of new bits under there suggesting a big accident. It's either been some time since it happened, or something bad happened cosmetically across a large part of the car without huge crash damage. I think at this age/price/mileage I'd be inclined to not worry if the paint is good quality - OEM paint often isn't anyway (especially BMW, who love an orange peel effect for some reason).
When I had a car park scrape repaired on the first XFR the guy pointed out the whole rear corner had been done right up to the roof and was a slightly different colour if you looked really carefully. I never noticed, and that was the most reliable car I've had...
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Post by bryan on Aug 20, 2024 18:01:43 GMT
Yes, slight hmm.... Brakes and their inflated prices now are part of driving, as are little dings - if you get it perfect some nice person will help out by replacing the little dings again for free anyway. That's a lot of painting. The Boxster's nose has apparently been done (I couldn't tell) but on mollycoddled second cars thats not unusual to cover stone chips. Here, that's a lot of panels. The AA man would have instantly seen if there were loads of new bits under there suggesting a big accident. It's either been some time since it happened, or something bad happened cosmetically across a large part of the car without huge crash damage. I think at this age/price/mileage I'd be inclined to not worry if the paint is good quality - OEM paint often isn't anyway (especially BMW, who love an orange peel effect for some reason). When I had a car park scrape repaired on the first XFR the guy pointed out the whole rear corner had been done right up to the roof and was a slightly different colour if you looked really carefully. I never noticed, and that was the most reliable car I've had... It isn't flagging on a HPI check and the mechanic couldn't spot any accident damage - and I'm guessing if it was unreported then they would be unlikely to put Adaptive LEDs back in the front end - I'm guessing either a lot of chips or potentially keyed in the past. But it isn't a deal killer on it's own - seeing if we can agree on a figure prior to him going away next week
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Post by PG on Aug 20, 2024 18:44:33 GMT
.....- the bonnet/bumper/front wings and driver side door/quarter have all been painted, albeit to a good standard. He couldn't see any evidence of accident damage under the bonnet/underneath. So could be dealer prepping for sale he thinks but seems like a lot of panels Hmmm When our Shogun got sideswiped by a lorry at the livestock market, it had to have a new bumper, grille, wing and the bonnet had to be resprayed too as it was scratched. It did need a new front panel too, but I don't reckon you could tell that from looking at it. That was a 5 mph impact! So either it's been keyed / damaged at some point, or maybe had a small knock and the owner decided to repair it outside insurance for whatever reason. Maybe one voodoo light was cheaper than two new lights to replace both? If it has been well done and well repainted and the RAC guy is happy, I don't think it's an issue. It might only be an issue of you decide to sell sooner than you plan and somebody else also has it pointed out to them and they get scared by that. For example, when I sold my XFR, the buyer got quite upset that (according to him) he could tell it had been painted at one side. I'd never seen it and the dealer never pointed it out when I bought it, so I had no idea. So probably another similar episode to what your potential BMW has been through. Guy still bought the XFR.
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Post by bryan on Aug 21, 2024 14:36:34 GMT
We've come to an arrangement over the brakes, so all being well I'm picking up on Saturday
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