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Post by LandieMark on Jan 18, 2024 18:51:13 GMT
Don't forget that this is a 12 year old car and a belt tensioner failure could happen to any vehicle.
Saying that, I don't think I would want to run it as the only vehicle in the household, but it is the go to daily driver as it is just such a nice thing to drive about in.
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Post by LandieMark on Jan 21, 2024 20:26:13 GMT
Just had the bill through - £400 or thereabouts and I've paid him immediately. Cant complain at that at all. Will definitely use again.
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Post by bryan on Jan 22, 2024 5:48:53 GMT
That's not too bad, I was anticipating much more based on the damage
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Post by Alex on Jan 22, 2024 6:15:13 GMT
Just had the bill through - £400 or thereabouts and I've paid him immediately. Cant complain at that at all. Will definitely use again. For a supposed money pit that isn't bad at all really and you're right that as a 12 year old vehicle there's always the chance of bills for maintenance. A 12 year old X5 or ML would be no different in that respect. |
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Post by Martin on Jan 22, 2024 7:03:44 GMT
£400 is a lot less than I was expecting. Not much more than half the cost of a std service on a new one.
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Post by bryan on Jan 22, 2024 7:32:14 GMT
I think with older cars the depreciation saving is offset by increased maintenance. I have a soft spot for the L322 generation RR
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Post by Martin on Jan 22, 2024 7:56:47 GMT
Yes, it gets to a point where the value is in the condition (plus future risk) and nothing to do with age. So spending money keeping one right is well worth doing and maintains value whereas on a newer car, you spend money fixing something and it doesn’t make any difference.
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Post by PG on Jan 22, 2024 12:42:47 GMT
And watching several YouTube videos, it seems with L322's that on buying one you need to be prepared to invest quite a lot to get all the jobs done that the prior owners probably avoided in some osrt of false economy attempt. Then you've got a real good-un.
So I'd view any expenditure in the first 12 months [or extend as appropriate...] as just the previous owners' faults and blame them and not the car!
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Post by LandieMark on Jan 22, 2024 12:49:18 GMT
Indeed - next on the list is a gearbox service as it hasn't had one according to the records. They are allegedly sealed for life which we all know is bollocks. Having less than 90k on and never having towed, I will wait until the summer to get that sorted along with its main service.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 22, 2024 14:29:01 GMT
I should add that I am not criticising choice of vehicle. I'd love to have an old Range Rover classic as a toy. Just observing that the remarkable success of the Range Rover brand has been achieved notwithstanding a reliability record that would have murdered most other car brands.
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Post by bryan on Feb 26, 2024 6:29:48 GMT
How's it running? I had a decent 40min test drive in one of these on Friday, a 4.4td vogue se
What a car, effortless performance, very comfy and seemed very compact for a big car. I was threading it through narrow gaps far more comfortably the Evoque. I think it is all the glass.
It is definitely on the list and unlike the RR classic I tried felt much better put together for daily use.
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Post by LandieMark on Feb 26, 2024 7:15:12 GMT
Very well thanks. We went to the lakes in the caravan at the beginning of February and towing was effortless.
You feel the mass of the car through the corners but they build speed incredibly quickly for such a heavy thing. They are best at just wafting about.
As you say, they are easy to place on the road as you can see all the corners and the visibility through the huge amount of glass is superb.
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Post by LandieMark on Mar 19, 2024 17:17:27 GMT
The windscreen trims at the side have been bothering me ever since Autoglass replaced the screen shortly after we bought it.
In windy conditions and over 60mph, the trims rattled something awful.
I bought a load of new trim clips (the rear ones are sacrificed on removal) and some VHB tape. The centre two front clips on each side that had been reused were all mashed up, so no wonder the trims kept lifting and rattling.
New clips and the tape should be belt and braces and I'll see how it is tomorrow. Hopefully silence is resumed.
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Post by johnc on Mar 19, 2024 17:55:07 GMT
The windscreen trims at the side have been bothering me ever since Autoglass replaced the screen shortly after we bought it. In windy conditions and over 60mph, the trims rattled something awful. I bought a load of new trim clips (the rear ones are sacrificed on removal) and some VHB tape. The centre two front clips on each side that had been reused were all mashed up, so no wonder the trims kept lifting and rattling. New clips and the tape should be belt and braces and I'll see how it is tomorrow. Hopefully silence is resumed. A guy I speak to who parks his car beside the office lost both of the trims on his RR on the motorway shortly after he had a windscreen replaced. It's just another short cut by people who should know better. |
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Post by LandieMark on Mar 19, 2024 18:10:57 GMT
The irritating thing is, they provided new trim as part of the replacement. They must have provided new rear clips then reused the old front clips.
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Post by LandieMark on May 2, 2024 15:05:21 GMT
The Range Rover clearly likes it's home as it has started marking it's territory with 5W30.
Having removed the cabin intake plenum to gain visual access to the rear of the engine, it appears from investigation with my endoscope that the oil cooler is the culprit.
I've ordered both gaskets for the cooler and the O rings for the turbo oil feed and coolant pipe. It's due a service in 3 months, but I don't want to leave it that long to fix the leak.
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Post by johnc on May 2, 2024 16:27:15 GMT
Didn't take you long to get your hands oily again. The danger is you find half a dozen other things under there that you want to fix/replace/improve!
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Post by Tim on May 3, 2024 7:52:21 GMT
Only half a dozen?  |
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Post by LandieMark on May 7, 2024 16:41:15 GMT
It looks scarier than it actually is. The thermostat bleed pipe snapped off removing the intake donut, so I've had to order one before I can put it all back together and start it. The gaskets in the oil cooler were hard and flat - someone had been there before as there was silicone all over the top gasket. It was the lower gasket that was actually leaking. The turbo oil feed was oily so changed the O rings on that pipe too.  |
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Post by johnc on May 7, 2024 17:57:19 GMT
Living the dream indeed. I'd have taken so many photos from different angles if I ever had to delve in there. Not exactly a simple layout!
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Post by Martin on May 7, 2024 18:01:42 GMT
I wouldn’t have a clue where to start! Not the neatest looking engine bay….assume it looked more like this before you started?  |
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Post by LandieMark on May 7, 2024 18:44:16 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on May 7, 2024 19:41:41 GMT
Living the dream indeed. I'd have taken so many photos from different angles if I ever had to delve in there. Not exactly a simple layout! There wasn't a huge amount of things to disconnect, thankfully. Most of the "mess" is hidden under the intake. |
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Post by LandieMark on May 8, 2024 18:34:18 GMT
All sorted. Local specialist obtained the top coolant pipe for me next day. Small drama when a stupid clip on pipe popped off as I hadn't clipped it on properly.
Low coolant message got the bum twitching. Managed to reattach it properly without removing everything, thankfully. Test drive and all well.
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Post by LandieMark on May 12, 2024 19:39:55 GMT
Took the Range Rover down to Yorkshire today and it didn't miss a beat.
It's currently on some Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow tyres which have been fine until now - they came with the wheels I bought. They feel awful now the weather has warmed and they vibrate at motorway speeds in these temperatures. The date code is 4011 which explains a lot.
It's going to get a new set of Pirellis - probably the Scorpion all season SF2 - Harry Metcalf has just fitted a set to his L322. Failing that a set of Scorpion Zeros.
We are off to Bamburgh on Tuesday with the caravan so I don't think I'll manage before I get away, but I will definitely get it done when we get back.
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Post by LandieMark on May 13, 2024 8:12:22 GMT
It's booked in at my local tyre place tomorrow morning for a set of the new Scorpion SF2s. £250 a corner. Ouch. The much older Scorpion Zeros were only £25 cheaper.
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Post by Martin on May 13, 2024 8:56:47 GMT
It's booked in at my local tyre place tomorrow morning for a set of the new Scorpion SF2s. £250 a corner. Ouch. The much older Scorpion Zeros were only £25 cheaper. Be interesting to hear what you think. I went from Scorpion Verde to Zero and through they were well worth the extra cost, but would probably have chosen the SF2 if it had been available. |
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Post by LandieMark on May 14, 2024 10:55:46 GMT
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Post by Martin on May 14, 2024 13:03:50 GMT
Looks much like a Michelin A/S tyre than the Verdes.
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Post by LandieMark on May 14, 2024 18:07:06 GMT
Initial impressions are a much better and quieter ride - much like a Range Rover should have which makes me happy. Steering precision has improved too. To be fair, anything is going to be better than 13 year old winter tyres.
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