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Post by johnc on Mar 25, 2022 9:18:19 GMT
Diesel at my local Shell station is 186.9p/litre and petrol 172.9p. The Esso station next to the office is 181.9p for diesel and 163.9p for petrol.
I presume these variations reflect when they last got a delivery. If not, it will be Esso!
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 25, 2022 9:28:16 GMT
Our local Esso either hasn't got the message or doesn't care. Price of fuel was unchanged as of last night - 166.9p for unleaded.
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Post by Tim on Mar 25, 2022 10:12:58 GMT
BMW Eco mode...things are bad, but not that bad! The OBC is pretty optimistic in my car, but even so, the 37.6 average I got keeping it under 75 going to Grays and back is just over 35mpg compared to an average since I bought it of 28.6mpg and c30mpg on a normal long run. I didn't use Eco mode.... For +20 miles it's really not worthwhile. I'll continue to use it for example when I'm cruising up to Aberdeen where the whole road north of Dundee is average speed cameras. Same for going in to work but only if I'm in a queue. At least you can switch it on and off with a simple button
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 25, 2022 11:36:59 GMT
I have driven up to Rochdale this morning. 60 MPH in the Staffordshire roadworks section of the M6 and about 75 the rest of the time. 47 MPG. Boat fuel is 172.9 up here, compared to 175.9 at Chipping Norton yesterday.
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 25, 2022 12:53:28 GMT
BMW Eco Mode?
Oh I definitely use it - eg if crawling in traffic, or in long stretches of average speed camera, and I pretty much always cross Switzerland entirely in Eco Mode. It makes the car more relaxing to drive if you are somewhere where the speed is restricted. Plus it does consume less fuel.
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Post by franki68 on Mar 25, 2022 13:09:23 GMT
All of my cars get the Super, but thankfully I my annual mileage isn't that high these days despite working in my company's Head Office 5 days per week. I do about 8,000 miles per annum across the 3 cars at an average of about 20 mpg. So 400 gallons per annum, or about 1850 litres per annum. So let's say it costs me an additional £1000 per annum now at the higher fuel prices. I will have to tighten my belt in other areas, but it won't make me consider selling any of my cars and replacing with something more economical. You know if you join PCGB you can get an Esso card which gives you 6 or 7 pence off per litre on their 99ron stuff ?
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Post by PG on Mar 25, 2022 16:29:00 GMT
The Eco mode in the Mini is so awful as to be almost dangerous if you leave it on all the time. You have to mash your foot into the floor to get any acceleration which must surely offset any benefit.
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Post by johnc on Mar 25, 2022 17:29:08 GMT
Needless to say my car doesn't have an Eco mode but the warmer weather is improving my mpg significantly.
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Post by rodge on Mar 25, 2022 19:07:48 GMT
I filled up for €104 2 weeks ago. The car is telling me I’m getting about 550 miles to a tank. Wondering why I bought one of the most economical cars I’ve owned at the same time my job is paying for my fuel.
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Post by Martin on Mar 25, 2022 19:15:32 GMT
I filled up for €104 2 weeks ago. The car is telling me I’m getting about 550 miles to a tank. Wondering why I bought one of the most economical cars I’ve owned at the same time my job is paying for my fuel. Are the BIK rules in Ireland different or are you only doing business miles? If my employer paid for my fuel, I’d have to pay another chunk of tax. I used to have a fully funded fuel card, but handed it back when the break even point was over 14k private miles a year and that was a long time ago.
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Post by Andy C on Mar 25, 2022 21:48:37 GMT
£181.9 for diesel on the A45 near Birmingham airport . I only put a fiver in.
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Post by rodge on Mar 26, 2022 7:58:41 GMT
I filled up for €104 2 weeks ago. The car is telling me I’m getting about 550 miles to a tank. Wondering why I bought one of the most economical cars I’ve owned at the same time my job is paying for my fuel. Are the BIK rules in Ireland different or are you only doing business miles? If my employer paid for my fuel, I’d have to pay another chunk of tax. I used to have a fully funded fuel card, but handed it back when the break even point was over 14k private miles a year and that was a long time ago. I’ll find out soon enough. Still trying to get my head around the system here. I was notified that there was a message in my online revenue account. Went to login and discovered that I don’t have access anymore as I hadn’t used it for a few years (had no tax returns to declare living outside the country). It takes weeks to get access again. They send a PIN number to your last registered address which could be my old house, and there doesn’t seem to be a way to update that. The reason I’m saying all that is I got paid yesterday and saw that I’m paying emergency tax (which will get reimbursed) but I don’t know what the bik will be. It will be cheaper than a tank of fuel so if I end up paying 40% of the price of a tank of fuel instead of the full amount, it’s got me in a better spot.
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Post by Martin on Mar 26, 2022 11:27:10 GMT
Are the BIK rules in Ireland different or are you only doing business miles? If my employer paid for my fuel, I’d have to pay another chunk of tax. I used to have a fully funded fuel card, but handed it back when the break even point was over 14k private miles a year and that was a long time ago. I’ll find out soon enough. Still trying to get my head around the system here. I was notified that there was a message in my online revenue account. Went to login and discovered that I don’t have access anymore as I hadn’t used it for a few years (had no tax returns to declare living outside the country). It takes weeks to get access again. They send a PIN number to your last registered address which could be my old house, and there doesn’t seem to be a way to update that. The reason I’m saying all that is I got paid yesterday and saw that I’m paying emergency tax (which will get reimbursed) but I don’t know what the bik will be. It will be cheaper than a tank of fuel so if I end up paying 40% of the price of a tank of fuel instead of the full amount, it’s got me in a better spot. It doesn’t work like that in the UK, it’s taxed as a benefit based in co2 and a fixed cost no matter the mileage / usage. I did a quick google search for free private fuel in Ireland, similar scheme to the UK and looks expensive. www.maneelymccann.ie/factsheets/employment-issues-tax/cars-for-employeesI don’t know the co2 of your car, but cost will be £3,000+ a year I think, you can work it out from the link above. The fuel scale charge is based on the same percentage used to calculate the car benefit. This is applied to a set figure which is £24,600 for 2021/22 (£24,500 for 2020/21). As with the car benefit, the fuel benefit chargeable to tax on the employee is used to compute the employer's liability to Class 1A. The combined effect of the charges makes the provision of free fuel a tax inefficient means of remuneration unless there is high private mileage.
The benefit is proportionately reduced if private fuel is not provided for part of the year. So taking action now to stop providing free fuel will have an immediate impact on the fuel benefit chargeable to tax and NICs.
Please note that if free fuel is provided later in the same tax year there will be a full year’s charge.
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Post by rodge on Mar 26, 2022 14:28:48 GMT
That’s interesting. I think my situation is different as I’m not driving a company car. I had a look and it seems like the fuel is bik so probably paying tax on it.
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Post by johnc on Mar 29, 2022 14:15:25 GMT
I went to get fuel last night but there was a tanker in and the station was closed. Diesel was 179.9p.
This morning I passed and after a delivery diesel is now 184.9p.
I though 5p/litre had been taken off fuel, not put on!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 14:23:22 GMT
Off duty, not profits, scumbag profiteering.
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 30, 2022 8:42:25 GMT
I picked up a tank of Momentum from the Tesco at Martlesham on my way back from Suffolk on Monday evening. 168.9p, which compares favourably with 165.9p for E10 around us in London.
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Post by johnc on Mar 30, 2022 9:28:46 GMT
V Power around my way is still 179.9p/litre. No change in price there.
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Post by Tim on Mar 30, 2022 9:55:16 GMT
I got Tesco Momentum at the weekend for under £1.70 Sadly it was just for the mowers
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Post by rodge on Apr 3, 2022 3:07:22 GMT
At the car rental place in SFO airport. Prepay fuel is over $8 a gallon. Bear in mind that I paid $1.99 a gallon a number of years ago in California for regular. I know rental companies charge more, but the last time I rented in CA back in November, pre paid fuel was around $5.00 I haven’t paid attention to any stations yet as I was too tired to even think about that.
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Post by Alex on Apr 3, 2022 21:29:47 GMT
It's starting to come down a bit. The local BP is now 1.60 for E10 and the Sainsbury's in Crawley was 1.55 and their forecourt was absolutely rammed as a result.
More concerning for me is that our cheap fixed deal with Shell Energy ended on Thursday and I'm now on the new bum-rape tariff just as we've had a cold snap! Makes me very grateful for the 8 solar panels on our roof.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Apr 7, 2022 10:39:59 GMT
Our local petrol station is resolutely clinging on to 180.9 a litre for the diesel it has bought at reducing prices. They will moan about not being used but they can fuck off at that price. It's owned by Morrisons.
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Post by Martin on Apr 7, 2022 11:22:09 GMT
I've experienced the life of an EV driver twice in the last week.....range anxiety and infrastructure issues! I planned to use my local Tesco on the way home on Friday evening, but they were out of diesel. Didn't use the car over the weekend, so planned to drop in there on my way to a local site on Monday morning, but it was still out of diesel and they had also run out of full fat petrol. Decided I'd have to pay the extra 9p a litre at BP, but they were out as were the next two garages (Shell), which by that time meant I had 15 miles range and the next nearest place was 7 miles away. Thankfully they had some, but I was annoyed at that point..... It was pay at pump only with a max of £99, so I stuck than on the credit card then another £35 on the debit card to fill it up properly. Then in the Golf yesterday, the first garage I went to was closed, as was the second and with a rapidly diminishing range and not wanting to divert too far off the A14 as I was pushed for time, I went to an Esso Garage on the edge of Cambridge. The basic petrol wasn't too badly priced, but I really try not to use it....as soon as I started filling up with the good stuff, I saw it was 185.9!! I kept going and the total cost was £98....to fill up a Golf!! Expensive times. I'm going to do c700 business miles this week, which will cost me £175 and I'll be claiming back £110
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 7, 2022 12:04:10 GMT
Both our local Tescos are out of diesel and have been all week I think. The nearest one to work (St. Rollox, for those who know it) only had 3 open diesel pumps, and not all the E5/E10 pumps were open either.
I asked one of the kiosk monkeys if he knew what was happening, and his sidekick piped up to blame the "eco warriors gluing their hands to the road"! No idea how true or not that may be, or if he was trying to be funny - not heard of anything like that, but you never know. Still, I managed to fill the tank (for the ridiculously expensive sum of £98!!) so that'll do for now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 14:32:30 GMT
I stopped looking at prices, if I need fuel I have to buy it. No way the petrochemical companies will reduce prices until they are forced to. Hahahahahahahaha. Hic.
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Post by ChrisM on Apr 7, 2022 20:23:12 GMT
There have been a few stories about protesters blocking some Esso distribution centres. I suspect that the press have been told not to report it, in case we get another round of panic buying.... I found out last week and filled the Kuga on Friday just to make sure I had enough fuel for the next 2 or 3 weeks, but I've not seen any "out of fuel" notices at the few garages that I pass daily
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Post by johnc on Apr 8, 2022 9:47:12 GMT
VPower is still 179.9p at my local Shell station - it hasn't yet seen any reduction for Rishi's 5p/litre!
I had a look in the Esso station next to the office and their E5 petrol is an eye watering 184.9p/litre. I must check out Morrisons.
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Post by Alex on Apr 8, 2022 19:17:08 GMT
All fuel stations around Horsham area have run dry and apparently its a similar situation in most of the rest of the local area. Luckily I filled up on Wednesday and went to London by train yesterday so haven't really used much.
So last time there was panic buying despite there being no shortage but due to it being the main news story. Now there is an actual shortage caused by the depot being blockaded and its barely making the papers.
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Post by ChrisM on Apr 8, 2022 21:14:20 GMT
There have been a few stories about protesters blocking some Esso distribution centres. I suspect that the press have been told not to report it, in case we get another round of panic buying.... I found out last week and filled the Kuga on Friday just to make sure I had enough fuel for the next 2 or 3 weeks, but I've not seen any "out of fuel" notices at the few garages that I pass daily ^ see my earlier post. It's apparently quite widespread, so some of my colleagues were moaning this morning. On my way home from work this evening along the M3, the overhead gantry signs were warning of no HGV diesel at Fleet services or Winchester, meaning no fuel southbound from the M25 until near Southampton IIRC
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Post by Tim on Apr 11, 2022 15:23:19 GMT
I was up in Ullapool last week and as usual the fuel there was more expensive than further south - 185.9 when I arrived. Filled up before coming home - no queue and all types available (possibly because the tanker was there!) - and it had dropped to 179.9. That was the same price as Perth later in the day whereas in the past there's been a 10-15p difference
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