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Post by Martin on Sept 29, 2021 10:32:42 GMT
Let me know if you're seriously interested / want to know more, as we're setting up a driver academy after Christmas. Fully funded training/CPC/Test (with a claw back if someone leaves after passing of course) and a guaranteed full time job at the end. We'll have a training centre in Warrington, which is one of my sites. Good to know, I will likely give you a shout. Happy to help if I can, just drop me a PM. |
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 29, 2021 11:13:31 GMT
The local 24hr station had a delivery at 1am this morning. I was the first to fill up when I drove past at 2am. I wish the BBC would stop referring to fuel shortages and instead bill it as panic buying. Did you set up a webcam? Yes, this is panic buying and nothing else. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 14:11:37 GMT
Well, I did the usual Hasda be trip today and there was zero fuel anywhere. Well there was E10 at Hasda be but I have to use super and they do not stock that ever. No queues though so if E10 fills ya tank it's there.
Bess is on reserve and with the tank at an angle no way of telling how far that will get me.
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Post by humphreythepug on Sept 29, 2021 14:16:24 GMT
Well the Shell garage opposite work has been completely dry since late Saturday, no deliveries at all.
The wife managed to get some yesterday, fortunately I drive a ZOE.
I have had to put off car collections as we just can't get any fuel in them.
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Post by Martin on Sept 29, 2021 14:49:05 GMT
Well the Shell garage opposite work has been completely dry since late Saturday, no deliveries at all. The wife managed to get some yesterday, fortunately I drive a ZOE. I have had to put off car collections as we just can't get any fuel in them. Not something I ever expected to see written down!  |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 29, 2021 16:28:33 GMT
I went out this afternoon. Just round the corner from home, the local petrol station was still closed, out of fuel since Saturday evening.
When I came back about 2 hours later, there was a tanker delivering, cones blocking entrance and exit and a queue of 6 cars in the main road waiting for it to re-open.
It was the only station I passed on the journey, but at my destination people were talking about the impossibility of buying fuel locally, so it is still a huge issue around here despite what the idiots in government may be saying
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Post by Martin on Sept 29, 2021 16:40:09 GMT
I went out this afternoon. Just round the corner from home, the local petrol station was still closed, out of fuel since Saturday evening. When I came back about 2 hours later, there was a tanker delivering, cones blocking entrance and exit and a queue of 6 cars in the main road waiting for it to re-open. It was the only station I passed on the journey, but at my destination people were talking about the impossibility of buying fuel locally, so it is still a huge issue around here despite what the idiots in government may be saying In this example, the real idiots are the people who live in that area. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 29, 2021 19:03:06 GMT
Just popped out to stick some diesel in the Cumquat. There was only me and one other car filling up at the BP station. They were out of pies though. Bastard Brexit.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 30, 2021 7:57:38 GMT
Jane filled her car on the way home from work 2 nights ago, about 8.30pm, no issue at the garage in the village. I've just filled the tank from 1/8 to full at Asda, ready for a week of work from tomorrow. Only me and one other car there. It was 134/litre so up a few pence but not massively.
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Post by PetrolEd on Sept 30, 2021 8:20:53 GMT
Still a joke around here with a queue round the block for Sainsburys fuel. All other places are dry
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Post by garry on Sept 30, 2021 9:18:12 GMT
Panic buying doesn't seem to be a thing up here in rural Lancashire. I ride past two petrol stations on the way to work. Both open, both had stock, both had free pumps you could drive up to.
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 30, 2021 12:09:37 GMT
Worse today than at the weekend round my way, most garages I have passed have some fuel (Sainsburys had a sign saying no diesel) but the queues are causing big jams on the surrounding roads
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 30, 2021 12:18:09 GMT
Just popped out to stick some diesel in the Cumquat. There was only me and one other car filling up at the BP station. They were out of pies though. Bastard Brexit. I don't get why it is now not possible to even suggest that Brexit does have some unfavourable consequences without being ridiculed as being some sort of latter day McCarthyite Remainer. It's as bad in its own way as any other bit of so-called cancel culture. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 30, 2021 14:08:27 GMT
Younger daughter continued with plan to take my wife to hospital today. No fuel in Bushey-Watford, she arrived at our home just over an hour ago with negative range on her Audi - went beyond the zero miles to go with a "refuel now" warning. Fortunately a 10 minute queue at the garage round the corner from us bought her a tankful of the ghastly E10 - the E5 was around £1-50 per litre ! Just over 43 litres into a 45 litre tank, so there really was almost nothing left.
I went out earlier this morning and although most garages in the area (not that many) are open, some are out of diesel and all open garages have queues that in some cases are causing traffic chaos with the jams they bring to the main roads. There are a few brazen idiots driving not-so-slowly on the wrong side of the road to avoid the queues, straight into oncoming traffic forcing it to take evasive action
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 30, 2021 14:09:38 GMT
Just popped out to stick some diesel in the Cumquat. There was only me and one other car filling up at the BP station. They were out of pies though. Bastard Brexit. I don't get why it is now not possible to even suggest that Brexit does have some unfavourable consequences without being ridiculed as being some sort of latter day McCarthyite Remainer. It's as bad in its own way as any other bit of so-called cancel culture. I just laugh at the way every situation is now jumped on and attributed to Brexit. It's particularly prevalent on social media. |
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 30, 2021 14:27:04 GMT
Every form of extremism is particularly prevalent on social media.
It should not be used in return as an excuse to exculpate Brexit from all blame by deploying ridicule.
We're told that some 1.3 million foreign workers (EU-born and non-EU-born) have left the UK since 2016, a trend that accelerated during the pandemic as more foreign workers reassessed the value of being in the UK. Any notion that this wasn't triggered by Brexit and doesn't include large numbers of key workers would be laughable if it wasn't so self-defeating and wrong-headed.
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 30, 2021 14:27:57 GMT
Yes: the shortage exists across Europe but the effects of that shortage assumes all things need delivering at the same time. Due to movement of workforce the wax and wane between EU states at any one time can be covered (so Polish, Slovak, Czech etc. drivers go to Germany when the need (and pay) is the greatest. Brexit means the UK can be as desperate as it likes but has to pass a parliamentary action to allow the flex, which didn't really get pushed for in a hurry did it? It's almost as if politicians are afraid to admit that it's not really a grand plan for the masses. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 30, 2021 14:33:59 GMT
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I'm not convinced that even now the government has a plan to deal with just the day-to-day running of the country, let alone the fallout from brexit (or covid)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 14:47:15 GMT
Just to point out, I am talking about the people 'out there' who blame everything on brexit and NOT an individual. Right to an opinion and all. I heard brexit being blamed for all and sundry while circulating Hasda be yesterday. |
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Post by Blarno on Sept 30, 2021 15:08:09 GMT
Dived in to Mozza's yesterday on the way home, straight to a pump. All done in minutes and they hadn't even hiked the price up. I'm now set for another week.
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Post by Blarno on Sept 30, 2021 15:12:09 GMT
I for one can't believe that in all this madness, it's the Scousers being sensible.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 30, 2021 15:58:08 GMT
Younger daughter continued with plan to take my wife to hospital today. No fuel in Bushey-Watford, she arrived at our home just over an hour ago with negative range on her Audi - went beyond the zero miles to go with a "refuel now" warning. Fortunately a 10 minute queue at the garage round the corner from us bought her a tankful of the ghastly E10 - the E5 was around £1-50 per litre ! Just over 43 litres into a 45 litre tank, so there really was almost nothing left. I went out earlier this morning and although most garages in the area (not that many) are open, some are out of diesel and all open garages have queues that in some cases are causing traffic chaos with the jams they bring to the main roads. There are a few brazen idiots driving not-so-slowly on the wrong side of the road to avoid the queues, straight into oncoming traffic forcing it to take evasive action It's when you get the stated tank capacity or more into the tank on a fill up you need to worry! I once got an indicated 73 litres into a V70 D5, with 0 miles on the range that I got really worried. That fill up cost 111 quid! I thought it was a 70 litre tank. Maybe had a reserve. Even so, I reported the garage to Trading Standards in case the calibration was tampered with. |
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Post by michael on Sept 30, 2021 16:03:46 GMT
Yes: the shortage exists across Europe but the effects of that shortage assumes all things need delivering at the same time. Due to movement of workforce the wax and wane between EU states at any one time can be covered (so Polish, Slovak, Czech etc. drivers go to Germany when the need (and pay) is the greatest. Brexit means the UK can be as desperate as it likes but has to pass a parliamentary action to allow the flex, which didn't really get pushed for in a hurry did it? It's almost as if politicians are afraid to admit that it's not really a grand plan for the masses. The underlying problem is a lack of HGV drivers and that's down to a range of factors from working conditions to normalisation of the university as a primary career pathway. EU membership was part of the problem. By having a surplus of candidates willing to drive trucks, whilst accepting reduced terms and conditions, companies like Hoyer were able to get away with paying £10per hour which drove many out of these careers. Something has to change to bring people back in into these career but sourcing overseas recruits works only for as long as those people want to live here. Many left due to COVID, not Brexit, which is why other European countries are also suffering. Personally I think the educational system needs a massive reorganisation with a cull in low quality university places and courses and refocussing on vocational training. |
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Post by michael on Sept 30, 2021 16:06:56 GMT
The local 24hr station had a delivery at 1am this morning. I was the first to fill up when I drove past at 2am. I wish the BBC would stop referring to fuel shortages and instead bill it as panic buying. Did you set up a webcam? Yes, this is panic buying and nothing else. I had visited the vets due to poorly dog! |
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 30, 2021 16:11:56 GMT
Just to point out, I am talking about the people 'out there' who blame everything on brexit and NOT an individual. Right to an opinion and all. I heard brexit being blamed for all and sundry while circulating Hasda be yesterday. Just as there were, and remain, millions of people 'out there' who eagerly blamed everything on the European Union pre-Brexit and now continue to do so post-Brexit. |
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 30, 2021 16:22:21 GMT
Yes: the shortage exists across Europe but the effects of that shortage assumes all things need delivering at the same time. Due to movement of workforce the wax and wane between EU states at any one time can be covered (so Polish, Slovak, Czech etc. drivers go to Germany when the need (and pay) is the greatest. Brexit means the UK can be as desperate as it likes but has to pass a parliamentary action to allow the flex, which didn't really get pushed for in a hurry did it? It's almost as if politicians are afraid to admit that it's not really a grand plan for the masses. Many left due to COVID, not Brexit, which is why other European countries are also suffering. Not as badly as us. I know lots of European nationals and every single one of them (including my wife I might add) said they no longer felt welcome here post-Brexit. Lots of them (including my wife, who has British citizenship) found themselves receiving unfunny comments at work from colleagues about "so when are you going home?". So sure, when the going gets tough, really what incentive was there for them to stay here? You can try and dress that up any way you like, but in this is the reality for EU citizens in the UK. To them, post-Brexit Britain feels unfriendly, uncompetitive, badly-run and not the future. |
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Post by michael on Sept 30, 2021 16:35:14 GMT
Many left due to COVID, not Brexit, which is why other European countries are also suffering. Not as badly as us. Do you have the stats to support that? Germany is 80k truck drivers short for example but we have over 50k HGV applications stuck in the DVLA. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 30, 2021 17:11:14 GMT
Brexit is not a blame for anything, it's the government's response (or lack of it) that is to blame for a number of issues that we have subsequently experienced.
Cameron should bear the blame for much of this - I believe that he had to resign as he had not got a clue what to do when the vote went opposite to what he expected. I don't think he had any idea of the effect a "leave" vote would have on the country
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Post by michael on Sept 30, 2021 17:18:42 GMT
Brexit is not a blame for anything, it's the government's response (or lack of it) that is to blame for a number of issues that we have subsequently experienced. In terms of the fuel situation it's entirely down to the public. People are fucking idiots.
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