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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 23, 2020 18:51:09 GMT
We went to M &S last night and there was a short queue before getting into the food hall but it was OK once in and there was plenty of produce. Sainsbury’s was only moderately busy this lunchtime. There is no shortage of food.
It's simply shortages of "Christmas fare". Waitrose and Sainsburys near us are full of food, but just not turkeys, chickens, large joints etc.
My wife and I spent no less than two hours taking it in turns to stand outside our local good butcher, Randalls on Wandsworth Bridge Road, this afternoon in order to secure the poultry and meat my wife wanted for her Christmas recipes. Daft but my wife insisted and given how volcanic her temper is at present over being marooned alone in London for Christmas I am trying to go with the flow wherever possible...
There were plenty of turkeys of a good size in M&S. I wonder if people have snapped up all the small ones as they aren’t having a load of people round or have opted for something else. Nigella’s even said she’s not doing turkey this year and is going with pork! I’m assuming it’s kosher.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 23, 2020 19:06:01 GMT
I'm in a heavily residential part of central London. I suspect there's a difference. We actually weren't after a turkey - my wife wanted a capon and various cuts of beef and veal. Half of that gets roasted and the rest goes into a large pot for boiling down to make a rich broth traditionally eaten at Christmas in her region with passatelli ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passatelli), which she will also make and which is utterly delicious and comforting. The boiled meat then gets eaten cold after Christmas with mostarda and other sauces (I am less keen on this aspect). Liberated from the need to "eat English" chez my sister, there was no way my wife was going to not do things her own preferred way!!
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 23, 2020 22:30:49 GMT
I do hope you get sorted out one way or the other. I am trying to be Christmassy, but it almost seems false this year as plans are not what they normally are. I kind of see the need and am trying to be understanding.
I am looking forward to tomorrow. We are having friends around (within guidelines) for food and drinks and are dining with same said friends on Christmas Day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 7:54:28 GMT
Shopping trip later on which will be interesting. I am trying to make the day as good as possible for the old lady upstairs, she is improving quite a bit to be fair so I will pick up some knick knacks from Hasda Be so she has something to open. Akin to a child opening 'things', She has had a tough year so I'll see what I can achieve there. It will be what we make it I suppose.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 24, 2020 8:49:48 GMT
I did some last minute shopping in PC World yesterday. You don’t half have to watch what you say in there.
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Post by PG on Dec 24, 2020 9:55:58 GMT
....Daft but my wife insisted and given how volcanic her temper is at present over being marooned alone in London for Christmas I am trying to go with the flow wherever possible...
Very sensible. Doing a good impersonation of one of the wise men there then ;-) Female logic around Christmas does seem rather volcanic at the best of times. I volunteered to do a lot of house cleaning as SIL is arriving on Christmas Day. I casually said how clean the house looked, to which I was told "what you mean I don't clean it as well as you....". Cue frantic back peddling, apologies and mountains of humble pie....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 10:19:51 GMT
Unhappy wife and happy husband equals unhappy husband.
Happy wife and unhappy husband equals a happier husband.
Peace folks, we get it where we can.....
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Post by Martin on Dec 24, 2020 10:53:09 GMT
I'm in a heavily residential part of central London. I suspect there's a difference. We actually weren't after a turkey - my wife wanted a capon and various cuts of beef and veal. Half of that gets roasted and the rest goes into a large pot for boiling down to make a rich broth traditionally eaten at Christmas in her region with passatelli ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passatelli), which she will also make and which is utterly delicious and comforting. The boiled meat then gets eaten cold after Christmas with mostarda and other sauces (I am less keen on this aspect). Liberated from the need to "eat English" chez my sister, there was no way my wife was going to not do things her own preferred way!! 'When in Rome' is the phrase.....that you're ignoring! Has to be a traditional Christmas lunch for me if I'm at home, fine to have other things on Christmas Eve/Boxing Day, but I wouldn't compromise. Even if I had to cook it myself, although I might not be quite as keen on keeping things traditional in the future after a year of me cooking.
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Post by Martin on Dec 24, 2020 10:56:16 GMT
Unhappy wife and happy husband equals unhappy husband. Happy wife and unhappy husband equals a happier husband.Peace folks, we get it where we can..... No, I've been there and after too much (one way) compromise and giving in on things, it turns into unhappy husband very quickly. But all's well that ends well.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 24, 2020 13:22:07 GMT
After discovering that our usual fishmonger of choice in Kensington had been stripped bare, my wife had the very bright idea of sending me up to the Waitrose in Belgravia on the premise that anyone who can afford to live in Belgravia has likely long scarpered to one of their other global boltholes in Mustique or wherever.
Top idea. Only a short queue and very well stocked. Got everything on my list including some fat Halibut steaks for this evening.
Apart from the queues outside certain shops, London feels very quiet. I reckon large numbers of people vanished to the countryside regardless of the rules.
That said, about 2/3rds of our immediate neighbours are at home, of whom half are unexpectedly so like us. We all know each other and there's been a remarkably good community spirit.
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 24, 2020 14:22:48 GMT
After discovering that our usual fishmonger of choice in Kensington had been stripped bare... ... what about his shop ??
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 24, 2020 15:22:41 GMT
I think many people do get the point, but they understand that whilst untimely deaths are very sad, they are also rare and the question is where the balance should be struck.
For instance, up to 23rd Dec, the total number of NHS reported Covid deaths for England for those under 59 and with no pre-existing conditions is 388.
With a pre existing condition the number for that age group is 3,210.
By way of comparison, in 2019 the ONS report that 5,691 people killed themselves in England and Wales, of which 493 were males aged between 45 and 49.
I don’t know what the official likelihood of asymptomatic transmission is, but I’ve read it’s sub 1%. Similarly, the chances that you have Covid without symptoms is also sub 1% (ONS data). Therefore the likelihood of you not knowing you have Covid and infecting someone else is tiny (assuming no masks and social distancing).
So, assuming you feel fine, going out for a meal in a tier 2 area is not something that I would class as irresponsible or unnecessary, particularly when the Covid rules dictate the spacing between tables, masks for staff and masks for when you are not sat at the table. In all honesty, i feel safer in a restaurant than I do in the supermarket or a shop.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 24, 2020 15:45:07 GMT
Your choice, your priority.
I see eating out as a luxury item, not an essential (and that's coming from someone who in normal times eats in a restaurant on average two nights a week - largely because it's one of the main ways we socialise). Walking into our local pizzeria to collect a take-away in early December, you couldn't help noticing it was heaving - the tables looked no more spaced than normal and there was not a mask in sight other than on the waitresses and front of house. No-one in there looked over 35 though.
Walking past other local restaurants, glancing through the plate glass windows, it was the same. Many London restaurants are small, poky and badly ventilated due to the cost of real estate, and that's just a fact.
In the supermarket, it's spacious (our local Sainsburys resembles an aircraft hanger), not crowded and everyone is wearing a mask. But we click and collect most of the time. Why not?
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 24, 2020 16:14:33 GMT
In the supermarket, it's spacious (our local Sainsburys resembles an aircraft hanger).....
Could you get me a 737 next time you're in there please, just the normal one, not the MAX size.....
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