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Post by Martin on Dec 5, 2020 11:12:13 GMT
Great news on the job front, but the new car situation is a bit of a mess..... 2020 in its entirity has been a bit of a mess, full stop I can’t believe you haven’t mentioned it before!  At least the year is almost over and there’s some hope that next year will be an improvement, better to focus on that than the past. |
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Dec 5, 2020 11:45:26 GMT
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Post by bryan on Dec 5, 2020 11:45:26 GMT
Great news Bryan. I presume you will have no problem cancelling the car on the grounds that it is not what you ordered in terms of emissions and Benefit in Kind. You are correct John, I can cancel without charge due to the change in BiK |
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Post by PG on Dec 5, 2020 17:30:07 GMT
That's excellent re the job.
Re the PHEV range, you wonder how these things happen? Somebody calculates the power needed to go 40 miles; it gets built and oh dear it only does 34. As you say, I expect they'll be squeezing bigger batteries in as quickly as they can. Mind you, it seems that not only JLR are having trouble with the WLTP measurement of their PHEV's. I saw in the Autocar review that the new Golf GTE does 39.6 miles om leccy. 0.4 under the threshold!
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Dec 5, 2020 19:50:10 GMT
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Post by bryan on Dec 5, 2020 19:50:10 GMT
Assuming the 39.6 is eAER then it rounds upto 40
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Post by bryan on Apr 8, 2021 20:44:33 GMT
So after an epic 3 month wait for the DVLA to sort out the paperwork for the emissions the Evoque finally arrived on Thursday before the bank holiday. I was a bit worried having never driven the phev version but the good news is it is brilliant. Really swift, very refined on the motorways, rides really well on the 18s. Mrs M can commute to and from work almost entirely on the leccy, just got to sort a home charger. The full leather and toys really lift the interior, so really happy with my choice. Good job as I put nearly 800miles on it over the first weekend sorting out the fleet.  |
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Post by PG on Apr 8, 2021 20:50:57 GMT
Looks really smart. I love the black with a black pack. And really top notch with the silver wheels and no privacy glass. So much nicer than the usual drug dealer wheels and glass option.
Be really interested to see how you get on with the PHEV.
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Post by ChrisM on Apr 8, 2021 20:51:58 GMT
YOW indeed......
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Apr 8, 2021 21:15:58 GMT
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Post by Roadrunner on Apr 8, 2021 21:15:58 GMT
Looks great.
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Apr 8, 2021 21:27:09 GMT
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Post by bryan on Apr 8, 2021 21:27:09 GMT
Looks really smart. I love the black with a black pack. And really top notch with the silver wheels and no privacy glass. So much nicer than the usual drug dealer wheels and glass option. Be really interested to see how you get on with the PHEV. Thanks, the Phev is great, silent in traffic, loads of power when needed, 3cyl thrum when pressing on, just enough leccy for a 30 miles round commute. Did high 30s on pure petrol mode on a run with tight engine. Overall really impressed so far |
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Post by Martin on Apr 9, 2021 5:55:00 GMT
That does look smart.
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Apr 9, 2021 6:46:07 GMT
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Post by Andy C on Apr 9, 2021 6:46:07 GMT
Very nice Bryan
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Apr 20, 2021 11:24:56 GMT
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Post by chocy on Apr 20, 2021 11:24:56 GMT
I struggle to look beyond a black car with silver wheels, I just always think they look good.
A bit more effort required to keep clean but well worth it.
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Post by garry on Apr 20, 2021 12:26:55 GMT
Looks really smart. I love the black with a black pack. And really top notch with the silver wheels and no privacy glass. So much nicer than the usual drug dealer wheels and glass option. Be really interested to see how you get on with the PHEV. Thanks, the Phev is great, silent in traffic, loads of power when needed, 3cyl thrum when pressing on, just enough leccy for a 30 miles round commute. Did high 30s on pure petrol mode on a run with tight engine. Overall really impressed so far Great looking car. I think the PHEV solution is ideal for most.( I only got a fully electric car because of tax incentives). Have you got used to the eerie silent set off in full electric mode? Took me a while to get used to it. |
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Post by bryan on Apr 20, 2021 22:10:43 GMT
I got used to the silent starts in the c class which was another phev....but still remember the wonderment at the silent progress especially in traffic. I am now so used to it the stop/start systems seem really unrefined by comparison
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Post by PetrolEd on May 21, 2021 9:58:50 GMT
My dad ordered a new Evoque P300e about a month ago. Nice spec with pano roof and as he's 81 was probably going to be his last car but the dealers just phoned up and said they can't supply the car anymore. Apparently they are blaming it on the Chips issue. Not our lovely Land Rover insider Pete but the microchip shortage. gotta feel sorry for everyone in the chain but my dads not too happy so is now looking at anything thats nearly new as he sold his Golf R last month and is having to share his wifes T-Cross which obviously hes not too keen on. Anyone know how long this chips issue is likely to last?
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Post by chipbutty on May 21, 2021 10:03:41 GMT
Anywhere between 6 and 12 months - all hinges on how fast the chip suppliers can ramp up.
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Post by PetrolEd on May 21, 2021 10:25:09 GMT
Anywhere between 6 and 12 months - all hinges on how fast the chip suppliers can ramp up. That's got to be terrible news for you and the dealers. Its going to put the used car market up to an even dafter level. |
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May 21, 2021 11:49:14 GMT
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Post by bryan on May 21, 2021 11:49:14 GMT
Ed, there are a lot of unused Phev p300e in LR network after the car tax increase led to them being handed back.....one of those may fit the bill?
Really impressed with ours
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Post by Alex on May 21, 2021 12:10:57 GMT
Anywhere between 6 and 12 months - all hinges on how fast the chip suppliers can ramp up. My understanding is that it's not a lack of production but the increased demand from the consumer electronics market which makes up a much larger chunk of the chip producers market than car manufacturers do. Having stopped ordering chips during the Covid factory shutdowns the auto makers now find themselves at the back of a much longer queue just as they're also trying to build cars with much more complex electrical systems. |
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Post by garry on May 21, 2021 14:28:14 GMT
My dad ordered a new Evoque P300e about a month ago. Nice spec with pano roof and as he's 81 was probably going to be his last car but the dealers just phoned up and said they can't supply the car anymore. Apparently they are blaming it on the Chips issue. Not our lovely Land Rover insider Pete but the microchip shortage. gotta feel sorry for everyone in the chain but my dads not too happy so is now looking at anything thats nearly new as he sold his Golf R last month and is having to share his wifes T-Cross which obviously hes not too keen on. Anyone know how long this chips issue is likely to last? I’m most impressed by an 81 year having a Golf R. That’s the way to grow old! |
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Post by chipbutty on May 22, 2021 15:52:44 GMT
Anywhere between 6 and 12 months - all hinges on how fast the chip suppliers can ramp up. My understanding is that it's not a lack of production but the increased demand from the consumer electronics market which makes up a much larger chunk of the chip producers market than car manufacturers do. Having stopped ordering chips during the Covid factory shutdowns the auto makers now find themselves at the back of a much longer queue just as they're also trying to build cars with much more complex electrical systems. That is a lack of production, they cannot meet demand unless they increase their production capacity. They need to make up for the shortfall when they themselves were under manufacturing restrictions as well as increased demand. The shortages are not just affecting automotive, but pretty much every product that uses them. |
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Post by cbeaks1 on May 22, 2021 17:15:26 GMT
There was also a very large fire at a supplier in Japan earlier this year. Lost about 3 months.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 22, 2021 17:19:10 GMT
Yes, the chip shortage is affecting us badly as well. Part of the problem with the auto industry is that, by the time a new model is released, the technology is already dated and chip manufacturers are more interested in selling newer, more lucrative, chipsets. Add in the fact the auto industry has everything costed down to fractions of pennies and wants everything at very low margins, it's not an attractive market for manufacturers.
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Post by rodge on May 23, 2021 3:43:40 GMT
My understanding is that it's not a lack of production but the increased demand from the consumer electronics market which makes up a much larger chunk of the chip producers market than car manufacturers do. Having stopped ordering chips during the Covid factory shutdowns the auto makers now find themselves at the back of a much longer queue just as they're also trying to build cars with much more complex electrical systems. That is a lack of production, they cannot meet demand unless they increase their production capacity. They need to make up for the shortfall when they themselves were under manufacturing restrictions as well as increased demand. The shortages are not just affecting automotive, but pretty much every product that uses them. The real issue is that the automotive industry uses technology that’s not around anymore. I work directly with the suppliers and they have orders for the next 2 years for machines they haven’t had to build in 5-10 years as tech has moved on, but the big car companies haven’t. This has the secondary problem of the raw materials not being available for the old tech as it’s not made that way anymore, so the supporting manufacturers have to find the parts for the machines that are no longer made, which will have a lead time of 12 weeks minimum and so on. The tech is the same that was used to build 486 processors in the early 90’s. The chip makers have the availability in their schedule, they just aren’t willing to buy more old tech as it’s of no use to them anymore. The other issue is that they use so many of them in their cars- I heard on an industry call recently that some vehicles made by Ford and GM, have 150 different ECU’s in them! There’s plenty of tech available to fix this, the issue is the manufacturers got lazy and didn’t want to move with the times. Apparently the Japanese, some European and new American companies are moving towards a centralized ECU that will handle everything on the car. Great idea, until it develops a fault and breaks and the whole vehicle is stranded for a princely sum of ££££££ just outside the warranty. |
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Post by bryan on Jan 6, 2022 18:35:13 GMT
The Evoque had it's first service today at JLR Derby - very fancy with the drive in tunnel and all carried out effieciently - apparently they serviced over 50 cars today! It was slightly over on mileage at 11500 since April (intervals should be annual or 10500) but it had been booked in since early November
The car continues to run well bar the EV/Climate control issue which was confirmed today as faulty HV Coolant Heater (an known issue to the service agent) and the part is on back order with no ETA. This is a bit frustrating as we can't use the EV properly until it is replaced.
As the service guy said it is useful to have the spare petrol engine because the same fault occurs in the iPACE and then they are undriveable.
Still it has had its first wash/vacum since we got it and I really like it to drive, especially in crappy conditions.
In other news, the garage has just rung and the Elan has had it's upgrades/repairs completed - so looking forward to collecting that...the only issue is due the time it has been away the space in the garage has long filled with crap!! I have my work cut out to clear it out so the car can fit back in....that's this weekends jobs sorted!
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Post by johnc on Jan 12, 2022 14:57:25 GMT
As the service guy said it is useful to have the spare petrol engine because the same fault occurs in the iPACE and then they are undriveable. Oh marvellous!! |
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Post by Tim on Jan 12, 2022 15:54:11 GMT
As the service guy said it is useful to have the spare petrol engine because the same fault occurs in the iPACE and then they are undriveable. Oh marvellous!! I haven't seen a stationary iPACE yet....... |
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Post by bryan on Sept 28, 2022 19:49:17 GMT
The Evoque went in for its second service today at 18 months and 22k. It was the usual main dealer experience of very slick but full of bullshit, at least they washed it!
They replaced the driveshaft bearing in January but that has failed again so it is booked in the middle of November for another one, apparently modified this time. Service agent tried to suggest they were wear and tear consumables 😂😂
They replaced the ev heater thing in July but the climate control only worked sporadically, it has had the software reinstalled, and hopefully that will fix it.
The concerning thing were the tyres being flagged on the health check, the wear is minimal at c5mm over 22k but they highlighted cracking in the treads on all 4 tyres.
Is this
a) normal and Nothing to worry about and the dealer trying to make a quick buck....they backed off when I said to speak to Zenith
b) they need changing and is either a warranty issue (shouldn't expect cracking at 18 months) or for Zenith to sort and I should kick up a fuss.
Thoughts welcome
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Post by michael on Sept 28, 2022 20:26:45 GMT
Who makes the tyres? I’d have thought the manufacturer needs to be contacted to see if there’s a problem with the batch.
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 28, 2022 21:00:02 GMT
Who makes the tyres? I’d have thought the manufacturer needs to be contacted to see if there’s a problem with the batch. My first thoughts too. Tyres so young shouldn't be showing signs of cracking at the "base" of the tread |
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