Lewis Hamilton moment

Colston's statue has been a 'bone of contention' since the 1990's with the rise of grevance politics - even his wiki page doesn' reference any works on him prior to 1999.
Why should there be any embarrasment of our (often very long past? Show me one country or people that hasn't done shitty or shady things to another.

As for Liverpool it rose originally as a stopping off point for the monarch to go Paddy-bashing. Pull it down becasue it's a shithole full of thin-skinned, bin-diving, job-dodgers, not due to it's links with the slave trade.

Pretty much throughout the whole of human history, there has been a standard thing of one group (tribe, region, nation, race, religion) trying to kill / subjugate / control / impoverish / rule over / silence / eradicate another group. Right back to homo sapiens supposedly killing neanderthals. At least in today's climate we acknowledge said issues and discuss them. Maybe even try and learn from them.

But no more it seems. We have to eradicate all trace of people, place names, statues, monuments that are from times past that may not be in line with today's morals.

But the people who want to remove history, as if we have to ignore it, are doing nothing but the same thing. They want to remove all traces of people who operated in the past by the rules that then were accepted. Do they have no sense of the irony of their position?

One you start rewriting history, where do you stop? If we are to remove all traces of people that benefitted from slavery, are we going to tear down the pyramids (built by slave labour)? Are we going to tear down all mosques as Mohammed kept slaves? Remove Ghandi as he said that Indians were superior to non-Indians? Of course not. That would require all history and historical figures to be judged by the same standards. Whereas what this is really about is judging people by the colour of their skin, and not in a good way.  In a sense, BLM are as racist as the people they want to airbrush from history. As I said, they have no sense of irony. 

I'm fed up with the whole circus. Let's get back to the core issue. 

Arresting anybody by kneeling on their neck for several minutes is never right. Ever.  
Let's address the issues in how all communities are policed.  
Let's state that ALL lives matter. If you can't say that, you are as much part of the issue. 

But let's not get swept up in all this woke shyte that is nothing more than politics dressed up as grievance. 

Discovered by those that want to alter history.

Of course in a decade or two we can wipe all BLM activists off the slate as that’s what they’d want.

Just found this from a visit I made to Bristol in August 2013:

I'm starting to see that already on Facebook feeds. Some deleting will be happening, I think.

I wish people would remember that Animal Farm and 1984 were fucking warnings and not how-to manuals.

Although this cuts both ways and should serve as a reminder as the need to strongly cherish and defend absolutely both freedom of speech, and the right to protest and generally inconvenience the ruling class. 

The threat of an omniscient party as envisaged by Orwell is not unique to either the left or the right. There have been repressive totalitarian left-wing regimes and repressive totalitarian right-wing regimes, and they proved equally nasty. 

Good point except do you think ANY young kids will even notice the statue (in real life, I'm sure they're plastered all over Instagram at the moment) and then take the trouble to look the person up?

There's a statue in Glasgow of a guy on horseback. I'm sure everyone who goes past has actually noticed it but not because of who or what it is rather because it always has a traffic cone on the guy's head.
I've passed it loads of times and couldn't tell you who it is because I've never stopped to read the inscription.

We're very quickly going to get to a point where there are NO statues anywhere because everybody who is idolised (?) will have something in their character or past that another group object to. It won't just be about BLM, it'll be Every LM so each protesting voice will carry the same weight.

What a wonderful can of worms we're opening. I can't wait for the next few years. I think the Catholic Church is pretty much finished. Once you've gone through Paedophile Priests, oppression of gay people, workhouses, genocide of indigenous peoples, financing of wars, Nazi sympathising, etc. Stick slavery on top of that and there's really not a church that should be left untouched and intact. 

There are calls for James Cook's statue to be taken down in Great Ayton apparently. Where does it end, indeed.

Well I've removed all photos of my paternal granddad from the house for a start. Served in India between the wars, recruited colonial soldiers in the second world war. What a bastard, eh?

The story of the battle of Hasting many of us were taught at school has been proven to be incorrect. There was one route to the top of the hill where Battle Abbey now stands that the Norman army could have used due to the boggy/marshy nature of the land at the time. There have been precisely zero artifacts found in the traditional area's supposedly fought on and the only area where artifacts relating to the battle have been found have been around the area of the town. History will always be written by the victor.

And now I find that they are not sure again. I really wish historians could make a proper study of the thing and be done with it. You are correct, I am not sure and the future is a dingy shade of Orange, or maybe purple. Who knows?

There are a number of streets around the country that carry my surname - a prominent one being the site of the World's first VD clinic. I think it's safe.

Is Trevor Philips a 'Colonel Blimp' type?