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Post by Tim on Oct 17, 2019 10:02:07 GMT
The new motah is going to become Mrs Tim's daily driver once we ship the Micra off to her mum so I'm going to get some season-appropriate footwear for the mighty 530.
The only question is should I go for full winters (e.g. Goodyear Ultragrip Performance G1s at £126 each) or the Michelin Crossclimate+ at £111 each?
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Post by Martin on Oct 17, 2019 11:31:25 GMT
I’d go for CrossClimate+
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 17, 2019 12:41:10 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 17, 2019 12:42:50 GMT
Anyone know if those would be accepted by the police in places where winter tyres are obligatory?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 17, 2019 12:49:09 GMT
Anyone know if those would be accepted by the police in places where winter tyres are obligatory? I believe they have the winter snowflake symbol and therefore meet the requirements of winter tyres. |
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Post by Tim on Oct 17, 2019 13:29:47 GMT
The next question then is - Should I get a set of winter wheels?
There's a set of 5 on ebay for £250+shipping.
Thing is the car has done 190k miles and the MOT is up in December, although there's no obcious reason why it would fail (nasty exhaust smell notwithstanding).
I think it only makes sense if the wheels would fit the 320 but not sure how I'd go about finding that out.
Any (sensible or helpful) suggestions?
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 17, 2019 14:00:30 GMT
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Post by ChrisM on Oct 17, 2019 14:19:09 GMT
^
IIRC there are basically 2 things to check:
Diameter of circle for the fixing bolts, and offset
always presuming that you have the same number of fixing bolts on both cars......
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Post by Blarno on Oct 17, 2019 14:29:45 GMT
All BMW 5 stud wheels will fit other BMWs. They're all 5x120 with a 68mm centre. I've been looking for a cheeky set of 17s for mine so I can refurbish the 18s and paint them a darker shade. I have a brand new set of Kumho winters sat on the shelf at work just waiting for a car to fit them to. www.wheelfitment.euIt also transpires that Range Rover, Discovery and some Rolls Royce wheels also fit, if you're that way inclined. And also Mini 5 studs |
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 17, 2019 14:47:32 GMT
Don't you also need to be wary of the offsets (ie the ET figure)?
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Post by Blarno on Oct 17, 2019 15:01:14 GMT
You do, but only if you're planning on putting X5 wheels on a 3 Series, or M5 wheels on a 1 Series, etc. I found the wheelfitment website very handy for that.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Oct 17, 2019 16:06:56 GMT
The new motah is going to become Mrs Tim's daily driver once we ship the Micra off to her mum so I'm going to get some season-appropriate footwear for the mighty 530. The only question is should I go for full winters (e.g. Goodyear Ultragrip Performance G1s at £126 each) or the Michelin Crossclimate+ at £111 each? Crossclimates. Ideal compromise as the grip won't go off above 8 deg like full winters and you can leave them on all year if you want. I think they suite our variable climate well. Mine will go on next month. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Oct 17, 2019 16:07:37 GMT
All BMW 5 stud wheels will fit other BMWs. They're all 5x120 with a 68mm centre. I've been looking for a cheeky set of 17s for mine so I can refurbish the 18s and paint them a darker shade. I have a brand new set of Kumho winters sat on the shelf at work just waiting for a car to fit them to. www.wheelfitment.euIt also transpires that Range Rover, Discovery and some Rolls Royce wheels also fit, if you're that way inclined. And also Mini 5 studs Blarno in winter tyres shocker! |
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Post by Tim on Oct 17, 2019 16:11:02 GMT
Thanks everyone.
I might have to swap one over at the weekend because my 320 has the blue painted BMW Performance calipers which are 4 piston rather than single piston like the standard ones (and fitted onto, for example, standard 335ds so proving that the fancy calipers are a worthless upgrade apart from for looks) so there might be clearance issues.
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Post by Tim on Oct 17, 2019 16:11:40 GMT
All BMW 5 stud wheels will fit other BMWs. They're all 5x120 with a 68mm centre. I've been looking for a cheeky set of 17s for mine so I can refurbish the 18s and paint them a darker shade. I have a brand new set of Kumho winters sat on the shelf at work just waiting for a car to fit them to. www.wheelfitment.euIt also transpires that Range Rover, Discovery and some Rolls Royce wheels also fit, if you're that way inclined. And also Mini 5 studs Blarno in winter tyres shocker! He'll need them if he wants to get anywhere using that car in the white stuff! |
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Post by johnc on Oct 17, 2019 16:34:14 GMT
I've been looking at winter wheels and tyres too. Some of the used German dealers have a section at the bottom of their ads which tell you if the wheels fit your car.
My choice seems to be about £2,200 used from Germany or £3,400 new and at a discount from a dealer! Gulp!
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 17, 2019 16:38:29 GMT
I've been looking at winter wheels and tyres too. Some of the used German dealers have a section at the bottom of their ads which tell you if the wheels fit your car. My choice seems to be about £2,200 used from Germany or £3,400 new and at a discount from a dealer! Gulp! Lurk on an owner's website or post a wanted advert on the classifieds section thereof?
That's how I got the winter wheels for both my M135i and the 440i. Think the M135i ones were £900 and the 440i ones were £750, or there or thereabouts. In each case in minty condition with nearly new Pirelli PZeros.
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Post by Martin on Oct 17, 2019 16:43:45 GMT
Anyone know if those would be accepted by the police in places where winter tyres are obligatory? I’m pretty sure they’ve got the snowflake symbol, can check when I’m back home as we’ve got them on the Golfs winter wheels. They get excellent reviews and there are videos online showing how good they are in the snow. With the U.K winters being so variable in temperature, I think they’re the best option as you don’t have to keep hanging on to fit them and then rush to take them off. |
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Post by Martin on Oct 17, 2019 16:45:58 GMT
I've been looking at winter wheels and tyres too. Some of the used German dealers have a section at the bottom of their ads which tell you if the wheels fit your car. My choice seems to be about £2,200 used from Germany or £3,400 new and at a discount from a dealer! Gulp! I got my 19” M Sport wheels from Germany, £1800 with fairly new tyres. The residual value if you keep them immaculate (as you will) is pretty good and the wear rate is probably better than the summers to you can take a set of summer tyres off the cost. The man maths on mine came to a saving! |
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Post by johnc on Oct 17, 2019 17:06:48 GMT
I've been looking at winter wheels and tyres too. Some of the used German dealers have a section at the bottom of their ads which tell you if the wheels fit your car. My choice seems to be about £2,200 used from Germany or £3,400 new and at a discount from a dealer! Gulp! I got my 19” M Sport wheels from Germany, £1800 with fairly new tyres. The residual value if you keep them immaculate (as you will) is pretty good and the wear rate is probably better than the summers to you can take a set of summer tyres off the cost. The man maths on mine came to a saving! My man maths can take the VAT off a UK set, then tax relief then the cost of a set of tyres less the residual value and they're free! |
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Post by Martin on Oct 17, 2019 18:00:57 GMT
I got my 19” M Sport wheels from Germany, £1800 with fairly new tyres. The residual value if you keep them immaculate (as you will) is pretty good and the wear rate is probably better than the summers to you can take a set of summer tyres off the cost. The man maths on mine came to a saving! My man maths can take the VAT off a UK set, then tax relief then the cost of a set of tyres less the residual value and they're free! I need an accountant!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 18:23:24 GMT
I said to myself last winter when I got the Q3 that I'd sort out a set of winter tyres (and wheels) by this winter. Guess what...
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Post by johnc on Oct 17, 2019 18:35:30 GMT
I said to myself last winter when I got the Q3 that I'd sort out a set of winter tyres (and wheels) by this winter. Guess what... A few corners and roundabouts in the damp with temperatures below 10 degrees told me very quickly that a kerb or a hedge was a likelihood if I used the summer PZeros through the winter. More man maths - that saves me the excess on my insurance! |
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Post by Blarno on Oct 18, 2019 7:25:50 GMT
All BMW 5 stud wheels will fit other BMWs. They're all 5x120 with a 68mm centre. I've been looking for a cheeky set of 17s for mine so I can refurbish the 18s and paint them a darker shade. I have a brand new set of Kumho winters sat on the shelf at work just waiting for a car to fit them to. www.wheelfitment.euIt also transpires that Range Rover, Discovery and some Rolls Royce wheels also fit, if you're that way inclined. And also Mini 5 studs Blarno in winter tyres shocker! I only have them because they were free! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 7:33:56 GMT
I said to myself last winter when I got the Q3 that I'd sort out a set of winter tyres (and wheels) by this winter. Guess what... A few corners and roundabouts in the damp with temperatures below 10 degrees told me very quickly that a kerb or a hedge was a likelihood if I used the summer PZeros through the winter. More man maths - that saves me the excess on my insurance! That's interesting. I find the PS4S a reliable tyre even when it's cold and wet. As was the Goodyear that preceded it. The Pirelli and Continentals that went before were more affected, though. |
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Post by johnc on Oct 18, 2019 8:23:25 GMT
A few corners and roundabouts in the damp with temperatures below 10 degrees told me very quickly that a kerb or a hedge was a likelihood if I used the summer PZeros through the winter. More man maths - that saves me the excess on my insurance! That's interesting. I find the PS4S a reliable tyre even when it's cold and wet. As was the Goodyear that preceded it. The Pirelli and Continentals that went before were more affected, though. The PS4S is known for having a much wider range of abilities than the PZero and the PZero's low temperature behaviour is really bad whereas the PS4S will maintain a lot more composure in those conditions. My wife's old PZero's were like a set of skis when it snowed - no grip going forward and nearly unstoppable once some speed had been gained (in truth, totally unsafe). However the PZero is a great tyre when it is warmer with masses of grip. |
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 18, 2019 9:10:42 GMT
Which is rather odd, because I find the PZeros on my car not marvellous when it is warmer in terms of grip, but extremely impressive on snow and ice.
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Post by johnc on Oct 18, 2019 9:29:34 GMT
Which is rather odd, because I find the PZeros on my car not marvellous when it is warmer in terms of grip, but extremely impressive on snow and ice. Do they do different versions of the PZero? |
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Post by Tim on Oct 18, 2019 9:58:26 GMT
Remember EVO pointed out the wear rating of the PZeros on the Alfa Giulia QF.
I know the ones I put on my 370 were significantly different.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 10:48:22 GMT
Mine is on P Zero rubber, too. I don't rate them very highly!
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