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Post by LandieMark on Aug 13, 2018 12:59:36 GMT
As mentioned on the Today I am mostly Wanting topic, I spotted a V8 Series III. I've hankered after a Series Land Rover for quite a while - simple mechanicals and incredible fun if you like that sort of thing. I would have been happy with a 2.25 petrol, but when I saw this rare to the market V8 conversion, I had to have it. Beer fuelled ebay bidding is never a good idea and when I saw where it was I was kind of hoping I would get outbid. While this wasn't inconceivable - people pay some odd amounts for old Landies - it wasn't to be and I got the message that I had won the auction. I am actually quite excited. £2850 isn't an unreasonable amount for a fairly complete looking car - people pay £500 for a pile of rust and a logbook and non runners are going for £2k or so. A good, running Series III will stand you at about £5-7k at the moment. A friend took me out in his Ex RAF 1966 Series 2A last night and this reaffirmed my love of these daft old things.  I'm collecting it on Thursday with a mate to help with the driving. Several good friends of mine own Series Landies so I do know what I am getting myself into. This is an honest looking vehicle from the photos and while I am sure there will be stuff to sort, this is not a daily car and if it takes me a few months, then so be it. I like a truck cab - they look nice and due to the tailgate, they convert to a soft top very easily. The seller claims the bulkhead has been sorted with new metal and certainly, the photos do point to that. You can't see the top corners, but these are fine according to the seller. The door tops look new (to this car) and the door bottoms have been repaired. I looked at the MOT history and it has been off the road since 2013, but not due to corrosion. The chassis has allegedly been repaired along with the bulkhead and the wheel arch protectors have been replaced. The only tricky thing is going to be getting the bulkhead sorted around the bell housing. When Land Rover made the Series 3 V8 (called the Stage 1) they put a new front end on it which later became the standard flat fronted Land Rover as seen in the 90/110 and Defender. This has had a conversion where he bulkhead is cut to fit the engine to the Series gearbox keeping the original front end. This will need patches fabricating to cover the holes to the engine bay. They will probably need to be removable for access to number s 7 & 8 spark plugs. Obviously once mechanicals are sorted it will get a coat of paint, but that is a cheap and easy job with some Land Rover enamel and a gloss roller. I'll probably go Bronze Green. I think this one is currently Coniston Green which is a little light IMO. ebay pictures:          |
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Post by Tim on Aug 13, 2018 13:23:17 GMT
Brilliant
'Lets off-road'
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Post by Alex on Aug 13, 2018 13:43:39 GMT
Mark that’s a bloody bargain. Even if it turns into an utter nightmare you’ll easily shift it for what you paid for it and then some. Values of series Land Rovers are already on the rise and S3’s start at £8k on AT at the moment. When the new Defender comes in a couple of years interest will increase further. I know you aren’t buying this to sell on but nevertheless it’s a pretty solid investment, especially with a V8. You’ve got a good support network in the Land Rover community too so I’m sure there’ll be plenty of advice available. Enjoy!
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Post by cbeaks1 on Aug 13, 2018 14:40:33 GMT
#prayformark
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 13, 2018 15:11:11 GMT
It's incredible isn't it? #prayformark #nofear  |
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Post by Tim on Aug 13, 2018 15:34:02 GMT
This is going to be a fantastic thread  |
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Post by PG on Aug 13, 2018 15:37:12 GMT
You're a sucker for punishment aren't you :-)
As Alex said, that must be a bargain. Unless it is actually a pile of shyte and far worse than the photos lead you to believe. Even then, how much can a new chassis, suspension, bulkhead, engine, interior and wiring be......
Enjoy it!!
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Post by Martin on Aug 13, 2018 15:40:04 GMT
Best of luck!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 13, 2018 15:43:48 GMT
Why go and pick it up? Just ask the seller to send you the log book and the plates only? You're going to change everything anyway so surely there's no need to actually transport all of the old parts..?
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Post by bryan on Aug 13, 2018 16:07:39 GMT
You're a sucker for punishment aren't you :-) As Alex said, that must be a bargain. Unless it is actually a pile of shyte and far worse than the photos lead you to believe. Even then, how much can a new chassis, suspension, bulkhead, engine, interior and wiring be...... Enjoy it!! Most of the research and pricing has already been worked out from the rest of his fleet😁 Enjoy, would look epic with a tow hook/hoist on the rear deck! |
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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 13, 2018 16:22:11 GMT
I'd like to say congratulations but I think you're mad. Looking at that interior tell me you've had your tetanus shot.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 13, 2018 16:30:48 GMT
I'd like to say congratulations but I think you're mad. Looking at that interior tell me you've had your tetanus shot. 😂🤣. You haven’t been up close and personal with many working (as in used for work) Series Land Rovers have you?! Interior will hose down. I am going to spend as little as possible on this one. Check and repair any mechanicals and get it MOTd and paint it. I like the way it looks as it is bar paint. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 13, 2018 22:03:42 GMT
You can't loose at that price.
I would be wanting to fit an overdrive or higher ratio axles as well. Also be aware that a full bore take off in high range first gear is likely to bust a half shaft, as I found out with my IIa V8. Starting off in 2nd gear will be the usual way to get going.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 22:07:50 GMT
I hope it all goes well, this is the sort of thing that makes bloody good reading, and it is always nice to see,
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Post by Boxer6 on Aug 13, 2018 22:12:34 GMT
I hope it all goes well, this is the sort of thing that makes bloody good reading, and it is always nice to see, This sums it up for me really! |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 14, 2018 7:19:01 GMT
I am going to spend as little as possible on this one. Check and repair any mechanicals and get it MOTd and paint it. I like the way it looks as it is bar paint. I'm screensaving this for future reference! |
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Post by Big Blue on Aug 14, 2018 11:27:27 GMT
Why go and pick it up? Just ask the seller to send you the log book and the plates only? You're going to change everything anyway so surely there's no need to actually transport all of the old parts..? ROFL Mark, you nut-job. Fair play though. |
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 14, 2018 14:49:39 GMT
It’s not as mental as going out buying a P38 which I was contemplating.
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Post by Tim on Aug 14, 2018 15:16:01 GMT
Now THAT would be a long thread!
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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 14, 2018 15:52:38 GMT
Did you pay extra for it being a Harlequin edition?
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 14, 2018 16:11:00 GMT
Of course, it means that the rotten panels have been thrown away and replaced with not quite so rotten ones.  |
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Post by PG on Aug 14, 2018 20:24:59 GMT
It’s not as mental as going out buying a P38 which I was contemplating. Oh dear. I've been doing some man-contemplating on a P38 recently. Mind you, I'm told ones that are 2000 onwards are OK. It is the earlier ones that are terrible build wise. |
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 14, 2018 20:34:08 GMT
The Bosch cars with the Thor engine are supposed to be better. All the complications scare me, but at least they don’t rust.
They are a lovely place to sit.
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 14, 2018 20:58:23 GMT
I had a passenger ride in a last of the line P38 Westminster and was surprised at how shonky it was.
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Post by Alex on Aug 14, 2018 21:01:01 GMT
It’s not as mental as going out buying a P38 which I was contemplating. Oh dear. I've been doing some man-contemplating on a P38 recently. Mind you, I'm told ones that are 2000 onwards are OK. It is the earlier ones that are terrible build wise. They’re probably old enough that all the shit ones are either in the hands of council estate drug dealers or on the scrap heap, so at least those left on places like Auto Trader are probably ok and later models are arguably a better bet than an early L322. Though I can imagine they’re still money pits! |
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 14, 2018 21:23:28 GMT
Yes, our local farmer (not the one I work for) has an early L322 and the dash permanently resembles a Christmas tree. Tailgate is rusty too.
I think P38s reflect how well they’ve been looked after. There are a lot of very tired interiors about.
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Post by PG on Aug 15, 2018 10:11:42 GMT
Yes, our local farmer (not the one I work for) has an early L322 and the dash permanently resembles a Christmas tree. Tailgate is rusty too. My LR expert told me that L322's are much improved from the 2005 model year when they had the upgraded satnav and wiring changes. There's a sweet spot of petrol V8's and even a few supercharged ones that are 05 or 55 reg with the updates and registered pre March 2006 to get you the £315 road tax. |
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 15, 2018 15:33:39 GMT
Rental trailer has been collected. Setting off 5am tomorrow morning!
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Post by Alex on Aug 15, 2018 16:54:52 GMT
Yes, our local farmer (not the one I work for) has an early L322 and the dash permanently resembles a Christmas tree. Tailgate is rusty too. My LR expert told me that L322's are much improved from the 2005 model year when they had the upgraded satnav and wiring changes. There's a sweet spot of petrol V8's and even a few supercharged ones that are 05 or 55 reg with the updates and registered pre March 2006 to get you the £315 road tax. It’s odd that the early models which essentially had the electrics of the E39 5 and mk1 X5 are less reliable than the post 2005 models which had Jaguar electricals (which were Ford/Lincoln derived). |
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Post by Tim on Aug 16, 2018 12:51:05 GMT
Not that odd, I've had more minor electrical glitches in BMWs than I've had in Fiats/Alfas.
My E39 is potentially a spectacular rust bucket whereas the Fiat is less so.
Not sure about the full truth of this but when I worked at the garage the MD bought a 2007 FFRR at auction and the techs were dismayed to discover a hole in the dash where the satnav/stereo were meant to be.
Research allegedly showed this to be a £7k issue!
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