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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 16, 2018 13:05:59 GMT
My LR expert told me that L322's are much improved from the 2005 model year when they had the upgraded satnav and wiring changes. There's a sweet spot of petrol V8's and even a few supercharged ones that are 05 or 55 reg with the updates and registered pre March 2006 to get you the £315 road tax. It’s odd that the early models which essentially had the electrics of the E39 5 and mk1 X5 are less reliable than the post 2005 models which had Jaguar electricals (which were Ford/Lincoln derived). Agreed that this is not odd at all. Jaguars of that era were very reliable. Don't believe the myth that German cars are better built or more reliable than anything else.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 16, 2018 15:09:59 GMT
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Post by Martin on Aug 16, 2018 16:50:25 GMT
Excellent, going to be interesting to see how this goes.
Good to see the Defender made the journey, how was it driving all that way in it?
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Post by cbeaks1 on Aug 16, 2018 19:33:36 GMT
If you look closely it is getting a tow off that Passat.
I like the look of the Pick up, but is the cab not tiny? Did you check if you can drive it?
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Post by Alex on Aug 16, 2018 20:02:59 GMT
It’s odd that the early models which essentially had the electrics of the E39 5 and mk1 X5 are less reliable than the post 2005 models which had Jaguar electricals (which were Ford/Lincoln derived). Agreed that this is not odd at all. Jaguars of that era were very reliable. Don't believe the myth that German cars are better built or more reliable than anything else. I don’t necessary but I’m sure the E39 had a well earned reputation for reliability. Great picture Mark, glad you got it back alright, should be an interesting project. Enjoy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 20:24:33 GMT
Let the entertainment commence and the good times, err, roll.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 16, 2018 21:59:56 GMT
Only just got back. That’s an 19 hour day! If I was on tachograph they would throw away the key.
Defender was impeccable. The first thing the seller asked me was I mental for driving the Defender all the way from Co. Durham to Swanage! 😂 I think you probably know the answer.
Truck cabs are small, but I drive it onto the trailer without an issue.
Bodywork is straight. Chassis is solid but needs a rub down and paint/underseal. It could do with a set of springs and some new tyres and the handbrake is stuck on a little. All minor stuff.
I am happy. Oh and it sounds brilliant despite a misfire. Engine is quiet with no taps/knocks so all good.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 16, 2018 22:30:25 GMT
Excellent, going to be interesting to see how this goes. Good to see the Defender made the journey, how was it driving all that way in it? Defender is fine over distance as I’m used to the driving position although my knees are a little sore. It’s not ideal, but it will sit at 65-70 comfortably. It towed loaded at 60 without a problem. The hold ups were lorries in lane 2 and not being allowed in lane 3 due to the trailer.
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 17, 2018 12:44:16 GMT
^ From what I have seen recently on the M3 and M25, you are allowed into lane 3 (of 3, or lane 4 of 4) when towing, and the speed limit for vehicles with a trailer is over 70 mph .......
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 17, 2018 14:26:46 GMT
Had a better look today. Nothing on the list too onerous or unexpected on there.
Needs brakes sorting. They are as sticky as hell.
Engine is misfiring and backfiring. Carbs will need setting up/overhauling and timing is clearly out. Valley gasket is looking crusty so can do this at the same time. May as well check the camshaft.
Oil filter housing is leaking. It needs a proper remote filter housing installing to avoid axle/filter interference. Someone has turned the housing around rather than fitting the proper remote housing. Needs oil pressure switch and will probably fit a gauge.
I’ve put antifreeze in it to stop it corroding or freezing while sat laid up. Needs a proper temperature sender matched to the gauge. Gauge works, as does the fuel gauge. Fan is a bit shit so may put a thermostatic one on with override. Fan has to be a pusher due to lack of space.
Speedo cable missing.
Wiring will need looking at. No wipers for example. Lights and indicators work.
Will need door seals and new window channels.
Bulkhead pieces are all there. Just need fettling and fitting.
Needs a piece of inner wing making.
Patch to rear of chassis adjacent to rear cross member. The rest is genuinely solid so simply needs painting and underselling.
Set of springs and shocks.
Front apron missing.
Recovery points.
Tyres.
Exhaust to be properly fettled.
It’s going to take a while and I’m not going to rush.
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Post by PG on Aug 17, 2018 20:42:43 GMT
Let the entertainment commence and the good times, err, roll. And so it begins.....That list looks quite a long one! Good luck with it and enjoy it. I'm sure rebuilding it will bring enormous self-spannering satisfaction.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 18, 2018 17:10:56 GMT
Let the entertainment commence and the good times, err, roll. And so it begins.....That list looks quite a long one! Good luck with it and enjoy it. I'm sure rebuilding it will bring enormous self-spannering satisfaction. Yes, I’m looking forward to it. A full brake overhaul kit is £50, so I will probably start with that as well as put a master cylinder and new handbrake mechanism on it.
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Post by Alex on Aug 18, 2018 17:35:06 GMT
Didn’t realise you went all the way to Swanage! You really are utterly mental at times. You should have stopped for a go on the steam train, my Dad works in he signal box down there. Anyway it sounds like you’ve got hours of fun ahead of you.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 19, 2018 6:33:36 GMT
🤪 Would you have expected anything less?!
I’ve seen the steam railway before when I’ve visited Corfe Castle some years ago, although I didn’t travel on it.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 19, 2018 14:52:44 GMT
I’ve made a start. Wheels, spring hanger nuts and rear prop shaft removed. Rear spring rear hanger bolts are free but the rear front hanger bolts are seized in the bushes. I’m going to need to resort to the grinder for those to get the axle removed from the vehicle. The U bolts will be cut off and along with the springs and shocks will be added to the scrap pile. Propshaft has a little play in the slip joint but I think it will be OK and the rear diff has very little backlash. Someone has been in there before as there is a tell tale bead of rtv gasket around the housing. It is wet around the pinion seal so that will need doing but that’s a cheap and easy job. The axle will get wire wheeled and painted in Buzzweld before going back on the car. I haven’t removed the drums yet to investigate but the near side brake is seized on. It’s getting new brakes as a matter of course in any case. I haven’t decided whether to go for a set of parabolic springs, or stuck with normal leafs. The normal leafs can take more load but the ride is harsher. Decisions needed. It looks a lot worse than it actually is. All the metal is solid, it’s just surface rust where the underseal has come off. The chassis is getting wire brushed and painted in the same stuff as the axles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 12:10:49 GMT
Looks like another one saved from the scrap heap. Good to see.
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 20, 2018 12:34:58 GMT
The normal leafs can take more load but the ride is harsher. Decisions needed. Depends on how many Nissans you intend to cart around in the back..... Seriously - depends on how you intend to use it; comfort over practicality or the other way around ("comfort" presumably being relative)
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Post by johnc on Aug 20, 2018 12:56:23 GMT
A great project and the end result will put a massive smile on your face every time you turn the key and the V8 fires up.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 20, 2018 14:15:26 GMT
A great project and the end result will put a massive smile on your face every time you turn the key and the replacement parts have been delivered. FYP.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 20, 2018 17:13:23 GMT
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Post by PG on Aug 21, 2018 12:42:22 GMT
You're cracking on at a fair old pace. Have you got lots of time on your hands as your wife won't let you back in the house since you bought it? ;-)
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 21, 2018 17:10:47 GMT
I’m still allowed in at the moment, but I may not be soon. It really needs a rear half chassis. That hole has already been repaired so it’s only going to go one way. A new half chassis is £300 plus I need someone to weld it. I’m not going to learn how to weld on something like that. All done with standard chassis and painted, I reckon it’s a £5k motor. Galvanised it will be £7.5k easily. It will be roughly the same again the strip the front in time which is about 16 hours. I’ve got some decisions to make.
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Post by Martin on Aug 21, 2018 18:05:37 GMT
I’ve got some decisions to make. Stick or twist? It was always going to need a chassis!
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 21, 2018 18:22:57 GMT
It has to be a new galvanised chassis, surely?
I think this was the outcome we were all expecting, but still well worthwhile.
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Post by cbeaks1 on Aug 21, 2018 18:30:04 GMT
Yep - do the full monty. Man maths makes it worth it and the values are likely to only go one way.
When LR do a Last of the Summer Wine V8 Truck Cab Continuation you will be quids in.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 21, 2018 18:39:47 GMT
Top of my bucket list was to build myself a car. This is a fraction of the cost of a cheap Caterham/Westfield. I’ll always get my money back if needed.
There is a three month lead time usually, so it will take a back burner for a while. I’ll get the axles off and refurbished and sort the springs ready for when the new chassis arrives.
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Post by Alex on Aug 21, 2018 19:27:08 GMT
Top of my bucket list was to build myself a car. This is a fraction of the cost of a cheap Caterham/Westfield. I’ll always get my money back if needed. There is a three month lead time usually, so it will take a back burner for a while. I’ll get the axles off and refurbished and sort the springs ready for when the new chassis arrives. To be fair, the premium you’d of paid for one that didn’t need a chassis balances out against what it’s going to cost you. With the Defender as your daily driver and the TVR as a weekend toy there’s surely no rush. Better to take your time over it and have a car at the end that is exactly how you want it to be,
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 21, 2018 19:54:12 GMT
Yes, I could break and sell bits for what I’ve paid for it. I’m not going to lose financially on it.
It’s less than what I sold the Toyota for so man maths dictates I’m still in profit.
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Post by Martin on Aug 21, 2018 19:56:48 GMT
Depends on how much value you put on your time.
However....sounds like it’s right up your street, great to tick something off the bucket list and you’ll end up with a vehicle you’ll enjoy.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 21, 2018 20:00:30 GMT
I’d rather be pratting about in the shed with a spanner in my hand than behind the desk doing paperwork.
My time is very valuable if I’m doing something I hate! 😂
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