Eco-Hatch

Wow, excellent work, very well done! I may need a strong coffee before attempting to digest the spec, or the bits of them I care about, buying cars SH I don't worry myself too much about it!

I love the current Panamera, and while I thought I would prefer the estate, I don't - to me the hatch Panamera ( and Taycan) look a lot better. I also think recent Porsche interiors are really good, I prefer their style to pretty much anything else out there that is vaguely attainable. So in my opinion you have done well 

I have been vaguely eyeing this model, idly as I reckon I have another 20k miles in the XFR before I get twitchy (its just been to Germany again for the nth time).  I may well be down a path at work soon (here or elsewhere) where I can't really not drive some form of hybrid at least, ideally an EV, as my main car. So while I would prefer the V8, the hybrid is a good step into the modern world.... So much of my work is related to carbon reporting/reduction in fleet, and electrification consultancy and the tech around it, I wince when anyone asks what I drive now. 

Panameras - second hand - almost look like good value now 911's start over £100k! Most shockingly I recently saw (having not bothered to look previously) that Taycan's start around £70k. That genuinely shocked me - I expected even the start point to be well into 6 figures given 911 prices. Did you consider one of them???

I suspect it will be somewhere close to £55k, but the values are now dropping at the rate I expected when I bought it, so it will be sub £50k by early Autumn.  

The base Taycan is only good for about 160/170 miles and even the big battery version struggles to get much more than 200 miles in real life, no matter what they say. With the lack of charging infrastructure you can't afford to drop below about 40 miles of range before you find a charger: it's just too risky.

I think its fairly well acknowledged that motorway/steady speed journeys are BEV's at their worst - carrying the penalty of weight without any regen to speak of so would expect a significant drop in real world range (25-30% I've heard as a reasonable adjustment in difference between 55-60 and 65-70 mph - go knows what the drop would be at 110mph but I expect a chunk more!

If you have the option to regularly charge a hybrid I think they are a good compromise for now

Any amusing thoughts on this one then:


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Its at first glance very similar to mine, except a lot of stuff that is black on mine is silver on this one, and the red leather is too light/pinky - and not a good call with red paint (especially as the Jag red is quite a deep one and not too similar to primary shool paint). 

I wish I could reset the mileage on mine to be like this one however, I would miss my 2500rpm / 120mpg - 20-25MPG cruise 

Yeah that's what I'll probably buy next afer looking at some hybrid/BEV options

If we ever do a meet I'll be keen to see Martin's new car as it is genuinely on the list...

They don’t charge you to paint the green callipers black, only if you have red ones. No idea why, but I’m just glad I have black ones.

I know I'm in the minority, but I do like to read the manual....mainly to ensure I don't miss any features/functions, but it's part of the new car experience imho.   If the handover + manual isn't enough, I've also had in invite to a follow up 'masterclass' session.  Not for me, but can see how it would be really useful.  When I collected my last couple of cars, I could have given the salesperson a masterclass.... 



My Connect account has been set up (car is in privacy mode until collection), which give access to an excellent manual which also includes an interactive section (click on a section or a picture) and loads of videos, so I've already started looking through the manual....

It does.  I have to say, it's been an excellent experience so far.   They were great right through the Boxster ownership period and it has been nearly 5 years since we have dealt with them, but I get the same warm feeling of being really well valued and looked after.   It's the same salesman who sold us the Boxster (20 yrs working for the same dealership) and he remembered the car with surprising detail.  

Having back to back Teams calls with only 30mins break between 7:30-3:30 helps, but at least I have something positive to think about on the ones that really drag..... 

We collected it early afternoon, the excellent service / experience continued. It was their 75th anniversary open day today, so there was a nice atmosphere and plenty of food. But when the time came for the unveil, we moved to the quiet (and nicely air conditioned) handover bay. Several gifts, flowers and a decent tour of the car including setting up Porsche Connect.

The only minor thing was there wasn’t any charge in the battery at all, but it did have a full tank of petrol so I’m not complaining.

I have only driven it 26 miles as time was getting on when we left, not helped by Lindsay having an hour in the Macan GTS I drove last week.   It was enough to remind me what a fabulous thing it is and we’ve got a day out planned tomorrow. 

It looked huge under wraps, but very curvy for a large car.

Just for Jeff….a small snapshot as I didn’t reset the computer until I was part way home.  The electric range was zero when I started, so all self generated.  I sat on the drive with the aircon on for a while when I go home which has impacted the avg speed. 

Lovely. Way more efficient than Eva by the looks of it, but no surprise from Porsche.

Very nice, love the Panamera

Mrs CB’s Uncle still has the V8S he bought new in Sept 2017. It’s a real shame they discontinued that diesel because it is a beast of an engine, that’s a big part of the reason why he’s not changed it.

I think it’s a bit less conspicuous than the RR, so I’m expecting to use it a similar amount and a lot more than a 911.