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Post by Eff One on Oct 27, 2022 9:38:41 GMT
The contrast stitching might be nice but the pricing is a joke! Porsche option prices as a whole are pure comedy. £200 for different coloured seatbelts made me giggle, as did charging £400 to have Boxster 18 inch wheels on a Cayman or vice versa. £1k or so for an LSD actually sounds like reasonable value until you remember that it should be standard on a £50k sports car with 300bhp.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 27, 2022 10:16:45 GMT
The contrast stitching might be nice but the pricing is a joke! I've had a few 3 series or 1 series with a grey contrast stitching against the black leather and it's a nice touch. Wouldn't pay for it though. That Copper Ruby colour is lovely.
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Post by Roadrunner on Oct 27, 2022 10:47:29 GMT
Both are great colours. I think I could be persuaded to go Copper Ruby for the rarity but as many clever folk say, rare is rare for a reason. One thing the Macan isn't short of is good wheel options. Cooper Ruby with tan and walnut would get the salesman sweating but I'd love it. Yes, that is probably an option I would go for, but I realise I am in a minority. The car looks equally good in the blue.
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Post by Tim on Oct 27, 2022 10:58:07 GMT
The contrast stitching might be nice but the pricing is a joke! I've had a few 3 series or 1 series with a grey contrast stitching against the black leather and it's a nice touch. Wouldn't pay for it though. That Copper Ruby colour is lovely. My last 3 series had black/dark grey stitching on red leather but I think the current car is red stitching and red leather. Both bought 2nd hand though so not my decision. A friend bought an ex-demo 911 last year that had double red stitching on black leather and was told the price of that was something ludicrous like £3k (my memory might not be 100% reliable on the amount).
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 27, 2022 11:05:05 GMT
Yes and the Saddle leather in my BMW also has some contrast pale stitching.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 27, 2022 11:10:38 GMT
Mayfair Porsche have a dark green GTS with brown leather for sale: finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsche-macan-gts-my21-preowned-8D2496But it is priced at the same as my new one (and will cost much more on the monthlies - about 50% more thanks to a higher APR and a lower GFV), and is the old 380bhp version where mine will have 440bhp… Plus the gold wheels are grim…ok so they can be repainted.
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Post by Martin on Oct 27, 2022 11:12:04 GMT
I've had a few 3 series or 1 series with a grey contrast stitching against the black leather and it's a nice touch. Wouldn't pay for it though. That Copper Ruby colour is lovely. My last 3 series had black/dark grey stitching on red leather but I think the current car is red stitching and red leather. Both bought 2nd hand though so not my decision. A friend bought an ex-demo 911 last year that had double red stitching on black leather and was told the price of that was something ludicrous like £3k (my memory might not be 100% reliable on the amount). On the 911 you can get crayon stitching with black leather for no extra cost, any other colour (about 20 choices iirc) is just over £2k so you’re not far out. Not quite as cheeky as the amount they charge for a GTS interior when you buy a GTS….£5,300 on a 911. That’s just under £3k for the trim + compulsory bits like full carbon interior). Back to the Macan, the GTS interior is a £2,700 option or £1,500 more than full black leather.
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Post by Martin on Oct 27, 2022 11:16:11 GMT
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Post by johnc on Oct 27, 2022 11:46:56 GMT
I could get (am) seriously excited by that 911 but I have decided that my priorities now lie in maximising my pension contributions, saving into ISAs and clearing the mortgage (currently only paying 1.89% with 2 years to go on a fixed term so I need to take some lumps out of it).
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Post by Martin on Oct 27, 2022 12:05:55 GMT
I could get (am) seriously excited by that 911 but I have decided that my priorities now lie in maximising my pension contributions, saving into ISAs and clearing the mortgage (currently only paying 1.89% with 2 years to go on a fixed term so I need to take some lumps out of it). I was quite excited about it as well, although Lindsay less so, dark green is almost as old man as dark red apparently….but it’s sold. They do have a Night blue one though if you change your mind!
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 27, 2022 12:47:55 GMT
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Post by Martin on Oct 27, 2022 13:10:44 GMT
I don’t like that interior at all. Would be much more acceptable (to me) if the upper half and steering wheel were black.
Double the cost of a Macan for a 911 GTS doesn’t sound too unreasonable to me, although I’d be more than happy with one specced to around £135k.
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 27, 2022 14:05:53 GMT
I don’t like that interior at all. That really is Nappy Interior brown. Dash needs to be black and needs lots of darker panels and lowlights.
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Post by PG on Oct 27, 2022 15:46:46 GMT
Seats can be any colour you like - within reason. But steering wheels and dash tops (and preferably the whole dash and the centre console and most of the door cards) must be black.
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Post by Eff One on Dec 12, 2022 16:22:34 GMT
Bullet bitten. Should arrive in December. Gentian Blue Full black leather 18 way seats Anthracite Chestnut wood trim GT Design alloys in Satin Platinum Panoramic roof Roof rails Standard air suspension Surround view camera Bose Wireless charging Heated steering wheel Heated windscreen Privacy Glass PDLS+ Sport Chrono in Bordeaux Red Collapsible spare wheel Power steering plus Porsche logo in black Are you still expecting it this month?
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Post by johnc on Dec 12, 2022 16:53:35 GMT
Quite possible picking it up as we speak - unless it is just as easy to leave it till January and make it a 2023 car.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 12, 2022 20:46:28 GMT
Don’t have a delivery date yet - due mid-Jan they hope.
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 14, 2022 21:35:54 GMT
I’m aware there is a problem with Bose which will have slowed down production.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 18, 2023 9:30:27 GMT
So the Macan is imminent but I have decided not to keep it - blame the Mini and no longer needing to drive to Italy.
But also the fact that they are going for quite a premium. If they weren’t, the decision might be different but they are, so given the change in needs, I am not going to ignore that opportunity to actually make some cash out of my car habit for once! Approaching this as you would the sale of a house, so have been out to about 10 dealers for quotes on an outright purchase vs SoR.
It’s fair to say interest is keen. OTR is £81k. Best offer so far for outright purchase is £85k. On SoR, the quotes for a selling price range from £90-97.5k, with £93k looking like it is probably about right. Commissions in the £4-5k mark fairly consistently.
What would you do? Sell outright for peace of mind and then try not to look at how much it is being resold for on Autotrader…? Or take a chance that SoR nets a bit more? I lean towards the latter but bear in mind that each month it doesn’t sell costs me about £200 in interest.
Also if anyone knows anyone who might want this car, I’d happily bung you something for an intro.
Before anyone says it, no selling privately is not something I want to do from my own house with a car of this value and theft appeal.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jan 18, 2023 10:08:05 GMT
Deffo outright purchase if you can. SOR is just free stock to a dealer and there's a whole internet full of issues of people getting paid. Who are you looking to SOR with, Porsche Dealers or independents?
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 18, 2023 10:14:16 GMT
Have you tried Tom Hartley?
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Post by Martin on Jan 18, 2023 10:17:41 GMT
Flippers..... Outright sale, I wouldn't even consider SOR for a potential couple of £k. It could sit around for weeks/months and easily not fetch more than £90k, which takes you back to broadly the same return that you'd get by selling immediately. I'm not surprised you've changed your mind as the reason for choosing it has changed, but am surprised that £4k / 5% of the purchase price is enough to swing the decision. What's plan B? Keep the 4 GC?
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Post by johnc on Jan 18, 2023 10:19:10 GMT
A bird in the hand. I think I would take the view that I am very fortunate that the change of mind isn't going to cost me money and if I can get something out of it I'd be very happy. I think chasing every £ profit through SOR is potentially dangerous and could in a worst case scenario leave you out of pocket for the full cost.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 18, 2023 10:21:52 GMT
I’ve sent the spec to TH. They’ve not yet replied. The £85k is from an OPC.
It’s currently between them and a well-known purveyor of upmarket motors just west of Guildford…
I also haven’t yet asked the supplying dealer if they want to bid to keep it. Wanted to do the market map first and then go back to them armed with what I think is the “right price” to see if they match or beat it.
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Post by johnc on Jan 18, 2023 10:33:37 GMT
Does this behaviour get you banned from buying another Porsche?
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 18, 2023 10:38:23 GMT
Does this behaviour get you banned from buying another Porsche? I don’t believe so, however nor do I particularly care if it does. It’s kind of clear it’s only because circumstances have changed.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 18, 2023 10:49:41 GMT
Flippers..... Outright sale, I wouldn't even consider SOR for a potential couple of £k. It could sit around for weeks/months and easily not fetch more than £90k, which takes you back to broadly the same return that you'd get by selling immediately. I'm not surprised you've changed your mind as the reason for choosing it has changed, but am surprised that £4k / 5% of the purchase price is enough to swing the decision. What's plan B? Keep the 4 GC? Yes, that’s the plan for now. It barely moves these days, and I don’t mind that on a car which isn’t costing me much bar a bit of depreciation, but it does seem a bit OTT to have a brand new £80k car on monthlies sitting in the drive going broadly speaking nowhere. £5k cash in hand equates at my marginal rate of tax to a bonus of nigh-on £10k, which is not to be sniffed at. Plus I also get back the deposit and a bit of tax rebate.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 18, 2023 13:02:51 GMT
Looks like a sensible and well thought out decision, especially against the temptation to keep a shiny new Porsche in the fleet.
It is also testimony to how good the GC is, in that you are happy to keep that instead.
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 18, 2023 14:01:42 GMT
Blimey. You'll need to change from "Racingteatray" to "The Fulham Flipper" as a forum penalty. Financially I can see your point, but obviously I also have an expensive new car sitting doing eff-all most of the year but then the Gorilla was never as cheap to run as the 4GC is. Sell it outright because, as said, yours will be the last one they push on SoR. After all the advice we all gave, glad that Mini is THAT good to cancel a Porsche over
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 18, 2023 15:36:50 GMT
Blimey. You'll need to change from "Racingteatray" to "The Fulham Flipper" as a forum penalty. Or the Peckham Pouncer.. Much as I love a new car and all that, it does seem like the right decision in this case. No point in having it sat there unused as you say.
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