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Post by michael on Jun 14, 2017 10:15:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 10:19:32 GMT
Looks like it was intended from inception, rather than an afterthought. I still prefer the saloon.
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Post by Martin on Jun 14, 2017 10:21:07 GMT
I agree, it does look like it was designed from the start, but I think it's a lot better looking than the Saloon, which looks terrible at the rear.
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Post by Tim on Jun 14, 2017 11:15:51 GMT
I prefer the rear of the original saloon but quite like this and the original sport brakes.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 14, 2017 11:21:08 GMT
I like that a lot and could happily see one on my drive in the future.
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Post by Martin on Jun 14, 2017 12:18:10 GMT
I like that a lot and could happily see one on my drive in the future. Purely based on a sit inside and poke around a saloon, I can't I'm afraid. The previous model had plenty of leather and suedecloth as standard to help lift the interior (wasn't quite enough for me last time) but the new one doesn't, all that comes at a price that makes it way too expensive. As an example, I could get a fully loaded 740d for £30 a month more than an XFS, just removing laser lights would get them down to the same price. Might be different at a couple of years old, but it will be a lot harder to find one with a really good spec. |
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Post by Ben on Jun 14, 2017 13:19:37 GMT
I think it looks cool.
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Post by michael on Jun 14, 2017 13:31:37 GMT
Purely based on a sit inside and poke around a saloon, I can't I'm afraid. Based purely on the quality of the dealers I'd have reservations. It's a shame that such a good range of cars is let down by Stratstone. |
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Post by Blarno on Jun 14, 2017 15:51:34 GMT
I like it as I liked the previous XF estate. Quite tempted to get one myself in a few years once the Saab has passed on.
Is there going to be an XE estate?
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 14, 2017 16:03:23 GMT
Jaguar probably have some nonsense about there being no need for an XE estate as that's what the F-Pace is for.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 15, 2017 7:32:31 GMT
It's apparently got a bigger load bay than the new V90 seats up or down and looks OK to me for an estate with sloping tailgate, but I still wonder what's happened to the proper large estate with near-vertical tailgate
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 15, 2017 8:17:17 GMT
V6 turbo petrol not coming to the UK. Big shame. So only 4 cylinder petrols.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 15, 2017 11:50:01 GMT
Not a big fan of the rear end.
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Post by michael on Jun 15, 2017 11:57:15 GMT
Not a big fan of the rear end. The old dear has one (S I think, nice wheels) which is thankfully black and disguises the unsuccessful D-pillar. Any other colour and they looks a bit Blue Peter. |
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 15, 2017 19:31:35 GMT
Supercharged V6 - which, in the UK, no one bought in the old XF or current XF saloons and no one would buy in the new Sportbrake. Even a headcase V8 would struggle to shift more than a handful of units.
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Post by Tim on Jun 16, 2017 8:43:27 GMT
Is that not slightly short-sighted given the obvious moves against diesel?
Or is it simple enough to introduce the bigger petrols to the range at some future point?
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 16, 2017 8:53:21 GMT
Supercharged V6 - which, in the UK, no one bought in the old XF or current XF saloons and no one would buy in the new Sportbrake. Even a headcase V8 would struggle to shift more than a handful of units. It's the limitation of choice that's annoying. If they make that engine for that car and presumably it has a European CoC why can't any raving lunatic go and order one in RHD UK spec? I assume they'd get no discount and have a production-line based wait but removing the choice altogether is insane. I also assume I will be seeing hundreds of these in the next month as they will be the Wimbledon qualifier and Championship tournament cars. |
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Post by Tim on Jun 16, 2017 9:17:40 GMT
Supercharged V6 - which, in the UK, no one bought in the old XF or current XF saloons and no one would buy in the new Sportbrake. Even a headcase V8 would struggle to shift more than a handful of units. I also assume I will be seeing hundreds of these in the next month as they will be the Wimbledon qualifier and Championship tournament cars.
If you want to see hundreds of something else then come up here when there's a golf tournament on at St Andrews, we're overrun with a year's supply of S Class Mercs plus several hundred Vitos.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 11:16:11 GMT
Prefer the old shape. The rear overhang on this one is fucking huge. No wonder it has 50/50 weight distribution, about a third of the car is behind the rear axle!
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 16, 2017 14:07:02 GMT
Why go to the trouble of engineering a variant which will sell in minimum numbers ?.
In theory, it should not be a huge expense to do a V6 petrol sportbrake as the power train is engineered for the saloon - but there is still an engineering programme cost to deliver one, which is wasteful if demand is pitiful or the engines can be used in other products (that V6 petrol goes in vast numbers of LR and RR products for international consumption).
In Europe and the UK, diesel backlash will affect older and smaller diesels first and foremost. Unless fuel costs and taxation policy changes significantly enough to affect EU6 standard vehicles, big 6 cylinder diesels will continue to be the default choice for large premium vehicles with pep because the fuel economy and performance balance is simply unbeatable.
There is always an argument for massive, shouty and ludicrously overpowered petrols, but the 330 - 380 bhp petrol sixes are a bit limp compared to the 300 bhp plus diesels.
All IMO of course
Disco 3 was available in the UK with a 4.4 v8, but I don't ever recall the 4 being offered with the 5.0 v8 or the 3.0 v6 s/c in the UK. Maybe as an SVO special build or an grey import.
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Post by michael on Jun 16, 2017 14:38:52 GMT
The V6 petrol is available in the new Discovery, is that proving popular?
I've just seen my first 5 series touring that happened to be a 530i.
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 16, 2017 22:11:14 GMT
I'm not sure - I was surprised it was engineered for the UK to be honest.
Discovery 5 is a big old girl and I am equally surprised the twin turbo v6d and v8d aren't options
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Post by michael on Jun 20, 2017 14:35:44 GMT
I'm not sure - I was surprised it was engineered for the UK to be honest. I imagine the Discovery is sold in large numbers in cities that are likely to be affected by sweeping ULEZ laws. They've really grown on me, I'm particularly fond of the dynamic pack. |
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 21, 2017 13:24:05 GMT
  Silicon silver with the dynamic pack and 22s. |
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Post by michael on Jun 21, 2017 13:28:24 GMT
Waitomo grey is how I'd do it but yes, I like that a lot.
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Post by Tim on Jun 21, 2017 13:56:42 GMT
That's the best I've seen but the numberplate still grates.
Also from the front shot the left rear looks to have loads of toe-in, probably just an illusion though?
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 21, 2017 14:57:15 GMT
Also from the front shot the left rear looks to have loads of toe-in, probably just an illusion though? Lens flare by the look of it; either that or CB or Mrs CB have kerbed it at high speed |
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Post by Martin on Jun 21, 2017 15:33:26 GMT
I honk I could learn to live with the stretched rear end, but not the number plate, that would really irritate me.
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 21, 2017 17:45:04 GMT
It's negative camber I can see, not toe-in - I think they sit when you leave them in access mode.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 22, 2017 7:59:47 GMT
I'm amused at the way that LR are copying Renault's alloy wheel designs !
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