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Post by Martin on Mar 30, 2022 12:48:23 GMT
Such as what? What you can get for under £50k with a special engine and decent amount of FG? Nothing. Without that amount of kit and with a smaller engine, then it’s a long list of course…. Looking just at big engined stuff, maybe a C63, an American import or from BMW…an X6M. I know which one I’d rather have!
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Post by Tim on Mar 30, 2022 13:48:28 GMT
I remember seeing one of those 790s in the same colour in the BMW showroom at Perth, probably around the time that one was registered.
I'm sure the discounted price was £89,995.
It's kept a surprising amount of that price but presumably that's benefitting from the Covid effect that so many cars have.
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Post by Martin on Mar 30, 2022 13:53:26 GMT
I remember seeing one of those 790s in the same colour in the BMW showroom at Perth, probably around the time that one was registered. I'm sure the discounted price was £89,995. It's kept a surprising amount of that price but presumably that's benefitting from the Covid effect that so many cars have. You used to be able to get 30% off so sounds about right. If used prices were ‘normal’ then us would be a £40k car at best.
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 30, 2022 16:18:29 GMT
Such as what? What you can get for under £50k with a special engine and decent amount of FG? Nothing. Without that amount of kit and with a smaller engine, then it’s a long list of course…. Looking just at big engined stuff, maybe a C63, an American import or from BMW…an X6M. I know which one I’d rather have! Sorry misread your post. Was thinking you thought there were plenty of alternatives!
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Post by Martin on Mar 30, 2022 16:22:05 GMT
Such as what? What you can get for under £50k with a special engine and decent amount of FG? Nothing. Without that amount of kit and with a smaller engine, then it’s a long list of course…. Looking just at big engined stuff, maybe a C63, an American import or from BMW…an X6M. I know which one I’d rather have! Sorry misread your post. Was thinking you thought there were plenty of alternatives! No, we can agree that a 12 cylinder saloon is quite rare!
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Post by PG on Apr 1, 2022 10:49:20 GMT
Such as what? What you can get for under £50k with a special engine and decent amount of FG? Nothing. Without that amount of kit and with a smaller engine, then it’s a long list of course…. Looking just at big engined stuff, maybe a C63, an American import or from BMW…an X6M. I know which one I’d rather have! Easy (for me) if I wanted to spend that sort of money - www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112150551678?. Jag XJR 575 in blue with black interior. Just needs to have the wheels refurbed in silver and you're good to go. Yes, it's not got a V12, but a 575bhp supercharged V8 is nearly as good. And yes, it will be well down on the FG count, but then it's not a luxo-barge, it's a Jaaaagg. But I take the point about pricing. It's gone silly. Last time I looked XJR's like that were cheaper.
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 1, 2022 11:21:37 GMT
Such as what? What you can get for under £50k with a special engine and decent amount of FG? Nothing. Without that amount of kit and with a smaller engine, then it’s a long list of course…. Looking just at big engined stuff, maybe a C63, an American import or from BMW…an X6M. I know which one I’d rather have! Easy (for me) if I wanted to spend that sort of money - www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112150551678?. Jag XJR 575 in blue with black interior. Just needs to have the wheels refurbed in silver and you're good to go. Yes, it's not got a V12, but a 575bhp supercharged V8 is nearly as good. And yes, it will be well down on the FG count, but then it's not a luxo-barge, it's a Jaaaagg. But I take the point about pricing. It's gone silly. Last time I looked XJR's like that were cheaper. Not in the same league I know, but I've been looking again at 5-series Tourings and the prices have stabilised/dropped quite noticeably over the past few weeks. Not as many about, granted, but more attainable for me if I decide to pull the pin.
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Post by Martin on Apr 1, 2022 14:11:39 GMT
Such as what? What you can get for under £50k with a special engine and decent amount of FG? Nothing. Without that amount of kit and with a smaller engine, then it’s a long list of course…. Looking just at big engined stuff, maybe a C63, an American import or from BMW…an X6M. I know which one I’d rather have! Easy (for me) if I wanted to spend that sort of money - www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112150551678?. Jag XJR 575 in blue with black interior. Just needs to have the wheels refurbed in silver and you're good to go. Yes, it's not got a V12, but a 575bhp supercharged V8 is nearly as good. And yes, it will be well down on the FG count, but then it's not a luxo-barge, it's a Jaaaagg. But I take the point about pricing. It's gone silly. Last time I looked XJR's like that were cheaper. I do have a soft spot for the XJR, but not one with black wheels, carbon fibre trim etc. I’d 100% choose the M760 and I think it looks decent value now!
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Post by johnc on Apr 15, 2022 8:51:14 GMT
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Post by Tim on Apr 19, 2022 9:01:42 GMT
I've seen one of those driving through Cupar a couple of times but unfortunately it has black wheels. It's a lovely colour though
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Post by Roadrunner on May 8, 2022 15:25:45 GMT
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Post by ChrisM on May 8, 2022 17:41:32 GMT
.... but the price is surely crazy
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Post by Big Blue on May 8, 2022 19:19:07 GMT
.... but the price is surely crazy Yeah you’ve got to really want that particular car to pay that much. I’d rather spend £20k on a car that needs £40k spent on it.
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Post by Andy C on May 8, 2022 19:23:19 GMT
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Post by Tim on May 9, 2022 8:17:26 GMT
That's a relatively low mileage, one owner car with a full history so probably never went below £10-15k. If its as good as it looks in the pictures then I think it's now a bargain at that price.
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Post by Big Blue on May 9, 2022 20:38:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 1:09:51 GMT
Are they worth ten percent of the price. I have a pair of Kickers boots out of the dustbin for Zilch. Cleaned, de salted and rehydrated with saddle soap and beeswax the only problem was some sharp hardened glue in the toe region which came off in about 5 seconds flat. Reuse, recycle, repurpose. Job jobbed.
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Post by Andy C on May 13, 2022 22:16:20 GMT
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Post by Martin on May 14, 2022 8:43:22 GMT
What time is the flight?!
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Post by johnc on May 14, 2022 12:48:35 GMT
It's a long time since I saw one of those on the road and in their day they were seriously quick and capable. I'm not sure that it is a future classic though.
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Post by Andy C on May 15, 2022 7:59:27 GMT
Never mind future classic, Mi16 is already a bona fide classic.
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Post by Big Blue on May 15, 2022 10:05:19 GMT
Yep Mi16 is a youngtimer classic.
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Post by Blarno on May 16, 2022 7:54:44 GMT
Thirded. I would love to have another one, but a 2WD model this time so it could spend more time on the road than on axle stands. There's an L plate purple one sitting under a tree in someone's garden that I pass every day on my way home. One day I will stop and ask what he's doing with it, becuase it's a shame to leave it there getting shat on by trees and birds. Granted, it's a 2.0 model so has a cat and less power than the 1.9, but it should have leather and more toys being a last of the line job.
They were pretty rare in the first place and a lot of them donated their engine so people could make their 205 GTis even faster.
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Post by racingteatray on May 16, 2022 19:50:39 GMT
Church's prices have gone nuts. I bought a new pair the other day - these ones in fact: www.church-footwear.com/gb/en/men/style/monk_straps/products.Polished_Binder_Monk_Strap.EOB014_9XV_F0AAB_F_000000.htmlI was not intending to, but my wife had dragged me to a local discount fashion warehouse near us in Italy, where idly browsing the menswear section to alleviate my boredom, I found a solitary pair of Westburys miraculously in my size looking orphaned with about three other random pairs of Church's shoes and stickered at "just" EUR240. Since black Church's monkstraps are what I unfailingly wear in the office with a suit, and I last bought a new pair in 2014 for our wedding, I pounced on them. I wasn't intending to spend £200 on shoes that day but, well, compared to the retail price here in the UK of £890(!!), it was an absolute no-brainer to grab them. One of the other pairs in the outlet looked pretty similar to those sneakers above and was similarly priced. They were also my size and very nice, but I wasn't about to fork out EUR480 on shoes.
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Post by Big Blue on May 16, 2022 20:15:53 GMT
Church's prices have gone nuts. yes, my thoughts exactly. Whilst not quite at John Lobb levels, the difference is Lobb make YOUR shoes on YOUR last which is why off the shelf casual shoes at that price is simply madness.
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Post by PG on May 24, 2022 20:17:13 GMT
Church's prices have gone nuts. I bought a new pair the other day - these ones in fact: www.church-footwear.com/gb/en/men/style/monk_straps/products.Polished_Binder_Monk_Strap.EOB014_9XV_F0AAB_F_000000.htmlI was not intending to, but my wife had dragged me to a local discount fashion warehouse near us in Italy, where idly browsing the menswear section to alleviate my boredom, I found a solitary pair of Westburys miraculously in my size looking orphaned with about three other random pairs of Church's shoes and stickered at "just" EUR240. Since black Church's monkstraps are what I unfailingly wear in the office with a suit, and I last bought a new pair in 2014 for our wedding, I pounced on them. I wasn't intending to spend £200 on shoes that day but, well, compared to the retail price here in the UK of £890(!!), it was an absolute no-brainer to grab them. Ye gods those prices are crazy. Even if I was still working, I'd find those prices hard to justify. I think I paid about £250 for my Church's monkstraps several years ago. I don't know what it is about them, but Americans all used to comment how great they looked. Maybe they never get them over there?
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Post by racingteatray on May 25, 2022 8:41:33 GMT
Oh absolutely. Before adding this third pair, I had two pairs of Church's monkstraps, bought respectively in 2011 and 2014 for definitely less than £300, and I've diligently always sent them back to Church's for resoling, which is expensive, but they do a very good job of bringing them back to life and you know they will be comfortable.
But eventually they will go back the point of no return and I had expected that to be that, what with their revised pricing, which is why I leapt on this pair like a starving leopard.
I like monkstraps (the single buckle variety - I've never quite liked the double buckle sort, which my father favours). You can slip them on and off, but they are less "louche European banker" than slip-ons/loafers.
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Post by PG on May 25, 2022 14:11:41 GMT
...I like monkstraps (the single buckle variety - I've never quite liked the double buckle sort, which my father favours). You can slip them on and off, but they are less "louche European banker" than slip-ons/loafers. I think that could also be "louche American". My ex boss (global CFO of a public company) was often seen in very expensive suits. But he always wore a pair of shoes that reminded me of cheap fake leather slip ons. Thus to my eye ruining the whole look. Or maybe it is only certain people, like me, who always look down at peoples' shoes when everyone is in formal attire (suits, dinner suits etc) to judge them......
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Post by Tim on May 26, 2022 8:04:28 GMT
...I like monkstraps (the single buckle variety - I've never quite liked the double buckle sort, which my father favours). You can slip them on and off, but they are less "louche European banker" than slip-ons/loafers. I think that could also be "louche American". My ex boss (global CFO of a public company) was often seen in very expensive suits. But he always wore a pair of shoes that reminded me of cheap fake leather slip ons. Thus to my eye ruining the whole look. Or maybe it is only certain people, like me, who always look down at peoples' shoes when everyone is in formal attire (suits, dinner suits etc) to judge them...... No, not just you. I'm often surprised at how many people in suits (I'm going back a couple of years now because the suit appears to be a dying breed post-Covid) would be wearing what appeared to be a £15 pair of plastic looking 'business' shoes that were also well overdue a polish. Having said that the shoe I wore to work most often was a (nicely polished) Dr Marten 1461 which occasionally elicited a comment. It's funny how so many people of a certain age equate Docs to the likelihood of the wearer kicking their head in
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Post by Grampa on May 31, 2022 21:52:51 GMT
I’ve yet to break the £40 barrier for a pair of shoes (apart from a custom made pair of Ugg boots for really cold weather) - I can’t imagine paying £300 let alone £890 - I’d forget I had them on, spot something under the car that warranted a look and scuff the hell out of them!
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