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Post by michael on Mar 2, 2018 11:39:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 11:57:50 GMT
I expected, wanted to like this but, meh. The doorless handles just look wrong, maybe in another colour.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 12:04:47 GMT
Could still work in a more sober colour, like the grey I seem to recall from the original renderings.
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Post by johnc on Mar 2, 2018 12:18:40 GMT
I can't see the production model having handle-less doors and I don't dislike it at all.
Nearly 400hp and a potential 250+ range make it a workable option for many. However price will be the telling point: at the £50K - £60K level it would sell like hotcakes, £60K - £75K it will do OK but over that it falls in to the niche occupied by Tesla which is never going to make it a mainstream vehicle. I have a few clients who have noted interest in the I-pace (one has a Tesla P85D) but he is beginning to suspect that it will be closer to £100K in which case he is out and is going back to a last fling with petrol. |
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Post by chipbutty on Mar 2, 2018 12:28:48 GMT
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 2, 2018 12:34:06 GMT
I really like it, inside and out. Shame about the piss-take pricing which Jaguar seems to have adopted right across the range now.
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Post by johnc on Mar 2, 2018 12:35:02 GMT
How much is "friends and family" discount?
EDIT: I got to £84,500 so I guess that's a no from me. Might be interesting to see how residuals hold up after a year.
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 2, 2018 12:54:14 GMT
I like it a lot design-wise, but the range is sadly still not enough and the price is sadly too much.
Edited to say I've just been on the configurator and the price is actually a piss-take.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 13:18:56 GMT
The grey is better, it appears narrower than SUV of late. The interior needs to grow on me possibly but is not bad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 14:02:46 GMT
I have to agree, those guys have been talking to Porsche and are in that price bracket. It seems yellow fluid extraction is popular beyond reality. They need a serious smack and reality training. I took the base car and using common sense and not selecting friparies the price went from £64k to over 72k. Fog lights extra ffs. Marketing folk at JLR are sniffing some serious carpet.
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 2, 2018 14:54:13 GMT
Sniffing carpet?
That's a new analogy on me!
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Post by PG on Mar 2, 2018 15:15:46 GMT
I love that. Faithful to the concept externally and the interior is a step up from the F-Pace. It looks like it is using a lot of the Range Rover second touch screen technology now. Although I note that Ian Callum says he likes tactility inside cars, so he'll never suggest to go all touchscreen.
It is more expensive than was mentioned last year, but then I guess a one off platform, contract built by Magnr is not a cheap way to go. I think a lot of people were hoping £50k ish would get them into one.
But then the question is what market is it aimed at? If potential Tesla owners - it looks priced about right. A Tesla S 75D starts at £64k and a S 100D starts at £84k. A Tesla X 75D starts at £70k and a Tesla X 100D starts at £87k. And it is comparable to a fully specced Velar for example. Of course it'll all be down to lease rates + BIK or PCP rates in the end, like nearly all new buys now.
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Post by Andy C on Mar 2, 2018 17:14:35 GMT
I think it looks awesome .
It's not slow either:
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Post by Andy C on Mar 2, 2018 17:26:06 GMT
Just had a play on the configurator.
Corris Grey is available. Good move.
You get the choice of clear or privacy glass. Even better move.
Although I can't believe you can have 18" wheels,right up to 22. The 18s look comically bad. 22s are £1600 extra, so I'd go with 20s
Windsor performance seats look great so I'd have them for £1400
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 21:15:33 GMT
I really like it, inside and out. Shame about the piss-take pricing which Jaguar seems to have adopted right across the range now. Ditto. With options one of these could be nearing 6 figures and that 300 mile range will be bollocks, too. Just had a play on the configurator, too. Came to 82 grand! |
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Post by Nelson on Mar 3, 2018 11:48:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 12:50:44 GMT
I've trimmed my configuration back from an HSE to an SE and it still comes out at £76K. build.jaguar/D9443E8CYou couldn't really go on holiday in one of these. For example, it's 270 miles from where I live to the Lake District. This car may or may not get there on a single charge and would certainly have you twitching towards the end of the trip if you tried. Then, when you get there, you'd have to find a public charging point, or plug it into a 13A outlet (if that's possible?), which'll take about 2 days to charge it up again. This means you're reduced to walking until it's juiced up again. |
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Post by PG on Mar 3, 2018 17:46:23 GMT
Finally got round to speccing one up. Started with SE and first attempt got to £82k. Then toned it down a bit and got to £77k.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 3, 2018 17:58:01 GMT
I don’t think price is really an issue with this. Wholly electric vehicles are still at the early adopter phase of their life cycle and there’s enough of those to ensure this’ll sell out. £50k ish would be nice but I suspect JLR couldn’t meet the demand at that price.
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 3, 2018 18:34:11 GMT
Some of the option prices are laughable, £6.5k for some of the leather seat options and a further £900 for an upgraded headlining. And some are reasonable - heated front screen, washer jets and steering wheel £370 I've got to 75 grand being conservative with options build.jaguar/4D65E11Bor not so conservative running out at £86k build.jaguar/2D0B810C |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 22:45:33 GMT
I just configured an XJ (SWB) which I would have over the I-Pace without even thinking twice. I went a bit nut but the engine was the V6 diesel. Base price, £59.995. £11,371 of options and a final price of £71,366. I went for the 300ps diesel because it has enough power but can be rather economical for the size. I thought about the petrol V8 because there is a part of me that say's, if you have the chance it would be daft not to and if I had the money, well my mileage is neither here nor there so not an issue but, the dark side tells me there is enough go in the diesel to AND to waft. Rather like the double headed penny. More car forless money and the added bonus that I prefer the XJ. Perhaps I am turning into an old git?
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Post by Martin on Mar 4, 2018 0:42:21 GMT
So, PCP cost. £10,000 deposit, 48 months, £1,316 a month.....  Even reducing it to second car mileage only drops the monthly payment to £1,216. I’m out. |
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Post by humphreythepug on Mar 4, 2018 8:46:14 GMT
So, PCP cost. £10,000 deposit, 48 months, £1,316 a month..... Even reducing it to second car mileage only drops the monthly payment to £1,216. I’m out. Wowsers, what's the balloon payment? |
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Post by Martin on Mar 4, 2018 9:24:49 GMT
So, PCP cost. £10,000 deposit, 48 months, £1,316 a month..... Even reducing it to second car mileage only drops the monthly payment to £1,216. I’m out. Wowsers, what's the balloon payment? It was around £22k iirc, interest rate of 6.9% doesnt help. |
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Post by PG on Mar 4, 2018 9:28:57 GMT
So, PCP cost. £10,000 deposit, 48 months, £1,316 a month..... Even reducing it to second car mileage only drops the monthly payment to £1,216. I’m out. That must be quite some spec? |
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Post by Martin on Mar 4, 2018 10:05:08 GMT
So, PCP cost. £10,000 deposit, 48 months, £1,316 a month..... Even reducing it to second car mileage only drops the monthly payment to £1,216. I’m out. That must be quite some spec? Not a full house, £82.something. Nothing I wouldn’t spec if ordering new. I left the wheels std (20s) and didn’t go for performance seats, so could have been another £70+ a month quite easily. I’d be quite seriously interested in this if the cost wasn’t so rediculous. I’m planning to balance the mileage a bit better across the fleet in the future so it could work for us Of the range is a genuine 200+ miles. Maybe if I was interested in having the latest thing or ‘impressing’ the neighbours / other people it might be worth it, but that’s not me. Edit: £82,465 with a residual value of £28k on 15k miles a year or £22.5k on 25k miles a year. |
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Post by Martin on Mar 4, 2018 11:17:54 GMT
Maybe not a particularly relevant or fair comparison, but you could have an XJR575 and use the just over £300 a month saving vs an I-Pace to help with the fuel bills.
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Post by PG on Mar 4, 2018 12:04:39 GMT
Maybe not a particularly relevant or fair comparison, but you could have an XJR575 and use the just over £300 a month saving vs an I-Pace to help with the fuel bills. More relevant is the comparison to a 380PS petrol S F-Pace. Loads of change v an i-Pace in monthly payments. |
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 5, 2018 11:01:30 GMT
The finance calculator on Jag's website assumes an annual mileage of 5k per annum.
Best described as "silly".
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Post by Big Blue on Mar 5, 2018 11:34:22 GMT
It's not the 300mile range that's a problem: mine "struggles" with that. The problem is that the Gorilla has 300mile range back again in 5-6 minutes using the Shell app and a petrol pump - the electric fleet doesn't.
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