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Post by bryan on Feb 21, 2018 21:23:10 GMT
I am not a great fan of KFC but I am finding barely believable that some people have allegedly been calling the police because they are out of chicken! It's not like there aren't enough fast food alternatives. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836From a professional perspective I find it equally hard to believe that a) KFC didn't have any contingency plans in place with Bidvest to keep the operation going in extremis and b) that DHL/QSL didn't have a robust plan in place to deliver the software/logistics to time or flag up slippage to enable a) to happen. I feel for them trying to sort out that high profile mess of rotting chicken and lack of driver/managers to run their new depot.
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Post by Martin on Feb 21, 2018 21:30:28 GMT
There’s clearly a lot more to it, not like it’s their first startup / contract take over. However, they did their best to make my life difficult when I took over one of their operations in Ireland and they’ve done the same elsewhere to some of my colleagues, so I don’t have a huge amount of sympathy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 21:31:49 GMT
It seems that they did not really believe they would get the contract but, that's show bizness folks. Another example of piss poor control over a whole heap of business area's. Enough, time for these organisations, with very well paid and expensed characters getting away with crap over and bleeping over. Enough, time for heads on pikes and real change. Having said that, the calling of the Police over a closed fast whatever establishment shows how low a lot of our population can go. Just what is the lowest measurable IQ? Among bipeds that can actually become vertical.
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Post by bryan on Feb 21, 2018 21:34:00 GMT
That's what I mean - it's not like it is the first time they have done a start up/take over so something mush have well and truly gone very wrong to get in this situation.
I don't feel sorry for the company but the poor sods on the operational floor trying to fix it all
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Post by Martin on Feb 21, 2018 21:44:13 GMT
That's what I mean - it's not like it is the first time they have done a start up/take over so something mush have well and truly gone very wrong to get in this situation. I don't feel sorry for the company but the poor sods on the operational floor trying to fix it all Yes, agree with you there, must be totally demoralising. It will be a PMs fault......
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Post by bryan on Feb 21, 2018 21:49:36 GMT
Always is
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Post by Alex on Feb 21, 2018 21:59:57 GMT
I blame Brexit.
Not sure what the problem is really, I can’t imagine ever wanting to eat KFC chicken anyway,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 8:11:21 GMT
Never set foot in one. I take it you meant to exercise forum dibs on the awful pun, which alas should have been 'fowl' business!
One might even say they had been winging it, beakcause the excuses offered seem poultry to me...
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 22, 2018 8:28:42 GMT
I have sympathy for the poor staff who will have to fend off idiots shouting about there not being any food to serve. The kind of numpty that rings the police because KFC have no chicken. Or the staff who won't get paid because they can't work. What concerns me more is where some of the restaurants will get hold of supplies and of what dubious quality it might be. Most of them are franchises and I suspect some are run rather less properly than others so who knows what "meat" you might end up with!
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Post by LandieMark on Feb 22, 2018 8:30:46 GMT
I can’t remember the last time I went into a KFC. The smell emanating from their extractors is usually enough to put me off going anywhere near.
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Post by PetrolEd on Feb 22, 2018 9:01:10 GMT
Had one 2 weeks ago. It's one of those things you don't have for 5 years and then suddenly you really fancy a bucket of grease and then afterwards can't work out what all the fuss is about.
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Post by PG on Feb 22, 2018 9:17:36 GMT
Press comment I read was that DHL had underbid v Bidvest. It moved from multiple depots used by Bidvest to one central depot to be used by DHL. Never mind DHL, who ever in KFC accepted that change and also accepted a big bang change over needs to be hung out somewhere. I wonder if franchisees can sue the brand owner for failure to deliver? ..the calling of the Police over a closed fast whatever establishment shows how low a lot of our population can go. Just what is the lowest measurable IQ? Among bipeds that can actually become vertical. We are at the stage where civilisation is a very thin veneer. No KFC and people call the police. I mean FFS! There will be rioting in the streets if they don't get it sorted soon. And imagine of KFC and Macct D both had issues at the same time. We'd all be doomed. And then next week, there'll be another report that fast food is killing everyone as they are obese.....
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Post by Big Blue on Feb 22, 2018 9:38:18 GMT
Yes the multi-point to single depot issue was raised and the fact that Bidvest are specifically a food mover as opposed to DHL who move anything, or not in this case.
As to KFC when Arsenal won 2-0 at Anfield in 1989 me and some friends had a 50pc bucket and some beer to tide us through the match (the greatest league match ever played in history). I then didn't eat KFC for well over a decade but am back in the swing now. Probably have it about 3 or 4 times a year, one reason being that I can walk to our local KFC which has been there since time immemorial (and was indeed the source of that fabled 50 piece bucket).
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Post by grampa on Feb 22, 2018 9:38:42 GMT
I find it hard to believe the KFC situation even made the news. I feel sorry for the KFC staff if they're not getting paid through no fault of their own (hopefully that's not the case, but I suspect it may well be), other than that, KFC being closed down is a bad thing?
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Post by Big Blue on Feb 22, 2018 9:48:45 GMT
I find it hard to believe the KFC situation even made the news. Have you seen other items in this week's news? People that have gone on a winter break and are playing games on the ice and in the snow winning medals (and one speed skater specifically failing to win any for the second holiday in a row) - none of that has any effect on anyone's life but their families' whereas no being able to have KFC is actually a "thing" in a lot of households. Don't get me started on Brits, Baftas, Oscars and other tripe: people being revered for basically making stuff up and then recording it.
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Post by grampa on Feb 22, 2018 9:55:02 GMT
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Post by Tim on Feb 22, 2018 9:56:29 GMT
I've never had a KFC.
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Post by Big Blue on Feb 22, 2018 10:01:14 GMT
FYP You've never experienced biting into a ball of meat and bones coated in a spiced batter and wondering as you crunch down on it whether that was a piece of chicken, and if so which part, or a rat that fell in the batter mix?
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Post by Tim on Feb 22, 2018 10:04:19 GMT
You've sold it to me, Russian Roulette with my food!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Feb 22, 2018 10:21:54 GMT
I am not a great fan of KFC but I am finding barely believable that some people have allegedly been calling the police because they are out of chicken! It's not like there aren't enough fast food alternatives. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836From a professional perspective I find it equally hard to believe that a) KFC didn't have any contingency plans in place with Bidvest to keep the operation going in extremis and b) that DHL/QSL didn't have a robust plan in place to deliver the software/logistics to time or flag up slippage to enable a) to happen. I feel for them trying to sort out that high profile mess of rotting chicken and lack of driver/managers to run their new depot. Despite the police tweeting not to call the police if there was no KFC open where you live they were unable to provide any evidence of anyone having done so. Looks like the kids doing the police's social media have been having a bit of fun. I was out to dinner the other night with a good friend who is ex-DHL (he's been having loads of fun texting ex-colleagues taking the piss out of them) and he was just astounded that not only had KFC taken the contract off a company who had been in the business of successfully delivering fresh food to catering businesses for 25 years but they had seen fit to give it to a company who had no experience in the field and had bid an artificially low price to try and get a foothold in the sector. Where was the due diligence by KFC to ensure contract terms could be met? A grand fuck up by all which will now go down in text books as a case of how not to do procurement. Certainly heads will be rolling in both KFC and DHL. BTW, have you ever looked at KFC's official twitter account and seen who they follow? All 5 Spice Girls and 6 blokes called Herb.
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Post by Andy C on Feb 22, 2018 11:59:49 GMT
Not a huge fan of KFC . Pay an extra £2 and you can get a Nando’s .
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Post by grampa on Feb 22, 2018 12:48:12 GMT
Whether it's a proper restaurant, a cafe or a takeaway, I would far sooner the much better quality and value provided by our local chip shops, independent take away pizza or burger places.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 15:50:25 GMT
The big problem I found on the few occasions when I visited a KFC was that I never got the food I ordered. I liked Popeye's chicken but they do not have franchises over here. All you can eat for the equivalent of a fiver and after more than twelve hours straight in the OR, we did a fair bit of that. I think the record was 17 pieces each. Never did get the seafood equivalent darnit. They had a milkshake that was like slightly loose ice cream, as Homer Simpson would have said, "AAAAAAAAAAAAGHLe". Memories.......
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Post by racingteatray on Feb 22, 2018 18:03:43 GMT
I like southern fried chicken as a rule (who doesn't?) but I haven't had a KFC in over 20 years. I felt so ill after the last time, that it put me off for life.
I'll confess it was hard to feel any sympathy for the peeved customers being interviewed by the BBC News outside closed KFCs. It's hard to conceive of many circumstances in which the only thing keeping you from dying of starvation is KFC.
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Post by PG on Feb 22, 2018 18:29:45 GMT
I like southern fried chicken as a rule (who doesn't?) but I haven't had a KFC in over 20 years. I felt so ill after the last time, that it put me off for life. I'll confess it was hard to feel any sympathy for the peeved customers being interviewed by the BBC News outside closed KFCs. It's hard to conceive of many circumstances in which the only thing keeping you from dying of starvation is KFC. +1 They interviewed some awful precocious child on the early evening news about how KFC was shut as was she annoyed or hungry? Quality investigative journalism....
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Post by LandieMark on Feb 22, 2018 21:06:32 GMT
Proper southern fried chicken is lovely. KFC is garbage in comparison to the proper stuff.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 23, 2018 8:27:59 GMT
I am not a great fan of KFC but I am finding barely believable that some people have allegedly been calling the police because they are out of chicken! It's not like there aren't enough fast food alternatives. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836From a professional perspective I find it equally hard to believe that a) KFC didn't have any contingency plans in place with Bidvest to keep the operation going in extremis and b) that DHL/QSL didn't have a robust plan in place to deliver the software/logistics to time or flag up slippage to enable a) to happen. I feel for them trying to sort out that high profile mess of rotting chicken and lack of driver/managers to run their new depot. Despite the police tweeting not to call the police if there was no KFC open where you live they were unable to provide any evidence of anyone having done so. Looks like the kids doing the police's social media have been having a bit of fun. I was out to dinner the other night with a good friend who is ex-DHL (he's been having loads of fun texting ex-colleagues taking the piss out of them) and he was just astounded that not only had KFC taken the contract off a company who had been in the business of successfully delivering fresh food to catering businesses for 25 years but they had seen fit to give it to a company who had no experience in the field and had bid an artificially low price to try and get a foothold in the sector. Where was the due diligence by KFC to ensure contract terms could be met? A grand fuck up by all which will now go down in text books as a case of how not to do procurement. Certainly heads will be rolling in both KFC and DHL. BTW, have you ever looked at KFC's official twitter account and seen who they follow? All 5 Spice Girls and 6 blokes called Herb. Maybe no evidence but it really wouldn't surprise me. Even an MP was being contacted by "disappointed" constituents.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 12:15:13 GMT
"Maybe no evidence but it really wouldn't surprise me. Even an MP was being contacted by "disappointed" constituents".
Did they leave a name or were they too chicken?
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Post by ChrisM on Feb 23, 2018 13:56:33 GMT
^ Maybe they just wanted to ruffle his feathers?
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Post by Big Blue on Feb 23, 2018 14:12:51 GMT
Was it a Minister or just some small fry MP?
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