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Post by Martin on Jan 22, 2022 12:49:37 GMT
One of our lorry drivers upset a car driver ion a busy roundabout on the A27 at the busiest time of the day. It’s not clear from the camera in the cab what happened to cause the upset, but the car driver pulled in front on the dual carriageway, brake tested our lorry (pretty stupid….) then spent the next 2 miles weaving around, flashing hazards, braking etc. Our driver didn’t react in any way, just carried onto store. He pulled into the small yard at the back of the store, got out of the cab and there was the car driver….he punched him in the face twice!! Unbelievable.
We’ve also had teenagers throwing bricks at a driver as he was taking cages off the tail lift and a market trader shoving a driver in the chest because he was unloading (late due to an accident on the way there) in the space where he normally parks his van and wouldn’t move immediately (he only had one more pallet to get off, so 5, maybe 10 mins max).
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Post by Alex on Jan 22, 2022 12:57:28 GMT
All those people would also be happy to complain if supermarket shelves were empty. In your first instance the trucker probably pulled out onto one of the roundabouts at one of the very few opportunities available to 44t HGVs just as the car driver was trying to use the roundabout as an overtaking opportunity to get ahead of traffic.
Judging by dash cam footage that gets sent to YouTube this seems to be what normally upsets car drivers who struggle to understand that a HGV that forever gives priority to everything coming from their right will never get onto a roundabout and that junctions are not all about priorities, we do have to ensure all road users and routes can flow.
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Post by Martin on Jan 22, 2022 13:09:39 GMT
All those people would also be happy to complain if supermarket shelves were empty. In your first instance the trucker probably pulled out onto one of the roundabouts at one of the very few opportunities available to 44t HGVs just as the car driver was trying to use the roundabout as an overtaking opportunity to get ahead of traffic. Judging by dash cam footage that gets sent to YouTube this seems to be what normally upsets car drivers who struggle to understand that a HGV that forever gives priority to everything coming from their right will never get onto a roundabout and that junctions are not all about priorities, we do have to ensure all road users and routes can flow. Exactly right. Based on his subsequent actions, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was trying to push ahead.
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Post by johnc on Jan 22, 2022 13:18:33 GMT
I presume the Police will now be taking action for assault.
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Post by Martin on Jan 22, 2022 13:52:07 GMT
I presume the Police will now be taking action for assault. We should hear back on Monday, but they have been given video evidence, so I hope so.
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Post by Blarno on Jan 28, 2022 8:50:09 GMT
Weapons grade whopper in a Fiesta Zetec this morning. Approaching the Mersey Gateway, I was in the outside lane, overtaking as I do, 65 showing on the speedo (It's a 60, but meh). Fiesta boy (Definitely boy. Fresh faced little rat) comes steaming up behind to the point where I can barely see his headlights, weaving side to side. He was unable to undertake as, surprise surprise, there were cars in the inside lane, os he continues to try and intimidate me. Trust me son, there is nothing intimidating about a 1 litre Fiesta. By this point we are on the Mersey Gateway and as there are no speed cameras, the general consensus is to drive at 70, so I up the cruise to 75 and continue overtaking the cars on the now middle lane. (The far left lane is a filter lane than runs the entire length of the bridge). Fiesta scrote decides at this point to veer wildly across to the left lane and accelerate as fast as a little engine can past a few of the cars, until a helpful van pulls into the filter lane. This clearly angers him as how dare someone get into the lane they need, he then dives back into the middle lane and slams on before he goes into the back of the car in front. As there is no space in the outside lane because the sensible among us are happily overtaking, he shimmies back into the left lane and proceeds to attempt to power (!) past the traffic. He pulls back in eventually in front of me having gained a total of 1 car length.
It's at this point I see the dashcam in his windscreen. This helmet is actually recording himself being a bellend!
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Post by rodge on Jan 31, 2022 9:38:35 GMT
Weapons grade whopper in a Fiesta Zetec this morning. Approaching the Mersey Gateway, I was in the outside lane, overtaking as I do, 65 showing on the speedo (It's a 60, but meh). Fiesta boy (Definitely boy. Fresh faced little rat) comes steaming up behind to the point where I can barely see his headlights, weaving side to side. He was unable to undertake as, surprise surprise, there were cars in the inside lane, os he continues to try and intimidate me. Trust me son, there is nothing intimidating about a 1 litre Fiesta. By this point we are on the Mersey Gateway and as there are no speed cameras, the general consensus is to drive at 70, so I up the cruise to 75 and continue overtaking the cars on the now middle lane. (The far left lane is a filter lane than runs the entire length of the bridge). Fiesta scrote decides at this point to veer wildly across to the left lane and accelerate as fast as a little engine can past a few of the cars, until a helpful van pulls into the filter lane. This clearly angers him as how dare someone get into the lane they need, he then dives back into the middle lane and slams on before he goes into the back of the car in front. As there is no space in the outside lane because the sensible among us are happily overtaking, he shimmies back into the left lane and proceeds to attempt to power (!) past the traffic. He pulls back in eventually in front of me having gained a total of 1 car length. It's at this point I see the dashcam in his windscreen. This helmet is actually recording himself being a bellend! It wasn’t a black Fiesta was it? I had the same happen to me yesterday. Now bear in mind, I’m in a 19 year old Fiesta so look like a decent target for him, but have over 30 years of driving experience, not to mention the years of driving off roads before then. Turns out it’s very difficult to get past a car that’s driven well, safely and with the flow of the traffic. The other driver did the left lane thing too, cutting in ahead of the traffic later on. I was driving in the city yesterday and there was a cyclist in the right lane, holding up traffic, killing themselves at 25mph as they were turning right further down the road. Lance could have just crossed at the pedestrian lights where he was turning right instead of putting himself in such danger.
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Post by Blarno on Jan 31, 2022 11:22:54 GMT
It was actually a black Fiesta.
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Post by Boxer6 on Feb 14, 2022 11:44:40 GMT
I know I've mentioned this before, but it happened again on Friday with potentially disastrous results. My commute to work really begins with accessing the slup road onto the M80 near our house. On Friday however, instead of moving out to that (left) lane and heading for Glasgow, I had to move into the right lane to collect something from a friend. So, white BMW (I know, right?!) coming down the inside (left) lane slows down . . . and down . . . flashing his lights like mad to "let me out". Great, on a normal day. Unfortunately despite my indicating right and not moving, he persisted, almost stopped by now and with traffic racing past him in the lane I need to be in! I had to put the window down and wave my arm wildly at him both to reinforce my intention to get over to the other lnad AND to get him to move on, otherwise he was likely to end up as the meat in a rather messy metallic sandwich - with me as the other 'slice'! I get that some folk try to be "nice" and courteous, but that's taking the biscuit.
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Post by johnc on Feb 14, 2022 12:29:40 GMT
Coming back from golf on Sunday morning I joined a queue of 3 cars behind a pedal bike. Immediately behind the bike was a Hyundai i10 (I think). The road is fairly twisty with lots of ups and downs as well, so passing a bike is a one car at a time job apart from a few short but slightly longer straights. After 3 or 4 overtaking opportunities were passed with no movement from the i10, I resigned my self to sitting there for 3 or 4 miles until I reached one of the roads I can turn down.
As the bike was half way up a 100yd incline with a blind left hander at the top, the i10 pulled on to the other side of the road and started to overtake at bike + 5mph speed. I slowed down and fell back, fearing that there was going to be an almighty head on collision at any moment. Thankfully that didn't happen but it goes to show that the decisions some people make when behind the wheel defy all logic and really these people would make the world a much safer place if they just took the bus or train.
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Post by LandieMark on Feb 15, 2022 14:36:55 GMT
On the way into the village this morning. I don't know how he managed that unless he was staring at his phone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 14:59:05 GMT
These new Land Rovers can go anywhere, not always where you want them to tho'.
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Post by Martin on Feb 15, 2022 15:21:31 GMT
Is it like Roadkill Mark? You claimed it, so a quick winch out and it's back at your house?
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Post by LandieMark on Feb 15, 2022 16:22:28 GMT
🤣 The front end was, rather unsurprisingly, pretty well smashed in having hit a stone parapet at some speed.
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Post by Boxer6 on Feb 15, 2022 17:46:49 GMT
On the way into the village this morning. I don't know how he managed that unless he was staring at his phone. I suspect you answered your own question there!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 13, 2022 21:17:25 GMT
Seen some shockingly poor emerges from junctions recently and I reckon they are getting worse. The "Can't Wait, Won't Waits" are increasing in number.
Worst so far was a Rav4 that turned right out a junction, ahead, on my right, as I approached at 40 in the 40 limit. They were clearly unconcerned whether something might be coming and didn't let the left turning artic, turning out of the same junction and completely blocking any view for them, put them off. Had I been a couple of seconds earlier it would gave been a very near miss indeed. God forbid there might have been something like a motorbike or an emergency vehicle approaching faster.
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Post by Tim on Mar 14, 2022 9:10:26 GMT
Similar happened to me recently - a van pulled out of a side road in front of me but didn't pull onto my side of the road, he initially went into oncoming traffic (although the road was empty), then accelerated VERY slowly and eventually pulled across to the correct side. This was on the main road about 3/4 mile from my house and I was approaching at about 60. When he initially pulled out I had to brake so hard that the hazards came on. So much for DRLs
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Post by ChrisM on Apr 8, 2022 21:28:03 GMT
I've just about seen it all now.....
on my way to work this morning I was caught in a very slow moving queue of traffic for the last couple of miles. I thought at first it was maybe caused by a cyclist (narrow windy country lane with few opportunities to pass) but as stuff went past I could see that the moving obstruction was a black 1-series closely followed by a silver C-class, both with hazard lights on. Initially I thought that the BMW was towing the Merc, but as I got closer I could see that the gap was varying. When I reached number 1 in the queue and got past, I could scarcely believe what it was.... the BMW was being driven at 5mph on 3 tyres and front offside rim - no sign of a tyre, and the C-class was providing a "safety" buffer.
Perhaps Stu can comment on whether it warranted a call to 999 or 101
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Post by Boxer6 on May 10, 2022 9:44:16 GMT
Coming home on Sunday from our caravan, and got to the roundabout on the A9 that takes you to Bridge of Allan or Doune, as well as continuing South and home. I was in the right-hand lane to go straight on, with a Passat hatch to my left. We both moved off from the give way line at the same time, whereupon he decided he was going to 'straight line' the roundabout despite the fact I was right beside him!!
Cue blasting of horn (from me, obviously) with no reaction at all that I could see from him, deduced from the fact that while I backed off, he did not! Instead, he kept on moving over to the right, and by the time we reached the 'straight' part of the main carriageway, he was fully in the right-hand lane!!
I wasn't going to bother with a dashcam, despite the recommendations from Mark a while ago, but I think that incident has changed my mind!
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Post by Roadrunner on May 11, 2022 8:50:04 GMT
Today's villain was the driver of a German artic who attempted to turn right from the left hand lane of a dual carriageway roundabout near my office. In doing so he took out an Audi Q2 which was going straight ahead from the right hand lane. It completely spun the Audi around, leaving it straddled across the of middle of the exit carriageway.
This all happened right infront of me so I pulled over to assist. Cue much arm waving and shouting from the lorry driver that he should be in the left lane because he is in a "grosser vehicle". A few photos and exchanging of details and we were on our way. This was on a busy roundabout near where the M69 and M6 unload into Coventry, so I expect the tailback nearly wrapped around the planet. Fortunately I was ahead of that lot...
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 10:29:23 GMT
Those vehicles do need more space to turn. Did he indicate or notify his actions or not? Being aware of what is going on around us is part of driving with due care and attention so it goes both ways there.
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Post by Roadrunner on May 11, 2022 11:31:53 GMT
Those vehicles do need more space to turn. Did he indicate or notify his actions or not? Being aware of what is going on around us is part of driving with due care and attention so it goes both ways there. It is a big roundabout connecting two stretches of duall carriageway, so plenty of space to turn. I think the issue here is the German driver's lack of experience on how to use roundabouts. That and the fact that he clearly wasn't using his mirrors.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 12:47:47 GMT
That will do it but having had a near similar experience was informed by plod that in their opinion, I would have been the guilty part by not appreciating the actions of the HGV driver. They do take a lot more space to turn and I had given the other guy more space.
We had an Irish salesman in Catterick mil hospital when his car was run over by an artic turning left from the right hand lane due to turning circle requirements. Despite the HGV indicating left the salesman went up the near lane next to the HGV. HGV driver could not see him. Cue one nearly dead salesman and he blamed the other guy too.
I suppose my point is "Why argue a position that that when you will always come off worse"? A bit like cyclists weaving in between cars hoping the car driver will be able to stop in time and thinking that because they believe they are in the right, they will be safe. When you are brown bread, being right in your head has a different association.
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Post by rodge on May 15, 2022 17:53:58 GMT
Was driving back from my kids school yesterday- they had an open day for the parents- and minding my own business, on a straight road that had a side road joining it, when a driver of a 7 series decided he wanted his car to be in the side of mine. I was on the main road driving across the top of the T junction and he only missed me because I blew the horn for about 3 seconds solid. I’m not sure where he was looking but how do you miss a Mondeo Wagon on a sunny day that’s right in front of you?
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Post by Tim on May 24, 2022 7:44:21 GMT
Had to go to St Andrews late afternoon yesterday, for the final couple of miles I was behind a light truck which was in turn behind a bright orange McLaren (no idea what model, except it wasn't an F1 and a dark blue Lambo Ovendoor (possibly, might've been a Hurracan). The last couple of miles to St Andrews are a 50 and the 2 supercars were doing that or less - including braking for the corners that you could take at 70 in a 2CV with bald tyres and knackered shocks. The reason for their caution and, I assume, fuel conservation became obvious once into St Andrews - cue several bouts of lots of throttle followed immediately by lifting off and a volley of cracks that probably had any Ukrainians diving for cover. St Andrews doesn't have particularly wide roads and you're straight into the town from this direction. These types of wankers are a big part of why I have zero interest in modern supercars.
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Post by rodge on May 29, 2022 8:37:18 GMT
Discovered yesterday that someone hit my car when it was parked, damaging the front fog light housing and scratching the bumper in 2 places, including a gouge in the bumper. The car has been parked up all week and my wife suspects she knows who did it. But we’ve no proof. It’s no biggie but it is annoying.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2022 10:05:55 GMT
Is it worth a quiet approach or is the suspect likely to go rainbow warrior?
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Post by rodge on May 30, 2022 22:39:48 GMT
Is it worth a quiet approach or is the suspect likely to go rainbow warrior? Quiet approach would probably be best but the guy who did it probably isn’t even aware that he did. He was driving a lawnmower (the place we are staying right now has a Jack of all trades who does things like that) and he isn’t the most aware of people under normal circumstances. The quality of the lawn cutting is testament to that. I need to make sure the car is parked way out of the way of him in the future.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 6, 2022 7:31:35 GMT
Discovered yesterday that someone hit my car when it was parked, damaging the front fog light housing and scratching the bumper in 2 places, including a gouge in the bumper. The car has been parked up all week and my wife suspects she knows who did it. But we’ve no proof. It’s no biggie but it is annoying. I had an (un)lucky break last weekend in as much someone at the golf club scuffed my car down the nearside wing, passenger door, denting it in the process. Obviously no one owned up and CCTV was too car away. The lucky break was that the car was a service loaner BMW 1 series and I had taken out the reduced CDW for £15 as the excess was £750. Took it back and it cost me £50. Annoyed at the £50 but relieved it wasn't my car as I'd now be looking at a repair and polish.
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Post by johnc on Jun 16, 2022 7:17:55 GMT
My next door neighbour! He is a bit of an eco warrior and used to have a BMW electric scooter and still has an electric skateboard (as well as spending over £250K turning his house into a totally sealed eco one)
I live at the end of a cul de sac at the top of a hill and I am aware that my car creates a bit of noise in the morning, so my normal routine is to put the exhaust to "quiet" before I turn it on and then to let the car run down the hill at tickover so I cause minimum irritation.
Unknown to me, my neighbour has bought himself an electric bike - it looks a bit like an old sit up and beg/Mary Poppins bike and this morning, just as I got to the bottom of the cul de sac to turn left at the give way, he appeared out of nowhere at speed and overtook me up the inside just as I was turning the corner. He was lucky he didn't get knocked off. He then took off at high speed and hardly slowed down for any of the three subsequent give ways. I didn't even look in my mirror going down the cul de sac because I start at the end and there should be nothing coming from behind.
This is the same guy who overtook my wife around the outside of a roundabout which is only one lane causing her to do an emergency stop because two into one doesn't work at the exit. The fact that it is less than a mile from the house and in a 30mph limit just made his actions even more stupid.
I am going to have words when I see him next.
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