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Post by johnc on Dec 5, 2023 16:53:00 GMT
Not anywhere outside central London. About 20 years ago in a Glasgow pub I had a guy come up and ask the time. It was an instinctive reaction to look at my watch and of course he got to see it. It was quite obvious that he was just looking to see what it was and if it was any good (an automatic Tag Heuer, so not fantastic but maybe enough to steal) Thankfully there were about 8 or 9 of us and they were all good enough to leave with me at the same time to give some safety in numbers.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 6, 2023 8:47:42 GMT
I’ve got a 16233 that I’ve had since 2008 (which my dad bought new in 1993 and I swapped him my submariner for). Even though I mainly work from home, I wear it all the time because I love looking at it and it’s extremely durable. Rolex built their reputation on robust, reliable and accurate precision automatic watches and I find such things absolutely fascinating - they have become twonk baubles but I won’t let that put me off. If I have a trip to London, I would probably not take it, but I avoid London at all costs anyway. I don’t know what’s more dispiriting about that BBC article, the fact that the tea leaves are so brazen as to talk to a reporter or the fact that they are so unlikely to get caught. The use of violence to steal extremely valuable items is despicable and it should be treated as such by the law.
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 6, 2023 9:23:53 GMT
You can see why rich people move to Monaco and live out their days in a 2 bed flat.
I had my watch stolen off my wrist in Barcelona last month. It was only a Seiko but I had got into modifying Seikos (its a scene) and it looked very similar to a Rolex Daytona Panda. Anyways first day someone just walked past and tore it off my wrist and befroe I knew what was happening he ducked down a side street and was gone.
My only comfort is that fact he thought he's had a 20k watch away when in fact it was my dodgy Seiko copy worth all of £200.
I do like watches, always wanted a Panerai but your opening yourself up for trouble. And What's the point in wearing a cheap modified watch if your local mugger can't tell the difference.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 6, 2023 9:47:28 GMT
Manufacturing technology and investment has moved on to such an extent that you can get a swiss made automatic watch that is 85% - 90% of the quality of a Rolex for 5% of the cost. Steinhart make the most fantastic submariner homages - I had one in 2014 and it cost me €315 delivered. The quality was amazing for the price www.steinhartwatches.de/en/diver-watch/diver-watch-39mm/ocean-39-green.htmlChina is now knocking out super fakes that are almost impossible to differentiate unless you can open them up to check (some excellent comparison videos on youtube). If I didn't have one now - I think I would baulk at buying one today given the pricing and availability. Although the current bi-metal Explorer is absolutely beautiful...
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 6, 2023 12:05:05 GMT
You can see why rich people move to Monaco and live out their days in a 2 bed flat. I had my watch stolen off my wrist in Barcelona last month. It was only a Seiko but I had got into modifying Seikos (its a scene) and it looked very similar to a Rolex Daytona Panda. Anyways first day someone just walked past and tore it off my wrist and befroe I knew what was happening he ducked down a side street and was gone. My only comfort is that fact he thought he's had a 20k watch away when in fact it was my dodgy Seiko copy worth all of £200. I do like watches, always wanted a Panerai but your opening yourself up for trouble. And What's the point in wearing a cheap modified watch if your local mugger can't tell the difference. How unpleasant. We saw this happen in Barcelona when we were there a couple of years ago. Guy grabbed someone's steel sports watch as they were standing outside a shop in a narrow street and then hared off up the street. A women tried to block him and he pulled an astonishingly violent Jean-Claude van Damme-style kick-box move on her. Unfortunately for him, they both went crashing to the ground and before he could get up several large male onlookers piled onto him and did a sort of citizen's arrest.
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Dec 6, 2023 14:12:48 GMT
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Post by theotherct on Dec 6, 2023 14:12:48 GMT
I have a Steinhart it has been very good over the last 7 years. I have thought about upgrading to a 'proper' one but the inflated values and targeted thefts has put me off. In fact, earlier this year the lume started to fail and I was going to get a new bezel that is closer to the Rolex font but decided against it so to reduce the attention. I carefully removed all the lume and actually prefer the look. Apart from the lume, there no damage despite wearing daily despite what the camera has picked up!
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 6, 2023 16:42:45 GMT
I am not really into watches in a big way, but do appreciate clever engineering, so I was pleased to receive this vintage Omega Geneve f300 'tuning fork' watch as a gift, recently. If you put it to your ear you can hear the tuning fork quietly humming.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 17, 2024 13:58:23 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 17, 2024 14:55:38 GMT
Yes, I have a Milgauss, but I have the modern version, which is worth much less!
The original Milgauss, launched for CERN scientists or something like that, which is what you are referring to, was not a great success in era and therefore later become a cult model.
Rolex caused a stir in 2007 by reintroducing a modern version of the Milgauss in three versions, one with a black face, one with a white face, and one with a unique green glass face (which I have). Initially it was very hot property and very hard to get hold of, but it never went on to become one of the really valuable and sought-after models, probably because it's not as sober-looking as most steel Rolexes and thus a bit marmite. In fact I gather it has a reputation for being a bit of a "geek's Rolex" - indeed James May wears a white-face one.
Anyway, Rolex discontinued the Milgauss again last year, so it's expected to become an investment piece in due course, but at the moment there are plenty around and you'd have no trouble picking one for £9-10k (which isn't much more than its last RRP, which I think was £8,750).
The second-hand market for top-end steel sports watches has definitely had a correction - I think if you'd bought a used one at the top of the market about 2 years ago thinking it was an investment, you might be quite upset.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 17, 2024 15:28:45 GMT
Ah well.........no point in me asking for the lend of a fiver then..
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