Rishi or Liz?

Both are wrong in my opinion. Rishi just comes across as a bit arrogant and a snob and Liz I have it on good authority is more then a little slow and has all the charisma of a damp cloth.

I kind of agree. It was interesting that a poll of 250k readers of the Times favoured Sunak 89% vs 11% for Truzzz.

That's exactly why she's probably going to be the one who takes his mantle. It's going to be a rough couple of years with the cost of living making us all poor.

I've voted for Sunak. Truss has zero substance IMO

Having previously resided in the depths of Conservative country (Godalming, Haslemere and Milford in that order) I reckon Truss has about 95% of the vote there. I went to Brook fete (a madly expensive village between Haslemere and Godalming) with my dad and the boys years ago and he said “what do you notice about everyone here?”

The answer was no one was darker than a ripening peach. I’m sure I’m other communities that won’t be the case as many of colonial extract are pretty conservative but not round that way.

I've forfeited my eyesight in this poll too.
Of the two dismal candidates, Ms Truss in my opinion is the marginally less untrustworthy.

The campaign so far has shown how riven by division the Conservative party is. The Thatcherites versus the Cameron-new-Blairites or whatever you want to call it. But then so is the Labour party between the new-labourites and the diehard-old labourites and the nutter-leftists.

Truss being in the Cabinet and not walking out when tax was raised and now saying "I want to lower tax" is probably the same politically as Starmer being in a shadow-cabinet that tried to get Corbyn into power and then had him removed from the Labour whip for being an anti-Semite.

Why the fuck would they want to do that? Do you think they give an inkling of a shit about you and I or how rubbish all our lives are about to become this winter? They've not given a toss about the dramatic fall in living standards their governance has led to over the last 12 years so I don't see them starting now.

Definitely Rishi. Truzz, or Mrs Beige as I call her, has made up policies on the hoof during hustings and Q&A's with other audiences. Yesterday, someone asked her if Kemi Badenoch would serve in her cabinet. Liz nodded, so its a completely new announcement because a member of the public wanted it. No insults to Badenoch, maybe she would be a good cabinet secretary, but her response was synonymous with other issues like tax, immigration, energy costs etc and other unfunded giveaways - goldilocks with the goodies, without the means to pay for it. It isn't particularly Conservative.

She is a bit of a dither. First she was a Lib Dem, she was a committed Remainer, now brands herself as a leaver and a right Thatcherite to shore up votes. 

Her allies and the politics of envy they keep playing is more socialism than conservatism as well. She makes out she had it really hard up, because she was born in Leeds. The guts and commitment of Sunak's family to succeeding should be something to be encouraged and celebrated, not sneered and criticised at. Its double-standards as well, lets see who the Tory party is funded by - the good Samaritan I'm sure. I don't care who funds the Tory party, as it goes, but the critique of Sunak's wealth from his own ranks has been rank hypocrisy. 

For voting I come under Redcar and had voted Labour for years but the area had issues with the Labour leadership imposing unwanted people on the locals and mass resignation and much bitterness followed and Brexit and all that added to the mix and the area went blue.

Before that we had issues with a Labour candidate complaining that all the locals wanted to talk about was the steel works. I can't image why as it had only been there 100 years. Nationally there was the white van and flag incident, Gordon Brown and his bigot and people not knowing what a woman is. For these and other reasons I just can't bring myself to vote Labour at the moment. There may be similar issue in the Con party but until recently I was probably more interested in what shampoo Mrs WW uses than what goes on in the Con world. Not very. So, Rishi or Truzzzz. I really don't care but they'll probably get my vote as the alternative is still probably unelectable.

Is that a collectors item to be sold at a profit on EBay in the future?

I've got the same T shirt and since I've been wearing it I've been abused, sworn at, had hot coffee thrown at me and a McDonald's milkshake emptied over my head. I dread to think what'll happen when I leave the house.

Well it looks like Least Trussted is going to walk it.

I fear she will be an unmitigated disaster unless she executes yet another of her many bait and switches, and upon gaining the keys to 10DS, says so long and thanks for all the support to most of the rest of the Johnson-era dross (looking at you Voldermogg, Mad Nad, Uncleverley, the Unelected Frost etc). Then I might pay some attention, but I am not holding my breath on that count.

Would you like chlamydia or gonorrhoea?

I don't understand why they're out campaigning and indulging in debates when none of us get a single choice in the matter of which if them becomes the new PM.

It's like:

"You're either going to get rogered by a spiked bat covered in Marmite or have your genitals stood on constantly with a pair of lawn aerating shoes, but you don't get to choose which one"