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Post by Alex on Aug 24, 2022 8:05:12 GMT
Bearing in mind this is the same government that gave Gavin Williamson a knighthood I don't think they are joking.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 24, 2022 10:14:31 GMT
Bearing in mind this is the same government that gave Gavin Williamson a knighthood I don't think they are joking. That was disgraceful, they should have charged for honours like Labour do.  |
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Post by Tim on Aug 24, 2022 11:27:34 GMT
Bearing in mind this is the same government that gave Gavin Williamson a knighthood I don't think they are joking. That was disgraceful, they should have charged for honours like Labour do. They do, isn't it £3M for the HoL - unless you're a useful sitting MP like Mad Nad? |
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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 24, 2022 21:10:04 GMT
Just watching the news and I do have to admit that Boris has made me proud of the UK’s work in Ukraine. Whilst we might be a laughing stock to most of Europe they can’t deny we’re leading the way amongst our neighbours.
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Post by PG on Aug 25, 2022 6:57:30 GMT
Why should she though? I don't actually think it is an issue. Not for me, anyway. Legally and perhaps morally it isn't but the media have run with it and it is now perceived to be a very big issue. Legally yes it is not an issue. But morally I think it is. It's all about commitment to the country you want to be PM of. It's hard to believe that a PM is committed to a country (whatever he says) if for tax reasons his wife chooses not to be. Because being a non-dom is a choice. It was made out by the Rishi-supporters that she has to be a non-dom as she is an Indian citizen. That's not the case. It is a rule designed to encourage wealthy non-UK passport holders to live here. In return for an annual payment, you don't pay UK tax on your overseas income not brought back to the UK. India and UK have a double tax treaty so if she chose to become a UK resident for tax purposes, she would not pay tax twice on the her dividend income. Of course India does not have IHT, which means that when her dad passes she can keep that money in India away from the UK tax man. |
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Post by Big Blue on Aug 25, 2022 8:47:47 GMT
Morally a PM or Chancellor having a non-dom spouse is an issue for the "visuals". Put simply what they appear to be indicating is "we make these tax regimes for you little UK people but they're not for us." However it is the case that W2.1 earns abroad but it never comes here so her SK tax return deals with that income and she has to prove to the SK revenue that she has paid tax in the UK on her UK earnings.
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Post by Tim on Sept 5, 2022 11:41:12 GMT
Oh well, no shock turnaround there then.
I'll be interested to see the margin of victory.
EDIT: 81k for Truss and 60k for Sunak.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 5, 2022 12:12:49 GMT
If they've any sense they'll call a GE asap.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 5, 2022 12:42:58 GMT
It’s not a resounding victory for her. Second among her own MPs and only 57% among the members.
I am prepared to wait and see. She seems to be an artful shapeshifter, so let’s see what we get. It might be the right-wing ideology love-in of Voldermogg’s dreams, or it might be that she merely said what she needed to say to be elected and will be more pragmatic than ideological in practice.
Be particularly interesting to see who is in cabinet. I am not impressed by the suggested names of Cleverley for foreign secretary and Braverman as Home Secretary. Both have always struck me as being at the chaff end of what was a particularly poor Johnson cabinet.
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 5, 2022 12:45:19 GMT
It’s not a resounding victory for her. Second among her own MPs and only 57% among the members. Perfect for reuniting a divided Conservative party...... just like the Brexit vote did. Oh, hang on...... |
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Post by Tim on Sept 5, 2022 13:00:25 GMT
If they've any sense they'll call a GE asap. I think it's already too late for that |
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Post by Stuntman on Sept 5, 2022 13:31:37 GMT
I think it would be very foolish for Liz Truss to call a General Election ASAP.
I agree with Racing to an extent: she is a shapeshifter (I wouldn't say artful) but this of itself concerns me about her values and their solidity. After all, she was a proper Liberal Democrat before joining the Conservative Party, campaigned for Remain and later said that it was wrong, and it appears that her personal life commitments have also shapeshifted or at least wobbled in the past.
But - let's see what she actually does and for the sake of the country I hope she unites the Party to some extent at least. Actions speak louder than words.
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Post by Ben on Sept 5, 2022 14:59:34 GMT
Nobody voted for her in this poll...
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Post by michael on Sept 5, 2022 15:09:56 GMT
She seems to be an artful shapeshifter, so let’s see what we get. That's not a bad thing. The Conservatives have been so enormously successful because they can adapt.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 5, 2022 15:12:47 GMT
If they've any sense they'll call a GE asap. I think it's already too late for that My point is that the situation on the economy seems irretrievable so if they have any sense they call a GE, lose it to Labour, let them try and fail to deal with the situation (and take the flak), before re-grouping for a GE in 2027. |
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 5, 2022 15:49:33 GMT
Yes but it would be political suicide by Truss, who will have no desire to go down as one of the shortest tenures as PM in history.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 5, 2022 15:56:02 GMT
Yes but it would be political suicide by Truss, who will have no desire to go down as one of the shortest tenures as PM in history. I think that's a given anyway. |
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Post by Stuntman on Sept 5, 2022 18:18:19 GMT
Well, Priti Patel has 'stepped down' as Foreign Secretary today while Johnson remains PM, and Conservative co-chairman Ben Elliot (friend of Johnson and perhaps of similar moral character) has also tendered his resignation. Both of these events are very good things in my opinion, and I think that the UK is better served already. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62799583Huzzah! And huzzah again! |
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Post by Stuntman on Sept 5, 2022 18:19:29 GMT
I think it's already too late for that My point is that the situation on the economy seems irretrievable so if they have any sense they call a GE, lose it to Labour, let them try and fail to deal with the situation (and take the flak), before re-grouping for a GE in 2027. Interesting strategy - I hadn't thought in that way, and I quite like it unless I was actually Liz Truss. Huzzah! |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 7, 2022 20:46:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 16:11:25 GMT
Considering what Boris said on his way out the door, a Truss foul up with a term of Labour could well lead to a Boris return.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 9, 2022 21:05:52 GMT
I suspect the chance of that, scary as it is, is overstated.
Several colleagues in the pub last night commented that they were delighted Boris didn’t get to preside over current Royal events. He must be furious to have missed out by mere days.
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Post by Stuntman on Sept 10, 2022 11:52:44 GMT
Indeed, Racing.
On this and similar notes - I thought Penny Mordaunt did a good job today in the Proclamations. Much better than Liz Truss at reading stuff out and/or committing some of it to memory.
I still think it is/was a missed opportunity that she is not actually now PM.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 10, 2022 17:52:28 GMT
I suspect the chance of that, scary as it is, is overstated. Several colleagues in the pub last night commented that they were delighted Boris didn’t get to preside over current Royal events. He must be furious to have missed out by mere days. Boris’ speech in the Commons yesterday was excellent. |
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 10, 2022 18:02:52 GMT
I dare say. But if I never heard Boris Johnson speak again, that’s just fine by me.
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