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Post by racingteatray on Jun 23, 2022 20:26:44 GMT
Well I have a build slot - December.
Was passing Mayfair Porsche yesterday so dropped in and had a spec fiddle…changed colour to Gentian Blue, upped interior to Extended Leather, upped alloys to the GT Design ones in Satin Platinum, and added wireless charging.
Re-ran the Finance quote and despite the above and a recent c£2k price hike, the monthlies were largely unchanged thanks to a £5k hike to the GFV…
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 23, 2022 20:30:15 GMT
Was quite taken by this Oak Green colour they had on a Macan in the showroom but it is special order at circa £6k and apparently adds a further six months to the delivery time. This one was just a 2.0 Macan but had a jaw-dropping £25k+ options fitted…  |
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Post by PG on Jun 23, 2022 21:17:51 GMT
Well I have a build slot - December..... On the one hand, great you have a build slot. On the other hand, December!!! |
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 23, 2022 21:27:47 GMT
I fail to see how a different paint colour can add 6 months to the build time, it's just paint and I can't believe that it is in such short supply that it will take a year to get hold of enough to paint one car
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 23, 2022 21:33:17 GMT
Depends how they’ve set their paint shop up. Likelihood is they wait until they have more than one so the set up is more efficient, hence the BMW special colour option on mine was far cheaper than any other Individual colour because they promoted it to get more in the paint shop in a day.
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Post by Alex on Jun 24, 2022 8:00:49 GMT
Well I have a build slot - December..... On the one hand, great you have a build slot. On the other hand, December!!! You've obviously not had much experience of ordering new cars of late. A 10 month wait from order to build is quite good going these days. |
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Post by Martin on Jun 24, 2022 8:20:48 GMT
Well I have a build slot - December. Was passing Mayfair Porsche yesterday so dropped in and had a spec fiddle…changed colour to Gentian Blue, upped interior to Extended Leather, upped alloys to the GT Design ones in Satin Platinum, and added wireless charging. Re-ran the Finance quote and despite the above and a recent c£2k price hike, the monthlies were largely unchanged thanks to a £5k hike to the GFV… Careful, with the wheel/colour/leather change that's getting closer to 'Martin Spec'.....!  Have you decided to stick with the Macan order? |
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 24, 2022 13:19:26 GMT
I ordered in Jan, so it would be 11 months from order to build, and a little longer until delivery I assume.
I’m sticking with the Macan order for now yes. I can change my mind until the end of October.
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Post by PG on Jun 24, 2022 15:23:25 GMT
On the one hand, great you have a build slot. On the other hand, December!!! You've obviously not had much experience of ordering new cars of late. A 10 month wait from order to build is quite good going these days. It was meant as a tongue in cheek comment. How times change, that people are glad that they have a build slot. |
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Post by Martin on Jun 24, 2022 17:17:58 GMT
Depends how they’ve set their paint shop up. Likelihood is they wait until they have more than one so the set up is more efficient, hence the BMW special colour option on mine was far cheaper than any other Individual colour because they promoted it to get more in the paint shop in a day. Or......it's really a standard colour because it is in the main price list and can be added to a standard order, but they think they can get away with charging extra for it (£1k?) by calling it 'Individual'! To be fair, the three colours they charge an extra £1k for do have more metallic flake in them and will be more costly for BMW. There are about 90 options and looking at the link below, based on the 5 series they start at £3k for colours available on other BMW models as a normal option to just under £5k. Which isn't quite so bad now they charge £900 for a basic metallic (even on the 6 cylinder cars which was never the case) and £2000 for the 3 more expensive options. £4,385 for Chalk on an M3 btw! discover.bmw.co.uk/iframes/individual-visualiserEdit: Bit of man maths and the individual paint can seem like better value. Even with the lower discounts available now (17%), the most expensive paint is 'only' £2,400 more than Aventurine and an even better way of looking at it, 3.5% on top of the cost of a well specced eco wagon. The next price rise will be more than that, so order now and it's 'free'....  |
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 24, 2022 17:42:31 GMT
I looked at the individual colours because I fancied dark green but thought it was taking the piss compared to the premium on the £1k I paid for dark red.
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Post by Martin on Jun 24, 2022 17:45:53 GMT
I looked at the individual colours because I fancied dark green but thought it was taking the piss compared to the premium on the £1k I paid for dark red. I've edited my post with some man maths to get the cost down. BMW would charge you £1995 for your paint now, as metallic is no longer standard, so that closes a gap a bit. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 24, 2022 19:11:26 GMT
The automotive paint spray booths my dad was designing and installing in factories all over the world in the 1990s could change colour car after car.
The idea that they have to paint in batches is waaaay out of date.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 24, 2022 20:04:16 GMT
There’s no colour on offer by any manufacturer that costs them more than £100 to apply. They call them individual and all that crap but it’s really just an opportunity for them to increase the profitability of an order. If you like the colour and are prepared to pay these hugely inflated prices then buy and enjoy and don’t let the fact they’re pulling your pants down spoil the experience.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 24, 2022 21:10:28 GMT
Depends how they’ve set their paint shop up. Likelihood is they wait until they have more than one so the set up is more efficient, hence the BMW special colour option on mine was far cheaper than any other Individual colour because they promoted it to get more in the paint shop in a day. Paint shops are now generally set up so that any colour follows any other, they don't do a morning of red followed by an afternoon of silver etc |
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Post by Martin on Jun 24, 2022 21:29:08 GMT
There’s no colour on offer by any manufacturer that costs them more than £100 to apply. They call them individual and all that crap but it’s really just an opportunity for them to increase the profitability of an order. If you like the colour and are prepared to pay these hugely inflated prices then buy and enjoy and don’t let the fact they’re pulling your pants down spoil the experience. Have you forgotten the story of Pure Metal Silver…..  That would gave cost them a lot more than £100 to apply. But otherwise I agree with you and while I wouldn’t have something as potentially problematic as the colour on the 7, I would pay to have an individual colour if I really liked it / didn’t really like one of the standard colours. If I was speccing a new BMW I’d pay the £5k for the B&W speakers as well, which is in the same inflated price category, but is fantastic and one of the things I miss the most about my last car despite having a decent Meridian surround system in this one. |
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Post by Alex on Jun 25, 2022 0:27:11 GMT
I suppose the reason they can do it is because the option doesn't require the buyer to actually hand over several grand in cash it just adds a couple of quid to the monthly finance cost. Q
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 25, 2022 9:41:59 GMT
I suppose the reason they can do it is because the option doesn't require the buyer to actually hand over several grand in cash it just adds a couple of quid to the monthly finance cost. Q Exactly this. Plus with discount I paid the base price for an un-specced car. |
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Post by bryan on Jun 25, 2022 15:50:30 GMT
Do Porsche discount? I was always under the impression it was beneath them?
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 25, 2022 19:43:23 GMT
Can’t speak for Porsche, but the expensive paints for JLR products (SV paints and finishes or SV bespoke) are applied in the SV paint shop and not in the standard paint shops at any of the plants. There is an additional level of finishing too that goes some way to justify the cost.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 25, 2022 20:07:24 GMT
IIRC Audi will let you have any of their new cars in any colour they've ever offered before but the premium is about £3k. When my daughter was looking for her A1 in 2017 she saw one in a very fetching shade of blue (IIRC Kingfisher); it was in a showroom and was a customer special order. Never seen an A1 in anything approaching that bright a blue before (she sent me a photo of it)
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Post by PG on Jun 27, 2022 6:53:27 GMT
Can’t speak for Porsche, but the expensive paints for JLR products (SV paints and finishes or SV bespoke) are applied in the SV paint shop and not in the standard paint shops at any of the plants. There is an additional level of finishing too that goes some way to justify the cost. Is that the same paintshop as JLR Classic use? When we visited JLR Classic, the quality of the paintwork on their refurbs was amazing. |
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Post by franki68 on Jun 27, 2022 10:38:37 GMT
Do Porsche discount? I was always under the impression it was beneath them? Yes and no.It depends on the dealer and your relationship , I have had discounts on some cars but not on GT4/3 . |
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Post by Blarno on Jun 27, 2022 11:24:35 GMT
Can’t speak for Porsche, but the expensive paints for JLR products (SV paints and finishes or SV bespoke) are applied in the SV paint shop and not in the standard paint shops at any of the plants. There is an additional level of finishing too that goes some way to justify the cost. Same for us too. Although, we use specialist painters and finishers for all our cars. The bespoke stuff goes through days of masking, filling, etc before a drop of paint even touches it. |
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 24, 2022 21:41:22 GMT
So…
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 24, 2022 21:54:20 GMT
Yeah. It’s October. Ayes to right or Noes to the left? |
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Post by Martin on Oct 25, 2022 6:29:16 GMT
I though the brief/requirements had changed following the MINI purchase?
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 25, 2022 8:16:18 GMT
Just get it bought or you'll be in the same position in 6 months time and you'll end up in something like the new 4GC. You could probably run it for 6 months and get your money back anyway.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 25, 2022 17:26:33 GMT
Bullet bitten.
Should arrive in December.
Gentian Blue
Full black leather
18 way seats
Anthracite Chestnut wood trim
GT Design alloys in Satin Platinum
Panoramic roof
Roof rails
Standard air suspension
Surround view camera
Bose
Wireless charging
Heated steering wheel
Heated windscreen
Privacy Glass
PDLS+
Sport Chrono in Bordeaux Red
Collapsible spare wheel
Power steering plus
Porsche logo in black
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Post by Alex on Oct 26, 2022 4:23:00 GMT
Good call Racing, that seems a pretty good spec and you're even keeping Chris happy by adding a spare wheel! I like Gentian Blue on Dan's Boxster and I think it suits the Macan pretty well too.
I think you're right to go for it, this is likely the last chance you'll have to buy one new with an internal combustion engine and BMW are not offering you and alternative that you really want so you'd regret not buying the Macan if you'd left it.
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