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Post by Big Blue on Nov 8, 2021 20:19:16 GMT
Thomas Majchrzak, everyone’s favourite German car tester. Makes everyone else look shite - good humour, great coverage and gives you the stuff that matters - none of this “it laps the ‘Ring quicker than a ……..” nonsense. A key factor in me changing to Eva.
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Post by ChrisM on Nov 8, 2021 20:23:48 GMT
I quite like that Cherman bloke's refiews...he annoys me less than the Carwow bloke, although I have to zone out the repeated references to "animal-free" given my extremely limited tolerance for bunny-hugging. I don't think that Porsche offer rabbit-skin interiors yet...... |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 8, 2021 21:12:05 GMT
I do really like Gentian Blue, but my father has a Gentian Blue Macan S and to have the same car in the exact same colour combo (he also has a black leather interior with walnut trim) might just be a bit too much. Besides I also really liked the Night Blue on the one I tried - it's more subtle. Leather-wise I had thought that the full leather would be a must, but after trying the Turbo which had the extended leather (ie leather everywhere and alcantara roof lining), I then went and sat and poked around in a new S in the showroom which had the full leather but not the extended leather (ie only upper dash in leather and normal headlining), I'm not sure I'm that bothered. You don't spend much time eyeballing the door cappings or the headlining, and it's over a grand more which I suspect doesn't get much reflection in the residuals. I can't decide whether I like the RS alloys or the Turbo alloys more, so stuck with with the standard RS alloys. One reason for going for the full-fat electric seats, apart from max comfort, is that they also look much nicer - I don't like the stitching pattern on the standard seats - yeah, yeah, you can't see it when you're sitting on them, but I just think they look odd. |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 8, 2021 21:13:45 GMT
Thomas Majchrzak, everyone’s favourite German car tester. Makes everyone else look shite - good humour, great coverage and gives you the stuff that matters - none of this “it laps the ‘Ring quicker than a ……..” nonsense. A key factor in me changing to Eva. And I'm squarely with Herr Insufficient Vowels on his view that the updated Macan is appealing precisely because it combines updated tech with an analogue feel. |
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Post by Alex on Nov 8, 2021 21:18:35 GMT
I think the spec you worked out looks good. It sounds like the GTS is a way of giving some useful options and I can imagine it will be a more sought after used car later on. You have been sensible with the options but they're all things that you'd be annoyed to find missing if you buy second hand and the first owner hadn't included them. Porsches reversing camera is a lot cheaper than the one I've specced on the Octavia I've just ordered from Skoda.
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Post by Martin on Nov 8, 2021 21:24:42 GMT
I do really like Gentian Blue, but my father has a Gentian Blue Macan S and to have the same car in the exact same colour combo (he also has a black leather interior with walnut trim) might just be a bit too much. Besides I also really liked the Night Blue on the one I tried - it's more subtle. Leather-wise I had thought that the full leather would be a must, but after trying the Turbo which had the extended leather (ie leather everywhere and alcantara roof lining), I then went and sat and poked around in a new S in the showroom which had the full leather but not the extended leather (ie only upper dash in leather and normal headlining), I'm not sure I'm that bothered. You don't spend much time eyeballing the door cappings or the headlining, and it's over a grand more which I suspect doesn't get much reflection in the residuals. I can't decide whether I like the RS alloys or the Turbo alloys more, so stuck with with the standard RS alloys. One reason for going for the full-fat electric seats, apart from max comfort, is that they also look much nicer - I don't like the stitching pattern on the standard seats - yeah, yeah, you can't see it when you're sitting on them, but I just think they look odd. It’s not just the door tops, it’s the lower dashboard, the sides of the centre console, seat sides and the airbag cover, which you will see all the time. The part leather is fine, but at £70k another £1k isn’t a huge amount and it will make it feel even more special. I know there isn’t a lot of choice, but I’m surprised you’re considering all black leather. You’ve left the basic LED headlights on the spec as well rather than PDLS+, which aren’t voodoo/matrix, but have variable high beam assist and cornering lights. Having had a couple of cars with speed limit assist, I’d definitely spec that as well for such a small amount extra. |
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Post by Martin on Nov 8, 2021 21:25:52 GMT
I think the spec you worked out looks good. It sounds like the GTS is a way of giving some useful options and I can imagine it will be a more sought after used car later on. You have been sensible with the options but they're all things that you'd be annoyed to find missing if you buy second hand and the first owner hadn't included them. Porsches reversing camera is a lot cheaper than the one I've specced on the Octavia I've just ordered from Skoda. Without consulting the forum?!  It needs a thread of its own. |
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 8, 2021 21:40:31 GMT
Thomas Majchrzak, everyone’s favourite German car tester. Makes everyone else look shite - good humour, great coverage and gives you the stuff that matters - none of this “it laps the ‘Ring quicker than a ……..” nonsense. A key factor in me changing to Eva. And I'm squarely with Herr Insufficient Vowels on his view that the updated Macan is appealing precisely because it combines updated tech with an analogue feel. Yes, Thomas is very much “heating controls and steering wheel controls must be anolgue so you can feel you are making a change without looking.” Full touchscreen controls was what I most disliked about the XC60 T8 I had in France last year. |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 9, 2021 0:26:34 GMT
I do really like Gentian Blue, but my father has a Gentian Blue Macan S and to have the same car in the exact same colour combo (he also has a black leather interior with walnut trim) might just be a bit too much. Besides I also really liked the Night Blue on the one I tried - it's more subtle. Leather-wise I had thought that the full leather would be a must, but after trying the Turbo which had the extended leather (ie leather everywhere and alcantara roof lining), I then went and sat and poked around in a new S in the showroom which had the full leather but not the extended leather (ie only upper dash in leather and normal headlining), I'm not sure I'm that bothered. You don't spend much time eyeballing the door cappings or the headlining, and it's over a grand more which I suspect doesn't get much reflection in the residuals. I can't decide whether I like the RS alloys or the Turbo alloys more, so stuck with with the standard RS alloys. One reason for going for the full-fat electric seats, apart from max comfort, is that they also look much nicer - I don't like the stitching pattern on the standard seats - yeah, yeah, you can't see it when you're sitting on them, but I just think they look odd. It’s not just the door tops, it’s the lower dashboard, the sides of the centre console, seat sides and the airbag cover, which you will see all the time. The part leather is fine, but at £70k another £1k isn’t a huge amount and it will make it feel even more special. I know there isn’t a lot of choice, but I’m surprised you’re considering all black leather. You’ve left the basic LED headlights on the spec as well rather than PDLS+, which aren’t voodoo/matrix, but have variable high beam assist and cornering lights. Having had a couple of cars with speed limit assist, I’d definitely spec that as well for such a small amount extra. Having sat in both, I'm not minded to think I care - of course the full leather is nicer but the new dash design means you see less of the lower plastics so unconvinced it's money particularly well spent. The quality of the plastics in the Macan is nicer than in my car in any event. And I reckon it's £1k that makes naff all difference to the residuals, so merely bumps what is already a pricey PCP. Leather colour-wise, I'm not completely sure about the red (which was choice number two) or beige and certainly not about to go for the various off-white shades which are far too Miami Vice for my tastes. So that really just leaves black, which if I can break it up with what are fairly large slabs of walnut, would be fine. I liked the combination in my father's car, and was actually fine with the black and carbon in that Turbo I looked at. I didn't think I had left the basic lights on - I just didn't go for the tinted ones? |
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Post by Martin on Nov 9, 2021 5:33:45 GMT
The GTS gets tinted / black lights as standard (PDLS), so the upgrade is to PDLS+ rather than adding tint.
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Post by Tim on Nov 9, 2021 9:08:46 GMT
Apart from a few options fitted as standard does the GTS have a power boost over the S?
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Post by johnc on Nov 9, 2021 10:42:16 GMT
Apart from a few options fitted as standard does the GTS have a power boost over the S? In a word yes. I don't know how much though: I think the old model was about 35/40hp and the new model is nearer 50hp more but Martin will give us the exact figures. |
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Post by Tim on Nov 9, 2021 10:54:11 GMT
I'm sure he will  On that basis then surely the GTS is the one to go for? |
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Post by Martin on Nov 9, 2021 11:21:57 GMT
I was tempted not to, but couldn’t help myself! S - 380ps / 520nm GTS - 440ps / 550nm GTS is 0.7 sec quicker to 60mph assuming both have Sport Chrono |
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Post by johnc on Nov 9, 2021 12:21:33 GMT
I don't think either will feel particularly slow. The GTS now has the same power as the old Turbo!
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Post by johnc on Nov 9, 2021 13:50:26 GMT
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Post by PetrolEd on Nov 9, 2021 14:36:54 GMT
I think if your in the market for a Macan you just need to ignore the fact its price is so expensive and look at the residual value and the real cost of ownership. I can't see it costing much more then the 440i over 3/4 years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 15:02:51 GMT
If you can work out the financial side (With or without Man Maffs) and want one then you will get one. At which point is the question
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 9, 2021 15:51:47 GMT
I think if your in the market for a Macan you just need to ignore the fact its price is so expensive and look at the residual value and the real cost of ownership. I can't see it costing much more then the 440i over 3/4 years. So the PCP quotes came back from the OPC - there is £2 per month in it between an S specced to my liking and a GTS specced to my liking. That's because there's only about a £6k difference in RRP but a £7k difference in GFV. So in essence, a GTS would cost me the same over 4yrs but £7k more if I then chose to pay the balloon. |
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Post by Stuntman on Nov 9, 2021 16:15:58 GMT
I was in my local OPC today and there was a Gentian Blue 911 in the showroom and it had the red interior (and red brake calipers). I thought it looked really good. The steering wheel was black and the seat backs were black, as was the gearshift surround and the headlining. So it wasn't "too red" and it made a refreshing change from the black or dark grey interiors that most cars have.
And very unusually, it also had a manual gearbox. Bravo indeed to whoever specced that car.
So I think that the red interior, tastefully specced and with a complementary exterior colour would look very good on a Macan too.
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Post by garry on Nov 9, 2021 16:18:28 GMT
I was in my local OPC today and there was a Gentian Blue 911 in the showroom and it had the red interior (and red brake calipers). I thought it looked really good. The steering wheel was black and the seat backs were black, as was the gearshift surround and the headlining. So it wasn't "too red" and it made a refreshing change from the black or dark grey interiors that most cars have. And very unusually, it also had a manual gearbox. Bravo indeed to whoever specced that car. So I think that the red interior, tastefully specced and with a complementary exterior colour would look very good on a Macan too. Where is your local OPC? I'd like to see that colour combo |
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Post by Stuntman on Nov 9, 2021 16:21:01 GMT
Tewkesbury - sadly from your point of view for an in-person visit, unless the car is on their website...
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Post by Martin on Nov 9, 2021 16:25:43 GMT
I think if your in the market for a Macan you just need to ignore the fact its price is so expensive and look at the residual value and the real cost of ownership. I can't see it costing much more then the 440i over 3/4 years. So the PCP quotes came back from the OPC - there is £2 per month in it between an S specced to my liking and a GTS specced to my liking. That's because there's only about a £6k difference in RRP but a £7k difference in GFV. So in essence, a GTS would cost me the same over 4yrs but £7k more if I then chose to pay the balloon. GTS it is then. When are you placing the order? |
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Post by Tim on Nov 9, 2021 16:25:45 GMT
I was in my local OPC today and there was a Gentian Blue 911 in the showroom and it had the red interior (and red brake calipers). I thought it looked really good. The steering wheel was black and the seat backs were black, as was the gearshift surround and the headlining. So it wasn't "too red" and it made a refreshing change from the black or dark grey interiors that most cars have. And very unusually, it also had a manual gearbox. Bravo indeed to whoever specced that car. So I think that the red interior, tastefully specced and with a complementary exterior colour would look very good on a Macan too. What shade is Porsches red leather? It's not Dog Knob Red is it? I've had 3 cars with red leather - the Alfa GT, the last 320 and the current 430. It goes well with black or dark grey and was something we actively looked for on choosing the 430. |
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Post by Stuntman on Nov 9, 2021 16:32:40 GMT
No, I think it's called Bordeaux Red and it's like a red wine colour. Unsurprisingly  |
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Post by johnc on Nov 9, 2021 17:00:04 GMT
I think if your in the market for a Macan you just need to ignore the fact its price is so expensive and look at the residual value and the real cost of ownership. I can't see it costing much more then the 440i over 3/4 years. So the PCP quotes came back from the OPC - there is £2 per month in it between an S specced to my liking and a GTS specced to my liking. That's because there's only about a £6k difference in RRP but a £7k difference in GFV. So in essence, a GTS would cost me the same over 4yrs but £7k more if I then chose to pay the balloon. Or pay the £7K up front, save the interest on it and it is also more palatable at the end of the PCP. |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 9, 2021 17:25:20 GMT
So the PCP quotes came back from the OPC - there is £2 per month in it between an S specced to my liking and a GTS specced to my liking. That's because there's only about a £6k difference in RRP but a £7k difference in GFV. So in essence, a GTS would cost me the same over 4yrs but £7k more if I then chose to pay the balloon. Or pay the £7K up front, save the interest on it and it is also more palatable at the end of the PCP. That would just make the monthlies lower and not change the size of the balloon. I still have to pay c.£39k at the end rather than c.£32k. |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 9, 2021 17:26:34 GMT
No, I think it's called Bordeaux Red and it's like a red wine colour. Unsurprisingly Unfortunately I couldn't find one in the showroom with leather that colour. Does it look more subtle in real life that it does in photos? |
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Post by Martin on Nov 9, 2021 17:44:52 GMT
Or pay the £7K up front, save the interest on it and it is also more palatable at the end of the PCP. That would just make the monthlies lower and not change the size of the balloon. I still have to pay c.£39k at the end rather than c.£32k. But the car / your asset would (should...) be worth £7k more, so I don't get the problem. If you do keep it longer, then extra cost at the end would be well worth it for 5 years of cleaner / easy to clean wheels thanks to PSCB! If you haven't specced them on the 'S', the LFL GTS is actually £2k cheaper and they've gone for red rather than white callipers which is much better. |
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Post by Stuntman on Nov 9, 2021 18:44:09 GMT
No, I think it's called Bordeaux Red and it's like a red wine colour. Unsurprisingly Unfortunately I couldn't find one in the showroom with leather that colour. Does it look more subtle in real life that it does in photos? I did think it was fairly subtle. I'm not usually a fan of red leather interiors but I was definitely impressed by this particular combination on this particular car. It looked very smart, and if that 911 was my own car I would be very pleased with it. |
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