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Post by Stuntman on Mar 18, 2021 21:58:25 GMT
In other news - the Pope is a Catholic and bears do actually defecate in the woods.
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Post by garry on Mar 19, 2021 8:30:53 GMT
Did anyone think to ask any of the boys the same question? I suspect if you start to look at the detail it will be the boys who are subject to the overwhelming proportion of violence in schools. My secondary school education included three school moves due to Dad changing jobs. All three would be best described as inner city sink schools. I have a sister who is one year younger and a brother who is two years younger. My brother and I both had to fight - we were the new kids and we might as well have had targets on our backs. My sister had nothing like the same level of issue. |
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Post by Martin on Mar 19, 2021 8:41:37 GMT
Did anyone think to ask any of the boys the same question? I suspect if you start to look at the detail it will be the boys who are subject to the overwhelming proportion of violence in schools. My secondary school education included three school moves due to Dad changing jobs. All three would be best described as inner city sink schools. I have a sister who is one year younger and a brother who is two years younger. My brother and I both had to fight - we were the new kids and we might as well have had targets on our backs. My sister had nothing like the same level of issue. I changed schools a few time, not to inner city sink schools, but the experience was the same. All it took in the last one was knocking the main culprit down when we were in a "fight fight fight" ring and it all stopped. My first experience was infant school when I had a tooth knocked out because my Dad had a new (company) car and most of my classmates dads worked at the local pit (the one that's the national coal mining museum now) so I was therefore Posh. That soon changed when my parents took me out of that school and put me into private school, I was very much at the poor end of the scale compared to my classmates! My best friend used to get dropped off by his mum in a Maserati Bora which I thought was unbelievably cool. |
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Post by Big Blue on Mar 19, 2021 10:08:23 GMT
I had two attempted bullying attempts on me: one in middle school; one in secondary school. Both time a boy in the year above. The first one I punched in the face twice (I had great fight training from my big sister!) and the second one I out ran across the rugby pitches and as he was fancied as a sprinter he left it and said "bloody hell, you're fast, mate". I was never small and I was never aggressive. Ah: and my best mate was the biggest bloke in the school (and remains my best friend to this day).
My sons were fortunate in that whilst they have inherited my non-aggressive nature it was always clear that there are three of them, even though they all went to separate high schools in the end. At college I knew they'd been raised OK when one remarked "bloody hell, dad - everyone else in my year group is a total chav!" (he's at art school). My mother was once chastised because I was very select with my friend group to which she replied "good - I don't want him mixing with any Riff-raff." In the early '80s ultra left-wing teaching arena that was my high school this was likely not received well......
My experience with the girls is that the cattiness and spite element is far worse than a punch-up in the playground. My older daughter is the tallest and likely strongest pupil in the year, meaning she will be the biggest in the school for the best part of two years. She's very dominant and one mother has already fallen out with W2.1 over that (although her daughter is a mad case as far as I'm concerned so they can just avoid one another forever); she's also a high achiever (except Maths!) which is another bullying target I seem to recall. Youngest daughter is so strong willed that I feel sorry for any that comes into contact with her! All we can do is tell our kids not be scared to speak up about this kind of stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 12:19:43 GMT
As a child with epilepsy in the sixties it was, interesting but when recovering from a seizure in the playground, the girls were much more vicious but then even the teachers wanted me removed which my parents were not going to do.
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Post by PG on Mar 19, 2021 16:30:32 GMT
I don't know if the culture has changed now, but back in the 70's, if you got bullied at my school, the schools'a attitude was almost that it was your own fault. In fact I'm sure some of the teachers found it all a bit amusing.
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Post by Stuntman on Mar 19, 2021 22:23:37 GMT
Absolutely loads of bullying went on in the private school that I went to between the ages of 10 and 17.
I don't remember any significant bullying at the state schools I went to between the ages of 4 and 10.
At the private school (which was mixed, and had over 40 nationalities) the teachers turned a blind eye to most of it and actively participated in some of it. Double standards were rife - if your parents were rich you could get away with practically anything. If not, heaven help you.
Being both of very slight/slim build (I was a distance runner) and also highly academic (I was only at the school because I was given a scholarship with all the fees paid) meant that I was potentially a target. But after the inevitable trials of the first term there (I boarded, nobody else in my family had ever gone to a school like this) I wasn't targeted at all. Being good at sport helped, being humorous and quick-witted also helped. Some kids were mercilessly put upon though.
I suspect that most of these behaviours have been consigned to history, but children are cruel and many teachers are institutionalised.
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