Sarah Everard

I read somewhere earlier (can't recall where) that the cop alleged to have abducted her 'flashed' himself in a shop or fast-food place last week. Still seems a bit of a rapid progression as you say, even if true; but yes, makes me worried all over again for my daughter's safety.

Mind you, she's never reported anything like that to me, so maybe Edinburgh is a bit safer in that regard than other places?

I haven't read much about the case but yes seems a horrible crime. Was she walking alone at night between Clapham and Brixton? I know that we shouldn't live in fear but no way would I feel comfortable doing that let alone a woman on her own.

As for the perpetrator, it wouldn't surprise me if he had a fair list of crimes behind him that have gone unreported.

I grew up there living just a minute from Clapham junction so know it pretty well, even though the shops have changed a fair bit and the cinema is now a b&$*o pit. Just back from the junction is a Aldi or some such. When I was a kid there was a wood yard there, where my first two wheel bicycle snapped in two, I can still hear the slap my chin made on the ground.

TBF to the Mayor, Londons been a cesspit for longer then his tenure but it does seem to be getting worse. 

Quite rightly I certainly feel there's a lot of anger growing from woman about this crime but unfortunately there's already a lot of serious Men hating going on social media. I see it going a bit BLM for a while. 

It's terrible what happened but I've seen suggestions such as that there should be a 6pm curfew for men.
Er, what?
I find that deeply offensive and I'm sure it will be counter-productive.

So, what is the curfew for women and non specific gender types?

According to my Census report, I am a Vulcan anyway but the suggestion of a gender specific curfew is gender discrimination which is illegal in law and therefor moot, so why make the suggestion unless you are just stirring up controversy and crying at the moon. I feel sorry for the loons. Pardon me, what is the gender and specific adjective for these people that is not going to have me hung drawn and quartered for the use of it?

I don't see how you will ever stop "rogue" characters in society who do things that are totally unacceptable to over 99.99% of the population.

I know from personal experience if you try to report someone who you think is a danger to someone else, "data protection", "patient confidentiality" and other excuses are made by the authorities who will not act until something has happened - eg a murder is committed. Seems a little crazy to me

That’s my point, there’s black lads being stabbed to death every night and the Mayor is reluctant to do anything about it.

Apparently he was in the cell on his own. Could be that it suddenly dawned on him that he is going to spend the rest of his life behind bars on the segregation wing.

So, who was the woman arrested and charged with him? His wife?

I found the 6pm curfew for men idea outrageous too. But you see the movement is not a campaign to have us guys actually curfewed. It is to raise the point that women already have a 6pm curfew put upon them. They're told not to go out alone after dark. Men are not. They're recommended to carry rape alarms. Men are not. They're told to ensure that someone knows where they are at night. Men are not. They're told not to get into a cab alone. Men are not. If a woman walking down the street senses one of us men following her she feels uncomfortable even though rationally you have no intention of harming her. She feels uncomfortable because shes been bought up to be so. Men are not. Just this week when they were hunting for Sarah police went around the area telling women to be careful if they went out at night.

If you're moaning about being told men should have a 6pm curfew, you're missing the point. It's not about anyone being officially curfewed.

Tim that was not directed at you personally.

But the point is Mark, it is much more likely to be women. Yes of course men come to harm too but if I told you someone had been raped in the park last night, you wouldn't ask me if the victim was Male or female, you'd have already made a mental picture of a woman. As would I do.

They're not trying to say men dont get hurt. They're raising the point that men dont get bought up to be scared to leave the house after 6pm but women are constantly reminded of the dangers of doing so and therefore in essence they give themselves a curfew.

Wasnt trying to be presumptuous, but I can imagine 99% of people would automatically imagine it was a woman who was a victim.

This is an emotive subject so I don't want to fall out with you but you're missing their point. It isn't that the advice isn't sensible in the same way that you are rightly advised to invest in decent home security or at the very least lock your door at night. We should live in a world free of burglars but we dont. The point is that these issues of personal safety are directed at women not men and that's what upsets them.