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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 9:38:06 GMT
The spec: Byron Blue with Ebony leather and Black Burr Ash trim. It doesn't have many other options (there aren't many available), all it has are 22" wheels, privacy glass, upgraded trim, centre console fridge and cabin ionisation, which would have come to £2,370 when it was new. Plus the deployable side steps which I've had fitted of course. Standard equipment on a Vogue includes - Fixed panoramic roof, laminated glass, heated windscreen, Matrix LEDs, Folding/dimming mirrors, keyless entry, heated steering wheel, electric front seats, electric reclining rear seats, gesture tailgate, heated steering wheel, 3 zone climate and all the other things you'd expect (cruise, auto lights/wipers, heated seats etc). Moving up to the Vogue SE adds - 20 way adjustment to the front seats, Semi-aniline leather, Cooled seats front/rear, more ambient lighting, soft close doors, Meridian Surround system and some driver aids such as traffic sign recognition, 360 parking sensors, blind spot monitor and a couple of others. In addition to everything on the Vogue/Vogue SE spec, Autobiography has - Active locking rear diff - Dynamic response (anti roll, which is std on the V8s) - Surround Cameras - Sliding Panoramic Roof - Pixel LED headlights - Front fog lights - Adaptive cruise control with lane assist - 24 Way adjustable front seats - Front seat massage - Executive Class rear seats (16 way with memory, electric armrest, electric load through) - 4 Zone climate - Suedecloth headlining (full leather headlining is a no cost option, but very rare) - Premium carpet mats - Illuminated treadplates - Remote timed climate - Park Assist - Lane keep assist / blind spot assist If I could afford to spec one new, there isn't much I'd want to add. You can go crazy with the paint cost (up to £8,800), add a £4,500 signature sound system and rear entertainment, but as i've discovered with the BMW, screens in the back do eat into the space so that's one for the LWB. I'd probably add a Head up Display, but due to the driving position vs the instruments I don't think I'll miss it too much and that would be it. Not that there is much more, just different trims, hot stone massage seats with an adjustable calf rest (heated along with the arm rests!) and a tow bar. Collecting around 2:30pm today, weather looks pretty awful unfortunately but it will be in the handover bay, so I can have a proper look around it now it's been valeted. Pictures to follow.  |
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Post by PG on Jun 18, 2020 9:45:15 GMT
24 way adjustable front seats. I'm trying to imagine 24 ways you could adjust a front seat and my head hurts. Unless some of the changes are in a parallel dimension only attainable by full-fat RR drivers?  Enjoy it - I just know you're going to. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 18, 2020 9:56:11 GMT
Some cars you look at and wonder how they get away with charging so much. With Range Rovers you start to wonder how they don't charge more for so much kit.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 18, 2020 9:59:17 GMT
That really is FFFG.
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 10:01:17 GMT
24 way adjustable front seats. I'm trying to imagine 24 ways you could adjust a front seat and my head hurts. Unless some of the changes are in a parallel dimension only attainable by full-fat RR drivers? Enjoy it - I just know you're going to. Thank you. Lumbar support is 4 of them, then add forward/backwards, backrest and seat base height and tilt adjustment and you're up to 12 and 2 of them are manual (the headrest wings). The BMW front seats have pretty much the same level of adjustability, but they're 20 way, as it has 'only' got 2 way electric for the headrests and doesn't have the wings. Fairly standard: fore/aft = 2-way, rise/fall = 2-way, squab recline = 2-way, cushion tilt = 2-way, lumbar = 4-way, Extra: cushion extension = 2-way, adjustable seat bolsters = 2-way, front upper shoulder support = 2-way, front headrest power height = 2-way, front headrest power fore/aft = 2-way, front headrest manual wings = 2-way |
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 18, 2020 10:08:01 GMT
Mammoth spec. Enjoy it all.
Horrible day to collect it weather wise. I've got those headrest wings: touched them once to see wtf they were about. Pointless is possibly the best description.
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 10:14:41 GMT
Mammoth spec. Enjoy it all. Horrible day to collect it weather wise. I've got those headrest wings: touched them once to see wtf they were about. Pointless is possibly the best description. It is supposed to brighten up later, so I'll give it a rinse off this evening as I'm going to Swindon tomorrow and picking the boys up late afternoon. They have no idea we were even thinking about changing the car. I've got similar comfort seats in the BMW and the headrest wings only adjust a very small amount, I agree they are pointless. I think the RR ones have a bigger range of adjustment, but they will still be pointless for the driver. |
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Post by bryan on Jun 18, 2020 10:37:21 GMT
Did the dealer appreciate the special paint on his part ex?
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 10:46:42 GMT
Did the dealer appreciate the special paint on his part ex? He did comment on the way it looked in the sun, but he was much more interested in being able to move the car from outside with the key as he knew about it but hadn't experience it...... |
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Post by PG on Jun 18, 2020 13:49:53 GMT
Did the dealer appreciate the special paint on his part ex? I doubt there are any stone chips, but if there are he'll find out about it pretty quickly when his tame bloke with a touch up tin arrives.. |
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Post by michael on Jun 18, 2020 13:53:42 GMT
Did the dealer appreciate the special paint on his part ex? He did comment on the way it looked in the sun, but he was much more interested in being able to move the car from outside with the key as he knew about it but hadn't experience it...... Unusually handy in our socially distant times! |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 18, 2020 14:22:05 GMT
Bloody hell, have I missed some discussion on this?! I've not frequented the forum as much recently. An SUV? A diesel SUV? Martin...  |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 18, 2020 14:37:39 GMT
Some cars you look at and wonder how they get away with charging so much. With Range Rovers you start to wonder how they don't charge more for so much kit. Because it'll only work for about 13 months. If you're lucky. Is Range Rover reliability really that bad? It gets thrown out there when people discuss them or review them but is it just a case of a dog unable to shake a bad name? I've heard they've invested billions on improving reliability so is it improving and are they on an upward trajectory? |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 18, 2020 15:10:06 GMT
Actually it just prompts more - I don't know what a reliability ranking of 99% compared to 81% means? Does that mean 81 out of 100 will have no faults (doesn't sound too bad)? How do they rank faults? Is a fault that leaves you stranded on the hard shoulder rank the same as one where your bum warmers burn out? How do they grade faults and reliability. I'm not doubting Lexus would be at the top and LR lower down, it's just difficult to get meaningful info from that sort of survey. |
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Post by Tim on Jun 18, 2020 15:51:43 GMT
When those surveys started to come out it was clear that the results varied depending on the brand - 20 years ago if you bought, say, a Skoda you had a higher tolerance for any perceived or actual faults whereas with a Merc you had no tolerance.
In ownership surveys I remember stuff like the Toyota Landcruiser being marked down for handling and performance but the S-Class Merc didn't get marks against it for poor off-road ability because that particular question wasn't asked!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 18, 2020 16:44:49 GMT
Bloody hell, have I missed some discussion on this?! I've not frequented the forum as much recently. An SUV? A diesel SUV? Martin... Duly caught up. 6 pages of thread already, even before collection! |
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 18, 2020 17:02:46 GMT
Because it'll only work for about 13 months. If you're lucky. Is Range Rover reliability really that bad? It gets thrown out there when people discuss them or review them but is it just a case of a dog unable to shake a bad name? I've heard they've invested billions on improving reliability so is it improving and are they on an upward trajectory? From the people I know who have had them, yes. But to many the risk is worth the reward. As a place to be they are second to none. It was enough to put me off buying one for the missus when we were looking at SUV's as I didn't want her and the boy stranded, if it was a car for me I wouldn't give a monkeys. Its like Mark who moaned about his Giulia, it hasn't put me off one at all but I'm going in with my eyes well and truly open and guess Martins doing the same. No matter how bad a reputation of a manufacturer is I still think you've got to be unlucky to get a lemon. |
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 17:29:59 GMT
There are people out there who will tell you they’ve had years and 10s of thousands of trouble free miles and there are other who’ve dumped it at the dealer a few days after taking delivery. There is a risk, but there are degrees of risk with any car, the 750 was off the road for a week twice (once was a puncture...) and took BMW 2 attempts to fix a slow water leak but I didn’t have so much as a rattle with the last one. I also think that getting something early in the model cycle is risky, they’ve had years to try and get this one right! I’m hoping that any build issues will have been resolved and it’s fairly trouble free, but not expecting it to be perfect.
Anyway. Enough of the dull reliability stuff....
Anyway....really good collection experience despite the CV19 rules and the roads had dried by the time I got there so it’s stayed nice and clean. The little man loved being in the garage and looking at the cars and seemed to like being able to look up and through the roof, then slept all the way home.
Enjoyed wafting home in it, with the seats gently cooling me while massaging my lower back. It really does chill you out, even more so than the BMW and I’m sure that I’m bad weather it will be even more calming and reassuring. It will take a while to get used to the initial roll. Enter a roundabout fairly quickly and it starts to lean over, then the active anti roll says that’s enough and it stays where it is. There’s more vertical movement on undulating roads, but firmed up the suspension and it stopped that while still keeping comfortable. Did an overtake and it picks up pretty well, doesn’t feel fast but does go better than you think it would.
Deployable steps were a good but, they come out far enough to be of use and means you’re sitting down onto the seat rather than sliding across it.
It’s a lovely thing indeed.
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 17:46:45 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 18, 2020 17:50:45 GMT
Wow, that back seat looks comfy!
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 17:52:11 GMT
And back home   The economy wasn't bad really, but the BMW managed an indicated 38.9 with almost the exact same average speed. That will be about 36.5 real mpg, no idea how optimistic/pessimistic the new one is yet.  |
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 17:53:10 GMT
Wow, that back seat looks comfy! It is, very! Huge range of adjustment, wide and very comfy with plenty of foot space. |
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Post by michael on Jun 18, 2020 17:53:12 GMT
That looks fantastic, congratulations. Is the glovebox lining purple? I noticed it was in the one belonging to a friend but his is pre-facelift.
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 17:54:24 GMT
I like how configurable the instruments are, something BMW are well behind with. You can have two dials, one dial with different displays either side as below), full map, driving aids or full screen entertainment  |
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Post by Andy C on Jun 18, 2020 17:57:33 GMT
Looks great Martin
Sorry if I’ve missed but what year is it ?
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Post by garry on Jun 18, 2020 18:14:28 GMT
Phew, you got home! 😄
Seriously, that’s lovely.
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2020 18:14:55 GMT
Looks great Martin Sorry if I’ve missed but what year is it ? Registered on the 22nd December 2018 and it hasn’t done any miles since it was serviced when it arrived at the dealership at the beginning of January. |
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