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Post by Martin on May 26, 2017 19:33:44 GMT
I like this, but suspect it will be close to £100k and they're calling it the second 'Collectors Edition'...... 600hp, 4WD, big arches, proper aero, lots of bespoke parts. Project 8
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 22:41:42 GMT
I reckon they look better in the flesh than in pictures. My recent 10 year old impersonation took in Aston, Bentley and Jaguar showrooms. Is that beast XE or XF based?
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Post by michael on May 26, 2017 22:59:40 GMT
XE based, apparently. (I had to look that up)
Left hand drive only and £100k...
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Post by Ben on May 27, 2017 7:05:31 GMT
I like the idea. Lose the big wing and I think it'll be brilliant.
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Post by PG on May 27, 2017 13:14:04 GMT
Like one of the commentors below the article on Autocar, I'm sort of confused what SVO are trying to do.
On the one hand they are a small outfit that bangs out one offs, collectors cars and such like and that's fine. But that is at odds with the fact that there is a production RRS SVR and I think a full fat RR Autobiography SVO, plus an F-Type SVR and we were told that they would be the "uber-halo" arm of JLR. And SVO seem to be getting preference over normal R models - which don't seem to have any urgency to get into production that I think they should. By all means do an XE-SVR if Jag want to, but don't lose sight of the broader market.
So whilst this XE collectors car is undoubtedly going to be excellent (apart from that naff spoiler that has no right to be on a Jag), it is not really furthering Jag XE sales in my view. Far better to spend the money on a proper M3 / C63 challenger - an XER. And what about an XFR? The "R" is for me a great compromise between comfort and speed. What fast Jags are really all about.
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Post by scouse on May 28, 2017 15:28:37 GMT
Like one of the commentors below the article on Autocar, I'm sort of confused what SVO are trying to do. On the one hand they are a small outfit that bangs out one offs, collectors cars and such like and that's fine. But that is at odds with the fact that there is a production RRS SVR and I think a full fat RR Autobiography SVO, plus an F-Type SVR and we were told that they would be the "uber-halo" arm of JLR. And SVO seem to be getting preference over normal R models - which don't seem to have any urgency to get into production that I think they should. By all means do an XE-SVR if Jag want to, but don't lose sight of the broader market. So whilst this XE collectors car is undoubtedly going to be excellent (apart from that naff spoiler that has no right to be on a Jag), it is not really furthering Jag XE sales in my view. Far better to spend the money on a proper M3 / C63 challenger - an XER. And what about an XFR? The "R" is for me a great compromise between comfort and speed. What fast Jags are really all about.Agreed. 'R' Jags should be the fast saloon that is better than equivalent M or AMG for ninetynine percent of the time, then let ze Germans compromise the rest of their cars for the one percent that give the muttering rotters their erections. |
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Post by Tim on Jun 14, 2017 9:55:55 GMT
Agree with all that.
I think the latest EVO made the point that for the BMW 4 Series range the highest seller is the 420d, the next is the M4.
There's a clear template for Jag to follow.
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Post by Martin on Jun 28, 2017 6:47:16 GMT
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Post by johnc on Jun 28, 2017 7:00:26 GMT
Why? What's the point? As a homologation special for a racing series I can see merit but otherwise a 4 door 2 seat saloon car is pretty pointless. At £149K there is so much more I would rather have.
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Post by Martin on Jun 28, 2017 7:46:03 GMT
+1
They have called it a 'Collectors Edition', which is probably the answer, but I can't see it's value increasing.
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Post by michael on Jun 28, 2017 8:24:32 GMT
I hope it works for whatever reason JLR have done this but I don't get it. All seems a bit "here's what you could have won" in that it seems they're not going to do anything interesting with the regular car.
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Post by Tim on Jun 28, 2017 8:56:56 GMT
I think they're just following BMWs example of the M4 GTS - a slightly more powerful, slightly better M4 but costing 6 figures. Factor in the power increase over the BMW and you get to £149k  |
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Post by Martin on Jun 28, 2017 10:50:18 GMT
But BMW sorted the cars you can actually buy first and as Michael has said, there's no sign of an interesting XE/XF yet.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 28, 2017 11:11:35 GMT
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Sorry that was the sound of the Alpina factory staff looking at this thread over their schnitzels at lunch.
The new B5 is now a bargain compared to that heap.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 28, 2017 11:14:39 GMT
Obviously for those who can't get on the list for a new GT3 or M4 GTS
Quite frankly it looks ridiculous, just what are they smoking down at JLR.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 11:40:40 GMT
I think Jags are often at least as appealing as their opposition, but this is ghastly.
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Post by PG on Jun 28, 2017 11:53:06 GMT
As a Jag lover and owner, this annoys me.
592hp supercharged V8 in an XE - sure, why not. But all the other tasteless and tacky wank that has come with that - no thanks. Please Jaguar (and Land Rover) employ less 18 year old people who read Max Power and just work on the mainstream stuff. I really hope we get back to less is more one day.
But I'm sure they'll sell out of this.
In other more positive news, I see that Jag have put the 296bhp 4 pot (that was recently launched in the F Type) into the XE, XF and F Pace. All with AWD only, but that's a whole lot more interesting than this version.
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Post by johnc on Jun 28, 2017 12:32:36 GMT
I see that Jag have put the 296bhp 4 pot (that was recently launched in the F Type) into the XE, XF and F Pace. All with AWD only, but that's a whole lot more interesting than this version. An S3/Golf R Jag equivalent - I hope it sounds better. |
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 28, 2017 12:36:03 GMT
According to Harry on Twitter, you can specify it with either two or four seats, apart from in the USA where it gets four only. I don't mind it - price is silly though.
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Post by Tim on Jun 28, 2017 12:39:21 GMT
Actually didn't Jag do this with the XF-R, release an expensive top spec one with a comedy rear wing (it was in Smurf Blue in the mags I think?) before they released a more normal one?
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Post by PG on Jun 28, 2017 12:54:09 GMT
Actually didn't Jag do this with the XF-R, release an expensive top spec one with a comedy rear wing (it was in Smurf Blue in the mags I think?) before they released a more normal one? They did it the other way round. Released an XFR and then did the bonkers XFR-S later on. Actually, with the four seat interior that looks rather good inside, and the F Type gear shifter really suits the XE interior. Now get all that and the V8 in a "normal" XE and we're talking.....  free image storage sites |
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Post by michael on Jun 28, 2017 12:58:48 GMT
Looks good until you see the crappy XE interior in a £150k car.
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Post by Blarno on Jun 28, 2017 14:29:00 GMT
Lose the wing and keep the 4 seats and it might just be acceptable. At £75k.
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Post by Tim on Jun 28, 2017 15:24:11 GMT
If it had a BMW or Porsche badge, orange wheels, loops made of material to close the door and that rollcage it would be a surefire hit.
In fact compared with the M4 GTS or any of the Black Series AMG Mercs it looks restrained and subdued.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 28, 2017 15:47:56 GMT
The difference in Porsche land is that they charged less than 70k for a GT4 where even the cheapest car is 40k. 150k for one of these is madness when the boggo car is 30k. BMW is equally barking with their run on M4's at mad money but I guess there's at least some sort of brand there.
I never understand these things that start from the compromised position of an executive saloon or GT car like a Bentley as they'd never be as good as something that starts off as a performance car. If you want a stripped out racer start with something like a 911/McLaren/Ferrari
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Post by Andy C on Jun 28, 2017 17:47:12 GMT
Looks pretty spectacular to me
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 28, 2017 21:01:40 GMT
150k. Those people that can buy it, will buy it. It looks bonkers and it sounds evil but there seems to be an ever increasing amount of people who have the means to buy incredibly expensive cars. And they will snap these up.
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 29, 2017 8:45:10 GMT
I think it looks and sounds incredible.
The amount of bespoke parts and depth of engineering is hugely impressive - this is the complete opposite of lick 'n' stick marketing tartery.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 8:47:46 GMT
Is the whine the gearbox or the supercharger? The V8 part of the soundtrack is great, the whine less so.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 29, 2017 9:00:57 GMT
That is awesome. The whine is definitely supercharger.
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