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Post by michael on Sept 10, 2019 9:56:51 GMT
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 10, 2019 10:25:37 GMT
Generally it ticks all the right boxes but is slightly disappointing in the styling dept (like most VW products recently). A bit too Citroen-y?
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Post by Tim on Sept 10, 2019 10:35:38 GMT
It's inoffensive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 10:50:49 GMT
Looks like a Golf from two generations into the future. I quite like that.
I think the removal/reduction of grilles may end up doing the car styling work a favour. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 10, 2019 10:56:52 GMT
Black roof (why isn't it solar panels?) and rear pillar graphics look good to me.
With a near-400 mile range the Skoda Octavia Estate version of this (presuming that there will be one in due course) should look really good.....
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 10, 2019 11:10:26 GMT
Black roof (why isn't it solar panels?) Adds significant weight and costs for minimal real world gains. |
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Post by PG on Sept 10, 2019 14:21:23 GMT
Indeed. The 2000 model C4 Picasso lives again.  |
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Post by Stuntman on Sept 10, 2019 20:41:52 GMT
A tentative thumbs up from me. I think it mostly looks good, and is unlikely to be too much of a leap for the majority of the current VW customer base.
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Post by Andy C on Sept 10, 2019 22:45:24 GMT
Looks like a Golf from two generations into the future. I quite like that.
I think the removal/reduction of grilles may end up doing the car styling work a favour. Agree with all of that |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 7:00:47 GMT
I had meant to say 'world', not 'work'!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 11, 2019 12:04:33 GMT
I can never understand why electric/hybrid/alternative fuel cars have to look wilfully different or so obviously "futuristic". Why can't they simply be styled like everything else or why can't everything else be styled with the kind of imagination thatis allowed on cars such as this? Why is there some kind of separation?
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Post by michael on Sept 11, 2019 15:01:18 GMT
I can never understand why electric/hybrid/alternative fuel cars have to look wilfully different or so obviously "futuristic". Why can't they simply be styled like everything else or why can't everything else be styled with the kind of imagination thatis allowed on cars such as this? Why is there some kind of separation? There was a comment about this on Autocar from JLR. They were saying that because the mass is in different places than a regular car they need to do things different, particularly crash safety. Aerodynamics also matter more, of course. I don't think that justifies the weird graphic on the C pillar but it illustrates that we need to get used to the difference. |
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Post by grampa on Sept 11, 2019 16:33:57 GMT
Why make it look like an MPV? - I thought they were yesterday's news?
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 11, 2019 20:38:31 GMT
Why make it look like an MPV? - I thought they were yesterday's news? I for one will be soooo happy if MPVs make a comeback :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 22:09:27 GMT
Better an MPV than a so called SUV. Most of which are 2WD anyway.
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Post by Ben on Sept 12, 2019 2:53:08 GMT
I quite like that. Neatly understated.
The wheels are a bit overdone though.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 12, 2019 10:41:12 GMT
There's something a bit late 1990s Mercedes concept car about it...
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 12, 2019 17:45:39 GMT
Better an MPV than a so called SUV. Most of which are 2WD anyway. Where in the rule book does it say SUVs have to be 4WD? |
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Post by humphreythepug on Sept 12, 2019 19:15:12 GMT
Still not overly sure on the styling, however it will sell well regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 20:34:45 GMT
Nowhere I know but a 4wd look with 2wd seems a bit pointless to me. Horses for course tho.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 8:19:32 GMT
Better an MPV than a so called SUV. Most of which are 2WD anyway. Where in the rule book does it say SUVs have to be 4WD? The rule book specifies 2wd these days.
It's in between the rules about being white and having a git plate!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 14, 2019 10:40:58 GMT
I can never understand why electric/hybrid/alternative fuel cars have to look wilfully different or so obviously "futuristic". Why can't they simply be styled like everything else or why can't everything else be styled with the kind of imagination thatis allowed on cars such as this? Why is there some kind of separation? There was a comment about this on Autocar from JLR. They were saying that because the mass is in different places than a regular car they need to do things different, particularly crash safety. Aerodynamics also matter more, of course. I don't think that justifies the weird graphic on the C pillar but it illustrates that we need to get used to the difference. I can appreciate that packaging has much to do with it, proportions mostly, but the ID3 looks like the concept version of a Golf, shown 2 or 3 years before it's finally released with vastly toned down styling. However, the styling remains. So I still don't quite get why that is unless is is purely marketing, in showing us that we are having that futuristic concept car now. Which all seems a bit false to me. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 14, 2019 11:22:49 GMT
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Proportion / looks:
An all-electric car does not have to have the same architecture as traditional petrol or diesel cars so the styling can be totally different but it still has to meet crash legislation.
The biggest issue is probably whether or not to offer something that looks like a traditional car as the public accept that shape, or go for something radically different which works with an all-electric car, but which may scare buyers away as they don't like its novel appearance. Look how opinion was divided when the Sierra was first launched
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Post by Ben on Sept 14, 2019 16:47:18 GMT
I feel like we seem to place an overemphasis on styling, and that most buyers don't really care what a car looks like as long as it meets their needs. Look at the Prius and Nissan Juke. Polarising looks but still selling in spades.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 14, 2019 18:03:02 GMT
I feel like we seem to place an overemphasis on styling, and that most buyers don't really care what a car looks like as long as it meets their needs. Look at the Prius and Nissan Juke. Polarising looks but still selling in spades. Do you think the Juke would have been as hugely successful if it was styled like one of the boring SEAT, Skoda, VW SUVs? |
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Post by Ben on Sept 15, 2019 3:52:24 GMT
I feel like we seem to place an overemphasis on styling, and that most buyers don't really care what a car looks like as long as it meets their needs. Look at the Prius and Nissan Juke. Polarising looks but still selling in spades. Do you think the Juke would have been as hugely successful if it was styled like one of the boring SEAT, Skoda, VW SUVs? Hard to say, but 'boring' SUVs aren't exactly slow sellers either. |
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Post by humphreythepug on Sept 15, 2019 8:53:16 GMT
Do you think the Juke would have been as hugely successful if it was styled like one of the boring SEAT, Skoda, VW SUVs? Hard to say, but 'boring' SUVs aren't exactly slow sellers either. The Juke isn't the best selling small crossover in the UK for nothing; its the styling that makes it the best seller, Captur is the second best selling, both of them are the most stylish of their ilk IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 8:53:28 GMT
The original Quashcow was a snorefest on wheels and that still flew out of showrooms...
The interior of this VW seems to be the same quality as the T-Roc, which is a shame, especially as it's probably nearing twice the price.
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Post by humphreythepug on Sept 15, 2019 8:55:10 GMT
The original Quashcow was a snorefest on wheels and that still flew out of showrooms... Agree, however it offered something different at the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 9:38:56 GMT
The interior of this VW seems to be the same quality as the T-Roc, which is a shame, especially as it's probably nearing twice the price. |
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