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Jul 21, 2020 7:39:11 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Jul 21, 2020 7:39:11 GMT
No need to carry 7 since the kids left school/uni.
No work being done on the house, and hasn't been for a few years.
I'm just saying - that's why I prefer an MPV to an SUV
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Jul 21, 2020 7:48:39 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 21, 2020 7:48:39 GMT
Why do you want an mpv over an suv I don’t like suvs really but would rather have one over an mpv . SUV's squander their height as extra ground clearance instead of interior space, for one thing. And seeing that the most off-roading most SUVs do is mounting kerbs, there's no real reason for such great ground clearance.... maybe in the USA things are different but not in the UK. Also, it's the "MP" bit I like - multi-purpose, so if I need to carry 7 in the car, I can. If I need to carry just me, I can fold seats down or remove them and load up with bricks, lengths of timber, bags of sand etc etc. An SUV is just like an "ordinary" car but with bigger ground clearance and possibly a bit more power to give it some element of sportiness. I'll take versatility and practicality over sportiness any day of the weekExcept you didn't, you bought a small SUV rather than an MPV when you had the choice! I bet you'd be fine with a Focus size hatchback as your only car, maybe an estate if you really think you need more space. Then on the very rare occasion that isn't big enough, it's less than £100 a day to rent a transit (even less for a Galaxy) and you're not stuck driving a van with windows (or a small SUV!) for the other 364 days of the year.
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Jul 21, 2020 7:56:52 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 21, 2020 7:56:52 GMT
People may be attracted to the supposed versatility of an MPV but when push comes to shove they opted for SUVs so manufacturers stopped making MPVs due to lack of demand.
Mrs Sacamano briefly had a Ulysses when she worked for a FIAT dealership and it was a 9 day novelty with it's Captain's chairs and removable second and third row. I think we took one chair out subsequently on a trip to Center Parcs and after that it was just a van with windows.
Even in the States their popularity with Soccer Moms is waning.
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Jul 21, 2020 8:22:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 8:22:57 GMT
Moved because of zero interest. Let's hope it fares better elsewhere...
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Jul 21, 2020 8:29:17 GMT
Post by Big Blue on Jul 21, 2020 8:29:17 GMT
Having had an MPV I can concur: they're not exciting even with a V6 engine. They are practical but only where you have a larger family and / or extended family visitors. An estate car does most of the carrying requirement (except the seats unless you have a Merc E-class with the flip up seats). SUV's have one other benefit that people forget: they're easier to get in and out of than a saloon/estate if you're averagely tall and getting older, aside from the taller viewing platform to see past all the MPVs that are in front of you blocking the view of car drivers.
Just like my tagline below, it's about choice. There was a choice of MPV, Car, estate, SUV and not many people were choosing MPV so they became less prevalent - freedom from choice means less decisions. It's all about numbers which is why there are so few small bespoke sports cars that aren't the MX-5 (or based on it) because that can sustain the numbers - the days of the Elan, the Sprite, the MGB, the S800 etc. are long gone with mass manufacturing and the associated tooling costs.
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Jul 21, 2020 10:06:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 10:06:47 GMT
Economical 3d printing may change that and lead to smaller batches of more interesting cars that change very quickly model to model with the same or similar drive trains. Electric propulsion will be an enabler in this. Remembering the Chrysler 'skateboard' especially which would be an example able to accept different configurations/body styles.
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Jul 23, 2020 20:08:48 GMT
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Post by Alex on Jul 23, 2020 20:08:48 GMT
Ordered Nandos in Glasgow but they gave me another couple's order. I went back and got the right food but by then they'd made the other peoples order again so said I may as well keep it. I'm absolutely stuffed!
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Jul 23, 2020 20:46:22 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Jul 23, 2020 20:46:22 GMT
Who needs oil in their engine?
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Jul 24, 2020 10:34:10 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 24, 2020 10:34:10 GMT
^ You used to see this sort of exercise carried out by companies selling oil additives - add to engine oil, run, drain sump, and then run with sump plug out to prove the NASA developed teflon super additive protects your engine, even without oil.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:35:42 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Jul 24, 2020 10:35:42 GMT
^ You used to see this sort of exercise carried out by companies selling oil additives - add to engine oil, run, drain sump, and then run with sump plug out to prove the NASA developed teflon super additive protects your engine, even without oil. ....and all along, coca-cola would do the same.......
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Jul 24, 2020 10:56:27 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 10:56:27 GMT
I still have a can of Slick 50 which is now so debated as to be a pointless exercise. I had it in my OLD engine which went pop but have not used it since. Unless there is a 100 percent approval I will leave it on the shelf where it is sitting now.
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Jul 24, 2020 14:15:46 GMT
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 24, 2020 14:15:46 GMT
Apparently its now required to wear a face mask when going into the kiosk to pay for fuel after filling up. Bizarre world we live in
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Jul 24, 2020 14:20:28 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 24, 2020 14:20:28 GMT
It's a shop, so I don't see that as a surprise at all.
ETA:I had to fill the Mazda. I put my mask on got out and filled up, went in and paid, got back in, used sanitiser and took the mask off. It's not that much of an inconvenience. Feels odd, but these are odd times.
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Jul 24, 2020 14:22:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 14:22:10 GMT
Apparently its now required to wear a face mask when going into the kiosk to pay for fuel after filling up. Bizarre world we live in I can't afford petrol anymore!
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Jul 24, 2020 14:31:19 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 24, 2020 14:31:19 GMT
Apparently its now required to wear a face mask when going into the kiosk to pay for fuel after filling up. Bizarre world we live in Hasn't 'Pay at Pump' reached the deep south yet? You guys are living in prehistoric times
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Jul 24, 2020 17:44:20 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 24, 2020 17:44:20 GMT
Apparently its now required to wear a face mask when going into the kiosk to pay for fuel after filling up. Bizarre world we live in Hasn't 'Pay at Pump' reached the deep south yet? You guys are living in prehistoric times Yes, just pay at the pump, no mask required. Saves time too.
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Jul 24, 2020 17:46:20 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 24, 2020 17:46:20 GMT
Shell and Esso have removed pay at pump and you need to use an app. Haven't tried it myself.
The only garages local to me that has pay at pump are the supermarkets.
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Jul 24, 2020 18:48:19 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 24, 2020 18:48:19 GMT
Hasn't 'Pay at Pump' reached the deep south yet? You guys are living in prehistoric times Yes, just pay at the pump, no mask required. Saves time too. I’ve also tried to go for pay at pump, hate queuing and it’s worse now so many places sell food. The Shell app is OK, but they take the max amount from your card and it took ages (well days) to get that credited which annoyed me, so I’ve only used it once.
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Jul 24, 2020 19:06:42 GMT
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Post by Alex on Jul 24, 2020 19:06:42 GMT
Shell and Esso have removed pay at pump and you need to use an app. Haven't tried it myself. The only garages local to me that has pay at pump are the supermarkets. Agree with you that wearing a mask is hardly a chore and I really don't see why some people are having spasms about it. If the science is right they'll be saving lives and if the science is wrong all it's cost is some minor discomfort that most reusable masks allow you to stop noticing quite quickly. Anyway re petrol I use Tesco pay at pump for the points so it doesn't affect me when filling up. You just occasional get shouted at when trying to scan the clubcard from your phone by paranoid staff who still think you can use a mobile to blow a petrol station sky high!
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Jul 24, 2020 20:21:22 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Jul 24, 2020 20:21:22 GMT
Tried 3 different face masks and my specs steam up with all of them, a real safety issue. They also irritate my skin, I hate wearing them but unfortunately it has to be done at the moment.
Anyway, filled the Fiesta today for the third consecutive time with £33-33's worth of fuel. Trouble is, that £33-33 buys less fuel with each visit :-(
No option to pay-at-pump where I filled up
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Jul 24, 2020 20:26:40 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 24, 2020 20:26:40 GMT
Tried 3 different face masks and my specs steam up with all of them, a real safety issue. They also irritate my skin, I hate wearing them but unfortunately it has to be done at the moment. Anyway, filled the Fiesta today for the third consecutive time with £33-33's worth of fuel. Trouble is, that £33-33 buys less fuel with each visit :-( No option to pay-at-pump where I filled up Have you tried an FPP2 with the metal strip that fits more snugly across the nose? I hesitate to ask....but why £33.33? And why not fill it up and visit the fuel station less, especially when you’re not happy with wearing a mask to pay.
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Jul 24, 2020 20:43:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 20:43:17 GMT
The ruling is "If you can" as far as I have seen it described. Some people may be able to argue against it. Talk to a GP. If you cannot see to drive that is a safety issue.
Luckily I get to pay at pump in Hasda.
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Jul 24, 2020 21:18:28 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 21:18:28 GMT
Our local Asda doesn't have a kiosk at all. Pay at pump only.
My plan is to only give money to those who don't make me wear a mask. They only prevent you from giving it to someone else, as it can get in through your eyes. If you know you don't have it you shouldn't have to wear one. It's an exercise in population control and I ain't buying it.
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Jul 24, 2020 21:45:13 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Jul 24, 2020 21:45:13 GMT
I hesitate to ask....but why £33.33? And why not fill it up and visit the fuel station less, especially when you’re not happy with wearing a mask to pay. It's a long-ish story. The first time was to fill it. The second time it was almost enough to fill it, and today was to put enough in for the next few days, which in practice has all-but filled it (the gauge is on full but the pump didn't cut out at all). It revolves around making sure it doesn't get too low in case I have to make a sudden unplanned journey, balanced with known mileage, for example trips into work or tomorrow to help younger daughter sort a few thing out in her flat when the fuel level was getting low. The Fiesta has quite a small fuel tank
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Jul 24, 2020 21:49:51 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 24, 2020 21:49:51 GMT
Ok, but why don’t you just brim it?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 24, 2020 22:43:11 GMT
Tried 3 different face masks and my specs steam up with all of them, a real safety issue. You don't have to drive with it on, despite what you see other numpties doing. I'm not going to moan about wearing a mask for 10 mins when shopping when nurses are wearing them for 12 hours a day, every day, along with all the other PPE.
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Jul 24, 2020 23:04:14 GMT
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Post by Alex on Jul 24, 2020 23:04:14 GMT
Our local Asda doesn't have a kiosk at all. Pay at pump only. My plan is to only give money to those who don't make me wear a mask. They only prevent you from giving it to someone else, as it can get in through your eyes. If you know you don't have it you shouldn't have to wear one. It's an exercise in population control and I ain't buying it. I really do hope you're joking but its difficult to tell at times and I do worry about where you may be getting your information from. This virus has an annoying habit of making its host infectious before symptoms start to appear. Everyone is being asked to wear a mask because you DON'T know if you have it or not. This has been commonly known now for a number of months and masks have been recommended by a number of trained and expirienced virologists and yet there are still people who would rather believe in conspiracy theories. Those scientist may well be wrong but just in case they are right I hardly think it's too difficult an ordeal to go through to pop on a mask before you pop in a shop. I'm not going to comment any more on this because its pissing me off having had my brother get extremely ill due to exposure to the public.
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Jul 25, 2020 9:29:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 9:29:47 GMT
No, I'm not joking. These face coverings are mostly useless. A lot of people are making their own that simply don't work and the surgical type ones that people are flocking to buy are probably being made in some hastily knocked up Chinese/Indian/Turkish sweatshop that are making profit from paranoia. They won't be hygienic in the first place and will subsequently create thousands of tonnes of unrecyclable waste that will need to be incinerated. Before long bins will be overflowing with them and that's only the ones that get put in bins. There are lots of cunts in the UK more than happy to drop litter and so these disposable masks will be fluttering around our streets along with the crisp packets and Costa cups before long. I can't wait...
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Jul 25, 2020 11:17:09 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 25, 2020 11:17:09 GMT
No, I'm not joking. These face coverings are mostly useless. A lot of people are making their own that simply don't work and the surgical type ones that people are flocking to buy are probably being made in some hastily knocked up Chinese/Indian/Turkish sweatshop that are making profit from paranoia. They won't be hygienic in the first place and will subsequently create thousands of tonnes of unrecyclable waste that will need to be incinerated. Before long bins will be overflowing with them and that's only the ones that get put in bins. There are lots of cunts in the UK more than happy to drop litter and so these disposable masks will be fluttering around our streets along with the crisp packets and Costa cups before long. I can't wait... My Italian friend has a test for your face mask. Put it on and if you can blow out a match or lighter through it, then it’s no good. If you can’t, wear it and save lives.
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Jul 25, 2020 12:36:25 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 12:36:25 GMT
The idea of the masks it too limit the spread of aerosolised virus, Droplets, nothing more. To have a complete screen against transmission you would need the full medical standard system.
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