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Post by racingteatray on Jun 27, 2019 10:34:27 GMT
Quite!
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Post by Alex on Jun 27, 2019 17:07:04 GMT
It’s not misleading you just read the figures in the wrong context!
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 27, 2019 20:17:10 GMT
It’s not misleading you just read the figures in the wrong context! Alastair Campbell would be proud of you
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Post by Tim on Jul 1, 2019 13:01:45 GMT
Is anyone anywhere keeping track of how much the 2 candidates are pledging to spend?
We must be up close to GDP by now with the latest giveaways!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 13:38:12 GMT
I know, how they can think anyone believes them is a short blonde teenaged girl (mystery.
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 9, 2019 20:34:16 GMT
Boris was absolutely terrible on the debate just now and yet they clapped him.
I despair completely. It’s beyond me to understand how anyone thinks Boris is suitable to be PM.
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Post by michael on Jul 9, 2019 20:58:17 GMT
I met him last week and ticked the box for Jeremy Hunt as soon as I got home.
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 10, 2019 15:26:22 GMT
I met him last week and ticked the box for Jeremy Hunt as soon as I got home. Glad to hear it. I think that's surely the reaction of most normal people! Did you get a sense of being in the minority though?
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 10, 2019 15:57:20 GMT
I voted for Boris. I am so past caring about Brexit as it has dragged on for so long, I need some comedy relief. I don't think Hunt can do anything other than try and fail to deliver Theresa May's deal. It's like asking which part of the shit sandwich would you like.
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Post by michael on Jul 10, 2019 16:49:05 GMT
I met him last week and ticked the box for Jeremy Hunt as soon as I got home. Glad to hear it. I think that's surely the reaction of most normal people! Did you get a sense of being in the minority though? I won't go into the details in a public place about why but I had gone with an open mind and returned home with one made up. As for minority, probably but by less of a margin than you'd think.
I was invited to a breakfast with Jeremy Hunt the following day and I don't regret my decision.
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 10, 2019 17:31:51 GMT
I voted for Boris. I am so past caring about Brexit as it has dragged on for so long, I need some comedy relief. I don't think Hunt can do anything other than try and fail to deliver Theresa May's deal. It's like asking which part of the shit sandwich would you like. And if he fucks things up even worse? Will that be comedy relief too?
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Post by PG on Jul 10, 2019 17:41:40 GMT
I voted for Boris. I am so past caring about Brexit as it has dragged on for so long, I need some comedy relief. I don't think Hunt can do anything other than try and fail to deliver Theresa May's deal. It's like asking which part of the shit sandwich would you like. And if he fucks things up even worse? Will that be comedy relief too? Unless your name is Jeremy Corbyn (or one of his acolytes) I can't see how anybody could fuck things up more than Theresa May. In which case, whatever Boris does it cannot be even worse. The fact that the BBC, Guardian, media luvvies and a lot of the "establishment" (like John Major) hate him, just makes him more appealing.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 10, 2019 19:14:33 GMT
I voted for Boris. I am so past caring about Brexit as it has dragged on for so long, I need some comedy relief. I don't think Hunt can do anything other than try and fail to deliver Theresa May's deal. It's like asking which part of the shit sandwich would you like. And if he fucks things up even worse? Will that be comedy relief too? I would dearly love to know how that would even be possible.
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 10, 2019 19:18:13 GMT
And if he fucks things up even worse? Will that be comedy relief too? Unless your name is Jeremy Corbyn (or one of his acolytes) I can't see how anybody could fuck things up more than Theresa May. In which case, whatever Boris does it cannot be even worse. The fact that the BBC, Guardian, media luvvies and a lot of the "establishment" (like John Major) hate him, just makes him more appealing. Johnson - born in Manhattan's smart Upper East Side, brought up in expat comfort, educated at private prep school, Eton and Oxford, member of the Bullingdon Club, Secretary and President of the Oxford Union, married an aristocrat, trainee journalist at The Times through family connections, columnist for the Telegraph, Editor of the Spectator, MP for Henley at 37, Mayor of London, then MP again. Hoping to become PM at 55.
Major - born in Surrey, brought up in Brixton, educated at comprehensive and grammar school, left school at 16, never went to university, worked in the real economy, eventually becoming a banker before switching to politics and becoming an MP at 36 and PM at 54.
So, really, who is the actual Establishment figure here?
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 10, 2019 19:20:15 GMT
I actually liked Major. He came across as a nice guy, but weak.
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 10, 2019 19:20:28 GMT
And if he fucks things up even worse? Will that be comedy relief too? I would dearly love to know how that would even be possible. Do you dearly want to find out?
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 10, 2019 19:34:25 GMT
Unless something miraculous happens, I can seriously see Corbyn getting in and I belive that could happen whomever wins the leadership.
Reset button needs a press IMO. I don't want Corbyn, obviously. I'm not a stupid person. I am, however, powerless to stop what is happening though, vote or not so I will roll with it and see what happens.
If the Lib Dems had a decent presence then that's where my vote would lie in a GE for what it is worth.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jul 10, 2019 21:32:50 GMT
Just what do you expect from Hunt that you didn’t get with May. Hunt just seems a pointless exchange.
I appreciate that Boris is a risk but we’re screwed in our current format so need someone to rethink brexit
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 10, 2019 21:36:04 GMT
Just what do you expect from Hunt that you didn’t get with May. Hunt just seems a pointless exchange. I appreciate that Boris is a risk but we’re screwed in our current format so need someone to rethink brexit Exactly.
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 10, 2019 22:07:02 GMT
Boris won’t do anything different either because there isn’t anything different to do. He’ll just balls up everything else.
Boris isn’t trustworthy on anything and that includes Brexit.
I’m fairly certain a Boris Brexit will be pretty much BRINO. And then we are just stuck with Boris. Who is an arse.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 10, 2019 22:25:22 GMT
Like I said. Which part of the shit sandwich do you want?
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 10, 2019 22:35:18 GMT
Not the Boris spam filling. This was in today’s Evening Standard:
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Post by Tim on Jul 11, 2019 8:03:55 GMT
And if he fucks things up even worse? Will that be comedy relief too? Unless your name is Jeremy Corbyn (or one of his acolytes) I can't see how anybody could fuck things up more than Theresa May. In which case, whatever Boris does it cannot be even worse. The fact that the BBC, Guardian, media luvvies and a lot of the "establishment" (like John Major) hate him, just makes him more appealing. I bet John Major would be amused to see his name alongside the Guardian and 'media luvvies'!! I'm also pretty certain that all you lot going on about the 'real danger' of a Corbyn Government are falling for some hard-line Brexit Tory Project Fear. The guy was so far behind Theresa May in the opinion polls that Labour are never going to get in and they're only making the situation worse with their total inability to deal with Anti-Semitism.
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Post by michael on Jul 11, 2019 8:33:56 GMT
Just what do you expect from Hunt that you didn’t get with May. Hunt just seems a pointless exchange. I appreciate that Boris is a risk but we’re screwed in our current format so need someone to rethink brexit I don't really agree with this. People aren't so one dimensional that they can be defined on how they voted on Brexit. I'd say Hunt would take a different approach to May when dealing with Brexit but others matters to. Her shortcomings weren't down to how she voted in the referendum, it was down to who she was.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 11, 2019 8:48:15 GMT
Just what do you expect from Hunt that you didn’t get with May. Hunt just seems a pointless exchange. I appreciate that Boris is a risk but we’re screwed in our current format so need someone to rethink brexit I don't really agree with this. People aren't so one dimensional that they can be defined on how they voted on Brexit. I'd say Hunt would take a different approach to May when dealing with Brexit but others matters to. Her shortcomings weren't down to how she voted in the referendum, it was down to who she was. Not just who she was, but also the scale of the task. Those who glibly say we'll get a better deal from the EU and world trade organisations just don't understand our position in this:
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 11, 2019 9:01:22 GMT
Quite so.
Boris is a fraud, primarily on those who vote for him.
There was a moment when I thought maybe Boris is the only one who can deal with this. And then I listened to him and read what he wrote, and realised that no, I don't think he is even remotely the answer.
I don't trust him at all to behave in good faith in the best interests of this country, and that for me means he is not fit to be PM.
I don't trust Jeremy Corbyn to act in the best interests of this country either, but crucially that's because I think he's wrong in his beliefs and not because he acts in bad faith. On the other hand, Boris doesn't appear to have any beliefs beyond in himself. His chucking under the bus of our ambassador to Washington is a case in point.
I really hope May finds a pair of balls in short order and appoints a new ambassador before Johnson gets the chance to.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jul 11, 2019 9:25:34 GMT
If the option had been Gove or Boris I'd have taken Gove but Hunt just doesn't come across as a hard-line politician and therefore the county will never get behind him.
This was Mays problem and will be Hunts problem. He's a vanilla man in a world that wants rum and raisin.
A brash personality has little to do with talent of course but maybe we have to go through our Trump moment before we get back to someone Grey and the public can then put it behind them for 30 years.
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 11, 2019 10:16:09 GMT
This was Mays problem and will be Hunts problem. He's a vanilla man in a world that wants rum and raisin. I'm not sure I can see Boris as any sort of ice-cream other than a knickerbocker glory.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jul 11, 2019 11:01:56 GMT
More Banana Split but agreed
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 11, 2019 13:25:20 GMT
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