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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 13, 2019 15:06:30 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 13, 2019 15:36:32 GMT
I've liked MINIs ever since my summer sojourn with one last year but can't escape the feeling that the Clubman version reminds me in appearance of a slightly squashed toad. I assume it would be the keen driver's choice.
But I think I'd be tempted by the i3 for the mix of use you describe, notwithstanding that I'm not a great fan of the dashboard.
The 2er is just wilfully dull.
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 13, 2019 15:37:42 GMT
Could you get away with having the i3 ? Would be an individual choice !
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Post by michael on Mar 13, 2019 15:44:29 GMT
The i3 parked up next to the Standard in the garage would be quite something.
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Post by johnc on Mar 13, 2019 15:58:51 GMT
My order of preference would be i3, Mini then 2 Series.
I am very drawn by the i8 myself but the salesman told me I would have trouble getting my golf shoes in, let alone the clubs! I drove an i3 at Palmer Sport about 16mths ago and 4 up it was still very sprightly. With the range extender I think it ticks all the boxes although the looks are something of an acquired taste.
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 13, 2019 16:03:28 GMT
The i3 parked up next to the Standard in the garage would be quite something. I quite like that idea myself and that is one of my reasons for considering one. |
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Post by Andy C on Mar 13, 2019 16:18:14 GMT
i3 definitely
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Post by Tim on Mar 13, 2019 16:34:50 GMT
i3 ahead of Mini or the BMW Zafira but definitely not in white.
What about a non-premium marque though?
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 13, 2019 16:51:44 GMT
i3 ahead of Mini or the BMW Zafira but definitely not in white. What about a non-premium marque though? Having experienced the Mini it is clear that the 'premium' part of it is much more than just skin deep. I now find anything mainstream just doesn't deliver either driver enjoyment or design and quality in quite the same way. That is not to say that I would buy anything with a Mini / BMW / Audi / Benz / Jaguar badge, but it is a useful starting point. |
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Post by Martin on Mar 13, 2019 17:23:39 GMT
My first thought before I read down the thread or clicked on the links was that an i3 would be ideal. Based on the usage you’ve given, I wouldn’t bother lugging a generator around.
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Post by Martin on Mar 13, 2019 17:32:30 GMT
i3 ahead of Mini or the BMW Zafira but definitely not in white. What about a non-premium marque though? Having experienced the Mini it is clear that the 'premium' part of it is much more than just skin deep. I now find anything mainstream just doesn't deliver either driver enjoyment or design and quality in quite the same way. That is not to say that I would buy anything with a Mini / BMW / Audi / Benz / Jaguar badge, but it is a useful starting point. I know exactly what you mean, felt the same when looking for something to replace the 130i, the Mini was the only small car that I was happy with getting. Still worth keeping an open mind, the Golf feels similarly well engineered, at least it does in R spec which engine aside, feels like a more expensive car than a similarly priced BMW. It genuinely flows down the road in a very similar way to a Porsche. But in your position with such a low mileage, I’d get an i3. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 17:32:32 GMT
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Post by Alex on Mar 13, 2019 19:28:32 GMT
Given the low daily mileage is it worth looking at going full electric with a Nissan Leaf? I know it probably doesn’t have the quality feel of an i3 but does appear much more car like in proportions so may be more practical. The i3 does look good though so I wouldn’t say it’s a bad choice at all.
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Post by PG on Mar 13, 2019 19:29:39 GMT
With that mileage pattern, pure electric would work for you. It's non premium, but a low miles new shape Leaf would work for you to compare against an i3. Or a Mini Countryman PHEV?
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 13, 2019 19:53:38 GMT
The Mini has appeal but not in a dull colour and wheel combo of that linked.
The 2 is just a no as it goes against everything that BMW should be in my mind.
The i3, goes against what I've said above but I find them very appealing. I bizarrely like the look and I different enough to stand out against most other dull cars.
Is the answer for nearly all 20k hatch questions not Golf GTi?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:46:29 GMT
i3 makes more sense to me too. Being able to plug it in will make trips less painful. Retain more value possibly too.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 14, 2019 11:01:11 GMT
The drivetrain of the 2 in a MINI body would be ideal. As bland and horrid as that 2 is, the performance isn't bad.
I'd go for the i3.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 14, 2019 11:04:51 GMT
EGolf?
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 14, 2019 11:21:36 GMT
Well it looks like the i3 has been ruled out due to range anxiety (I know, I know...). Herself is known for being over cautious and the thought of having to find a charging point somewhere when visiting her parents or stopping on the motorway when going to a conference completely puts her off the idea. Ho hum.
It looks like it is going to be another Mini and are probably going to the one in the OP at the weekend. We also have seen a couple of well-specced Cooper S versions and a very nice green All4 JCW version, but maybe a 2-litre turbo is a bit OTT for the sort of use it will have? We shall look at a few and go from there.
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Post by Alex on Mar 14, 2019 15:41:06 GMT
Well it looks like the i3 has been ruled out due to range anxiety (I know, I know...). Herself is known for being over cautious and the thought of having to find a charging point somewhere when visiting her parents or stopping on the motorway when going to a conference completely puts her off the idea. Ho hum. It looks like it is going to be another Mini and are probably going to the one in the OP at the weekend. We also have seen a couple of well-specced Cooper S versions and a very nice green All4 JCW version, but maybe a 2-litre turbo is a bit OTT for the sort of use it will have? We shall look at a few and go from there. This is why electric cars are a long way from being the mainstay of the UK car fleet. Not to be critical of your wife as a lot of buyers are thinking the same, but how often does she go to conferences or on journeys of more than 50miles? A lot of people with range anxiety are not even single car households so just need to plan their travel to use the petrol powered car on the odd occasion they need to do a long journey. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 16:18:03 GMT
I thought the i3 you were looking at had an engine too for range extension. How can you get range anxiety with that?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 14, 2019 16:36:12 GMT
I thought the i3 you were looking at had an engine too for range extension. How can you get range anxiety with that? The range extender is a motorcycle engine with a commensurately small fuel tank (9 litres) so if you were going down the motorway on a long journey you would have to fill up every 150 or so miles running on petrol alone, once the electric had run out. Think of it as an emergency back up so you don't get stranded. |
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Post by Alex on Mar 14, 2019 16:38:23 GMT
I thought the i3 you were looking at had an engine too for range extension. How can you get range anxiety with that? The range extender is a motorcycle engine with a commensurately small fuel tank (9 litres) so if you were going down the motorway on a long journey you would have to fill up every 150 or so miles running on petrol alone, once the electric had run out. IIRC it’s not connected to the wheels, it just charges the battery so you can still run out of power. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 14, 2019 16:40:48 GMT
The range extender is a motorcycle engine with a commensurately small fuel tank (9 litres) so if you were going down the motorway on a long journey you would have to fill up every 150 or so miles running on petrol alone, once the electric had run out. IIRC it’s not connected to the wheels, it just charges the battery so you can still run out of power. Yes, so as long as you're not more than 100-150 miles from a charging point you can run the batteries completely flat but still get home. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 16:46:52 GMT
What would the total range be with the motor charging the battery too? Must be a fair bit I would have thought.
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Post by Martin on Mar 14, 2019 17:29:43 GMT
Some buying advice from Chris Harris. Depending on the size of small car you want, you should choose either an Up, Fiesta or Golf. Chris Harris Buying Advice |
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Post by Andy C on Mar 14, 2019 17:57:23 GMT
My bro has just ordered one of these. Great deal and 0% finance FR 1.0 with 100hp. It’s a cracking car and doesn’t feel like a supermini at all . I would go for a fiesta because it probably does drive slightly better , but he’s not a petrolhead and the Ibiza drove well enough  |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 14, 2019 22:07:48 GMT
What would the total range be with the motor charging the battery too? Must be a fair bit I would have thought. 200 miles in total. |
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 15, 2019 7:52:19 GMT
I think the Ibiza beat the Fiesta to the title of What Car mag's "best supermini" recently. With so much choice in the marketplace, surely it's best to avoid going for the same again, and time to try something different
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Post by bryan on Mar 15, 2019 8:12:01 GMT
Isn't the point of the i3 rex that you can too up that little tank to get you where you need to be. So there maybe irritation at frequently refueling but no range anxiety?
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