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Post by Martin on Jan 8, 2019 19:36:06 GMT
Not a surprise at all following the X5 and X7, but that grille....oh dear. I suppose it’s quite imposing if thats your thing, but I won’t be rushing to get one. Its going to be launched on the 15th, so we’ll get to see it properly then.  |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 8, 2019 19:44:07 GMT
I suppose it'll stop the 7 being mistaken for a 5 but bloody hell!
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Post by Martin on Jan 8, 2019 19:46:10 GMT
It will until they facelift the 5!
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Post by PG on Jan 8, 2019 21:34:35 GMT
Audi, Merc and BMW used to have a horsepower race at the top end. Now they have a grille race. Who can make the biggest and most awful and pointless grille. It's pretty neck and neck at the moment IMHO. But BMW may be about to sneak ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:11:38 GMT
Do they have some discard designers from Audi?
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Post by Ben on Jan 9, 2019 4:27:17 GMT
Oh no...
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Post by johnc on Jan 9, 2019 8:14:10 GMT
I am hoping it is just the angle that is making that grill look so ridiculous but who in their right mind would consider that to be attractive? In fact it is so grossly ugly that I find myself embarrassed to look at it!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 9, 2019 8:38:52 GMT
People criticized the Bangle designs but there was a design language there that could be defended and explained. It made sense and moved the brand on, reinvigorating the styling of BMWs for years after. I also think that they aged well and people grew into them, something which good design should aim for. Now BMW seem to just stick ever larger grilles on everything because they think that's what the Asian market want.
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 9, 2019 8:55:57 GMT
Why has "good looking" car design gone out of the window?
We have cars that feature different front-end (bumper) designs for different trim levels, so why not different bumper arrangements for Europe and for Asia rather than have "Asian styling" dominate in Europe where it just looks naff?
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2019 10:02:56 GMT
People criticized the Bangle designs but there was a design language there that could be defended and explained. It made sense and moved the brand on, reinvigorating the styling of BMWs for years after. I also think that they aged well and people grew into them, something which good design should aim for. Now BMW seem to just stick ever larger grilles on everything because they think that's what the Asian market want. Completely agree, they all looked better as tome went on, I still really like the look of an E60 in M sport trim. |
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Post by Tim on Jan 9, 2019 10:20:46 GMT
People criticized the Bangle designs but there was a design language there that could be defended and explained. It made sense and moved the brand on, reinvigorating the styling of BMWs for years after. I also think that they aged well and people grew into them, something which good design should aim for. Now BMW seem to just stick ever larger grilles on everything because they think that's what the Asian market want. Completely agree, they all looked better as tome went on, I still really like the look of an E60 in M sport trim.
Agreed although I've recently seen a couple of low spec early E60s in pale metallics and it makes you realise the desirability of ticking the M Sport box.
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2019 10:27:09 GMT
Completely agree, they all looked better as tome went on, I still really like the look of an E60 in M sport trim.
Agreed although I've recently seen a couple of low spec early E60s in pale metallics and it makes you realise the desirability of ticking the M Sport box.
Definitely. I always thought that Bangle designed what turned out to be the M Sport trim, then worked out how to turn it into an SE rather than the other way around. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 9, 2019 10:39:06 GMT
This will do marvellous things for your residuals surely!
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2019 10:40:10 GMT
This will do marvellous things for your residuals surely! Hopefully! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:10:30 GMT
Never mind the grille, the bonnet's pretty horrid, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:12:46 GMT
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jan 9, 2019 12:58:33 GMT
My eyes, my eyes!
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Post by PG on Jan 9, 2019 13:35:19 GMT
It is as bad a feared.  |
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Post by Tim on Jan 9, 2019 13:50:27 GMT
What's the point in slimming down the headlights and then sticking Bugs Bunny on the front?
That's truly atrocious.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 9, 2019 14:10:42 GMT
It is as bad a feared. I saw an episode of The Walking Dead where they were throwing zombies into something that looked just like that grille. Minced them up good and proper. Maybe the designer is a fan? |
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Post by michael on Jan 9, 2019 14:25:01 GMT
I saw an episode of The Walking Dead where they were throwing zombies into something that looked just like that grille. Minced them up good and proper. Maybe the designer is a fan? You can be sure there is a fan behind it. |
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2019 14:26:22 GMT
It is as bad a feared. As a 7 spotter, I can tell you that’s the M760Li I think the grille on mine is borderline too big, but that must be a couple of inches deeper and made to look even bigger with the slimmer headlights. The interior is going to remain broadly the same, with only changes to the instruments from the 8 series (which I don’t like), the latest idrive OS and an updated HUD. It will look exactly the same to most people. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 17:52:44 GMT
The picture I linked to looks worse than that one. Asian market special hopefully!
The grille reminds me of the scary heater in Home Alone.
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Post by Boxer6 on Jan 9, 2019 18:26:22 GMT
The picture I linked to looks worse than that one. Asian market special hopefully! The grille reminds me of the scary heater in Home Alone. This is much better sized!   |
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2019 18:32:50 GMT
The picture I linked to looks worse than that one. Asian market special hopefully! The grille reminds me of the scary heater in Home Alone. No, I think that’s the same, just the angle making it look even worse. If that’s possible. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 20:06:41 GMT
It was the lower bumper that's different...
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2019 20:11:12 GMT
Another angle. I like the slim headlights, if the grille finished in line with the top of them it would be so much better  The rear is very similar, slightly slimmer lights and a full width light strip like everyone else is doing, but as least it’s partly disguised by the trim strip.  |
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 9, 2019 21:01:07 GMT
When it gets to the stage that the headlights are smaller than the grille openings and smaller than the air intakes, fake or otherwise, it's a sad state of car design.
Wheel designs and light designs kind-of "make" the way that a car looks. Mess these up and the car will look awful (IMHO) as has been amply demonstrated above, I believe
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Post by michael on Jan 9, 2019 21:05:47 GMT
That looks horrible. I think we will learn to accept the grill in the same way we accept the horrible bumper moulding and that ugly slab of plastic shoved on the corner of the intake. I think we will just grow to accept that modern cars look disappointing.
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2019 21:21:07 GMT
I hadn’t even really paid any attention to the huge openings..... Makes mine look even better!  |
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