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Post by Tim on Mar 31, 2020 11:23:47 GMT
Ooh that's stunning. These and 3200's would be ideal for a fantasy (but reasonably priced garage). Not one I'd rely on for a daily driver, though... It's a lovely colour but I don't like the alloys, albeit not a problem if you paid under £10k for the car, and I always wish Maserati had stuck with the boomerang rear lights.
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 31, 2020 13:01:01 GMT
I like those alloys but would want them repainted the original silver. The "paedo shoe grey" leather interior is where it primarily falls down for me.
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Post by Tim on Mar 31, 2020 14:11:04 GMT
I was choosing to ignore the interior. It's not the worst version of paedo grey I've ever seen
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 3, 2020 18:22:38 GMT
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Post by Martin on Apr 3, 2020 18:36:14 GMT
That’s expensive isn’t it? I’m sure you could get one 3 years younger for no more than £30k. I used to like those wheels, but they look very dated now.
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Post by PG on Apr 3, 2020 19:42:47 GMT
Nice interior colour combination.
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Post by Roadrunner on Apr 4, 2020 10:48:57 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 4, 2020 23:17:30 GMT
That’s expensive isn’t it? I’m sure you could get one 3 years younger for no more than £30k. I used to like those wheels, but they look very dated now. Yes but there’s a substantial difference between £23k and £30k, and this one has the advantage of considerably cheaper road tax.
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Post by PetrolEd on Apr 6, 2020 8:43:18 GMT
That’s expensive isn’t it? I’m sure you could get one 3 years younger for no more than £30k. I used to like those wheels, but they look very dated now. Yes but there’s a substantial difference between £23k and £30k, and this one has the advantage of considerably cheaper road tax. Wow someone optioned a 3/4 series in a spec thats not boring. If I look on Autotrader they seem to be 95% black leather with aluminium dash. Love that interior, is it standard or Individual?
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Post by PetrolEd on Apr 6, 2020 8:47:30 GMT
Still lovely to look at too. Its the running costs that keep the price in check I guess. And odd that a 612, which I never liked the look of is still around 65K
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Post by Martin on Apr 6, 2020 9:08:50 GMT
Yes but there’s a substantial difference between £23k and £30k, and this one has the advantage of considerably cheaper road tax. Wow someone optioned a 3/4 series in a spec thats not boring. If I look on Autotrader they seem to be 95% black leather with aluminium dash. Love that interior, is it standard or Individual? It's the standard Dakota leather (Saddle Brown). There are always a few for sale with Merino leather, which is well worth searching for, but they're usually Opal White.
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Post by Tim on Apr 6, 2020 9:31:31 GMT
Wow someone optioned a 3/4 series in a spec thats not boring. If I look on Autotrader they seem to be 95% black leather with aluminium dash. Love that interior, is it standard or Individual? It's the standard Dakota leather (Saddle Brown). There are always a few for sale with Merino leather, which is well worth searching for, but they're usually Opal White. I can't see the mileage on that?
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Post by Martin on Apr 6, 2020 9:43:26 GMT
It's the standard Dakota leather (Saddle Brown). There are always a few for sale with Merino leather, which is well worth searching for, but they're usually Opal White. I can't see the mileage on that? 31,911 (picture of dashboard)
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Post by Tim on Apr 6, 2020 9:49:45 GMT
Thanks. The price of all 3/4 series often strikes me as odd as there are cars at 3 years old that are only slightly cheaper than 6 month old versions that are ostensibly the same. However there are potentially huge spec differences and I think that plays a large part, e.g. a newer car with 18" alloys is much closer in price to an older one with the 19s. 6 - 12 month old cars that seem like a bargain can often be hair shirt - the number of 335ds on the market without heated seats, for example, is quite astonishing
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Post by Martin on Apr 6, 2020 9:56:20 GMT
Thanks. The price of all 3/4 series often strikes me as odd as there are cars at 3 years old that are only slightly cheaper than 6 month old versions that are ostensibly the same. However there are potentially huge spec differences and I think that plays a large part, e.g. a newer car with 18" alloys is much closer in price to an older one with the 19s. 6 - 12 month old cars that seem like a bargain can often be hair shirt - the number of 335ds on the market without heated seats, for example, is quite astonishing Easy and cheap enough to get a decent set of genuine 19" alloys and you could use the 18s for winter tyres. I get the point that the cars under a year old are £7k or so more expensive than one 3 years older, but that's less than £200 a month depreciation, so well worth spending the extra imo.
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Post by johnc on Apr 6, 2020 10:41:31 GMT
the number of 335ds on the market without heated seats, for example, is quite astonishing A cost option on the 3 but standard on the 4 Series! A 4 is a very versatile car with the rear seats folded down. However if you need it for carrying things like fridges and washing machines then a 3 Touring is the only option.
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Post by Tim on Apr 6, 2020 12:51:14 GMT
the number of 335ds on the market without heated seats, for example, is quite astonishing A cost option on the 3 but standard on the 4 Series! A 4 is a very versatile car with the rear seats folded down. However if you need it for carrying things like fridges and washing machines then a 3 Touring is the only option. One of the reasons I started looking at 4s was that if you get a 3 litre (diesel or petrol) then you also get electric, heated seats. There will be no fridges, etc put in the back of the car for a while although I will have a few loads of stuff to take to the dump when all this is over. I think a 4x4 and a trailer might be in order thus freeing me up to get another 370Z or similar
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 6, 2020 13:27:33 GMT
Yes but there’s a substantial difference between £23k and £30k, and this one has the advantage of considerably cheaper road tax. Wow someone optioned a 3/4 series in a spec thats not boring. If I look on Autotrader they seem to be 95% black leather with aluminium dash. Love that interior, is it standard or Individual? It's the exact same interior combination that I have in my car - Saddle Dakota leather with Anthracite Fineline wood trim. The leather was no-cost and the wood trim was a £100 option. I steered clear of the various Individual options as they added 3-4 months to the delivery time meaning I risked not getting it before the tax changes kicked in, plus they add nothing to the GFV so have a pretty inflationary effect on the monthly PCP payments. Money no object, I'd have had it painted individual Oxford Green II, with the full leather interior (including dash) in individual Cohiba Brown, and had either the maple or auburn individual wood trim. But that's over £6k's worth of options.
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Post by Andy C on Apr 9, 2020 5:54:51 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 9, 2020 8:45:17 GMT
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Post by Tim on Apr 9, 2020 9:00:37 GMT
That is lovely. Aside from the overall shape of the car one thing that's striking when you look at the pictures is the depth of the side windows. Compared with a current equivalent it'd be like sitting in a greenhouse - no bad thing as being able to see out helps progress significantly!
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Post by Martin on Apr 9, 2020 9:53:57 GMT
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Post by Tim on Apr 9, 2020 11:51:37 GMT
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Post by johnc on Apr 9, 2020 12:29:40 GMT
I have a friend who bought a 2007 M3 about 2 years after I bought my 335D in Dec 2006 and he still has it. However he had a fairly major engine/clutch/suspension rebuild at 80K miles, last year and was complaining that there was something else that was going to need done this year which he thought would be about £2K. After his £6K+ bill from last year this is the first time he has considered getting rid of it!
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Post by Tim on Apr 9, 2020 12:50:14 GMT
It has spectacular money pit possibilities.
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Post by alf on Apr 9, 2020 14:20:39 GMT
Some nice stuff there. The E9X V8 M3's are one I keep a close eye on - a bit "standard 3 series" inside, weak brakes, but..... that engine and handling! I was lucky to drive one at Bedford Autodrome and the engine is a strong memory from the day.
That Ferrari - like most of them these days - I can't get excited about as they are going for so much more now than a few years ago. I fondly recall good 308's being sub £20k, 328's 20-30, manual 360's and 355's £30-40k (less for some 360's). 456's and 550's were a total bargain as well, not that long ago. The current prices make it hard to buy them as a car to use. Like NSX's, and many older Lambos, their interest for me has gone for that reason.
Some Maseratis still seem great value, and I have a real soft spot for E34 M5's but I suspect they are well into money pit territory now... Another real-world one is the E46 M3, not one of the special editions - and like the E90 I'd consider a convertible as a toy. There is a lovely deep purple/blue E46 M3 cab a few doors down that I want every time I walk past it, having been thoroughly converted as to the joys of open top motoring by our 1 series.
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 9, 2020 14:27:20 GMT
It has spectacular money pit possibilities. Ask Dan - he must have had his for at least a decade by now.
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Post by Tim on Apr 9, 2020 14:38:43 GMT
It has spectacular money pit possibilities. Ask Dan - he must have had his for at least a decade by now. I expect his is well maintained though, I was more thinking of buying one at 12 years old with 120k miles on the clock and possibly some iffy service history. I think the 4 door has the most stealth look though and I can put up with a 3 series interior when I'll be busy looking out of the side glass half the time
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Post by Roadrunner on Apr 10, 2020 11:00:15 GMT
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Post by michael on Apr 10, 2020 15:53:33 GMT
The car has aged well but the wheels have not.
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