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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 13:10:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 13:37:20 GMT
Surely the original item should bother you more?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 14:22:26 GMT
I would say that was fake, mostly because even a dolt like her wouldn't put a left shoe on her right foot.
Unless said foot has changed shape where it's always in her fat gob, of course?
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Post by johnc on Dec 14, 2019 14:23:03 GMT
I'm not sure how they can call photoshopping racist: that appears to be a massive leap of illogical thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 14:35:00 GMT
It's amazing how toxic Corbyn was on the doorstep. Labours anti Semitism came up over and over again which was really reassuring that people do care about racism. This was probably a factor, too.
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Post by michael on Dec 14, 2019 16:19:38 GMT
I'm not sure how they can call photoshopping racist: that appears to be a massive leap of illogical thinking. It seems if you criticise Diane Abbott it’s because you’re racist and not because she’s an idiot. Hands held up, it’s clearly photoshopped.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 16:56:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
Love the fact that Boris chose Sedgefield for his NE visit today. Bliar must be spitting feathers!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 17:29:12 GMT
Bluech can take a hike. Anyone remember the eu presidential campaign when he was supposed to be in the running? "I'm not going to enter but if they ask me I'll do it"? Typical.
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Post by Stuntman on Dec 14, 2019 17:55:03 GMT
I only came across this today, but it made me laugh. Should have posted it before election day:
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Post by scouse on Dec 15, 2019 4:15:59 GMT
From Abbott’s own twitter page
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 9:34:24 GMT
So she does have two left feet!
Also, isn't it illegal to campaign on an election day?
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 15, 2019 10:57:17 GMT
I understand that there is a campaign among Conservative supporters to sign up to the Labour party and vote in Diane Abbott as the next leader.
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Post by michael on Dec 15, 2019 11:22:57 GMT
I understand that there is a campaign among Conservative supporters to sign up to the Labour party and vote in Diane Abbott as the next leader. Following on from tories for Corbyn. It would be £3 well spent.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 12:13:18 GMT
If it keeps the laboured partly out of it long enough, well worth it. Fatbutt for leader.......
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Post by humphreythepug on Dec 15, 2019 14:45:18 GMT
From Abbott’s own twitter page Just look at them, says it all really and they even have a Corbyn look alike, sad thing is I can see my mum with that lot!!
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 16, 2019 0:43:39 GMT
If it keeps the laboured partly out of it long enough, well worth it. Fatbutt for leader....... Actually I’d rather there was a strong opposition party keeping the Government honest myself. I only hope that Johnson’s rumoured February reshuffle kicks some of the horrors like Priti Patel and Dominic Raab far into the back benches. But I worry about the prospect of Lord Cummings. Urgh. Just urgh.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 16, 2019 8:24:27 GMT
If it keeps the laboured partly out of it long enough, well worth it. Fatbutt for leader....... Actually I’d rather there was a strong opposition party keeping the Government honest myself. I only hope that Johnson’s rumoured February reshuffle kicks some of the horrors like Priti Patel and Dominic Raab far into the back benches. But I worry about the prospect of Lord Cummings. Urgh. Just urgh. In a world where average Civil Servants receive Knighthoods simply for turning up on time to work for 30 years it would seem churlish to deny a peerage to the man who delivered us from Corbynism, no?
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Post by michael on Dec 16, 2019 10:23:22 GMT
If it keeps the laboured partly out of it long enough, well worth it. Fatbutt for leader....... Actually I’d rather there was a strong opposition party keeping the Government honest myself. This is the opportunity for the Lib Dems and they really need to seize it. From what I'm seeing on the Labour channels they've already started eating themselves so I don't think there is going to be any strength from them for a while.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 16, 2019 10:23:27 GMT
And there was me thinking it was the electorate who delivered us from Corbynism by not buying a word of it...
Or are we back to viewing the electorate as not capable of thinking beyond Cummings' messaging? Because we were told that was elitist when it came to Brexit...
Besides don't you think we ought to see how Brexit turns out first, before giving any of its authors any gongs?
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 16, 2019 10:33:32 GMT
Actually I’d rather there was a strong opposition party keeping the Government honest myself. This is the opportunity for the Lib Dems and they really need to seize it. From what I'm seeing on the Labour channels they've already started eating themselves so I don't think there is going to be any strength from them for a while. Agreed but I'm not sure they are capable of it. Whatever they once might have known about the art of being electable they have long since forgotten. The pledge to cancel Brexit annoyed me as soon as I heard about it. Not because I disagree with it but because I'm sufficiently awake to recognise a patent vote-killer when I see one. Then there was all the preachy eco-stuff. Again not that I necessarily disagree with it, but why does it have to be in the manifesto - it just limits the audience unnecessarily. Had they campaigned as a softer version of the Tories with a wishy-washy and unscary manifesto peppered with a few crowd-pleasers and as little as possible on the preachy eco-stuff, then they'd have been preaching to the converted. Toryism without Boris and his cabinet of ghouls, and with a promise to not pursue Brexit at all costs. Not saying it would have won the day by any means, but it would have done much better than it did.
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Post by Tim on Dec 16, 2019 10:35:29 GMT
I also hope we very quickly manage to get a strong opposition but I just don't see how that's going to happen any time soon.
The thought of BoJo not punting some of the more hardline members of his cabinet and then pursuing the post January negotiations with the EU is a tad concerning as I'm still not very sure where BoJo actually stands on Europe.
Labour are going to, as someone said, eat themselves and clearly look as if they're going to need at least another kicking before they realise nobody wants a hard left government and I don't see how the LibDems can get from 11 seats to being a credible opposition.
Someone interviewed at the weekend said the SNP now appear to be the most credible opposition which is alarming!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 16, 2019 10:39:40 GMT
And there was me thinking it was the electorate who delivered us from Corbynism by not buying a word of it... Or are we back to viewing the electorate as not capable of thinking beyond Cummings' messaging? Because we were told that was elitist when it came to Brexit... Besides don't you think we ought to see how Brexit turns out first, before giving any of its authors any gongs? For the electorate to have their say there has to be an election. Strategically, there's no way the Labour Party should have agreed to an election on 12th Dec. Tony Blair even stood up and told them they would be mad to do so. Looking back I'm sure the party strategists are thinking how the hell they walked into that trap despite the huge signs saying "It's a trap". Dominic Cummings set the trap and laid the trail of breadcrumbs.
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Post by michael on Dec 16, 2019 10:41:14 GMT
I would hope that after the moderates loose the Labour leadership election they'll realise their cause is lost and they'll split. They only need a quarter of their lot to break off and they'd become the third party getting their two questions at PMQs and short money. That would be the start of the transformation and I suspect we'd then see the rest of old Labour slowly regress and completely self destruct. It need to happen soon though which is why they're desperate to get Corbyn out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 10:41:42 GMT
Labour are only going to implode further while Corbyn refuses to stand down as leader. Some of their MPs still support him and believe that the press is all to blame for his vilification and some blame him for their lack of success in the election. Until that divisiveness is gotten rid of they ain't going far.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 16, 2019 10:42:59 GMT
Oh agreed. Swinson and Corbyn fell into that one, hook, line and sinker.
Mind you until they caved they were being screamed at as undemocratic from all angles and not just the Tory propaganda machine in its High Tower.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 16, 2019 10:49:44 GMT
Oh agreed. Swinson and Corbyn fell into that one, hook, line and sinker. Mind you until they caved they were being screamed at as undemocratic from all angles and not just the Tory propaganda machine in its High Tower. Is that not what party propaganda machines are for?
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Post by PG on Dec 16, 2019 10:56:19 GMT
Corbyn had demanded a general election more or less every single day since the 2017 election. So not agreeing to one when it was offered (the first few times) made him look even more silly. He dug his own trap and then, helped by Dominic Cummings' trail of breadcrumbs, proceeded to throw himself into it.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 16, 2019 11:03:10 GMT
Oh agreed. Swinson and Corbyn fell into that one, hook, line and sinker. Mind you until they caved they were being screamed at as undemocratic from all angles and not just the Tory propaganda machine in its High Tower. Is that not what party propaganda machines are for? Indeed. That's why the object of my comment was the highlighted part.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 16, 2019 11:21:10 GMT
For the record I think Cummings is a fairly unpleasant human being and I wasn't being serious about him getting a peerage but the two things don't always go hand in hand.
Going forward I'd like to think Boris' majority will mean he's not beholden to the more extreme elements of his party and the DUP, allowing him to build a generally liberal Conservative government more in his own image.
Labour need to re-make themselves as a true social democratic party for the 21st century, not in thrall to the unions or left wing parasites, making them palatable to the electorate again.
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