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Post by Alex on Jun 6, 2017 10:09:30 GMT
Had the misfortune to listen to BoJo on R4 this morning, I suppose it was slightly amusing in the aftermath of Brexit to give him the Foreign Secretary portfolio, but the joke has worn thin. Worryingly, in light of Darth May's general confusion of Flip and Flop with Strong and Stable I'm starting to think she gave him this genuinely believing it was a good idea. If she wins on Thursday I do hope he is no longer in the cabinet. All credit to Michelle Hussein for not jumping over the desk and beating him senseless with her bare hands. Still none the wiser who to vote for. Didn't catch him on R4 but he was on LBC so presumably he's doing the rounds today. He wasn't much better by the sounds of it and refused to answer questions about the "dementia tax".
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Post by Tim on Jun 6, 2017 10:26:58 GMT
Had the misfortune to listen to BoJo on R4 this morning, I suppose it was slightly amusing in the aftermath of Brexit to give him the Foreign Secretary portfolio, but the joke has worn thin. Worryingly, in light of Darth May's general confusion of Flip and Flop with Strong and Stable I'm starting to think she gave him this genuinely believing it was a good idea. If she wins on Thursday I do hope he is no longer in the cabinet. All credit to Michelle Hussein for not jumping over the desk and beating him senseless with her bare hands. Still none the wiser who to vote for. Didn't catch him on R4 but he was on LBC so presumably he's doing the rounds today. He wasn't much better by the sounds of it and refused to answer questions about the "dementia tax".
I had to turn the radio off because I was getting so annoyed at him talking over her and refusing to answer the questions.
Still, it makes a change from me getting annoyed at the presenters for talking over the guests.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 6, 2017 10:27:42 GMT
I'm assuming that part of May's plan is to get in with sufficient majority to be able to jettison Johnson.
And complete the take over by the Dark Side.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 6, 2017 11:01:26 GMT
I'm assuming that part of May's plan is to get in with sufficient majority to be able to jettison Johnson. And complete the take over by the Dark Side. Any bets on Gove making an appearance in the next government? Either that or the truly unpleasant Rhys-Mog thingy being Foreign Secretary. I don't know enough about the relationship between May and Grove, or indeed who would be her natural allies in the Tory party. It'll be interesting to see the cabinet reshuffle if she's re-elected. I'm in two minds about the election, generally in a GE I vote LibDem in Newcastle as the Labour Party here are a useless shower and they provide the most credible opposition. Then I think about the beaming face of Tim Nice But Dim (reminds me of the very nice young vicar that used to go to my gran's church) and I just get disheartened. I'm away on business Wed/Thursday I might just drive straight home and not bother at all.
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Post by Tim on Jun 6, 2017 11:01:39 GMT
She can't have Rees Mog, we don't own any gunboats for him to send anymore I hope Gove gets booted out, he makes me feel uncomfortable.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 6, 2017 11:08:18 GMT
There is a guy in the village who was a lifelong Labour voter, but is refusing to vote this time around. He was going to vote Conservative for the first time ever due to Brexit, but is now refusing as the local Conservative candidate is pro hunting. I did point out to him that regardless of your tendencies to enjoy tearing foxes apart or not, it really was a non-issue in relation to the gravity of what might actually happen and the theme of this particular election. He then went in a sulk and threatened to go home. To be fair, it makes no difference in NW Durham. You could pin a Labour rosette on a pig and make it the next candidate and it would still get elected.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 6, 2017 11:18:22 GMT
There is a guy in the village who was a lifelong Labour voter, but is refusing to vote this time around. He was going to vote Conservative for the first time ever due to Brexit, but is now refusing as the local Conservative candidate is pro hunting. I did point out to him that regardless of your tendencies to enjoy tearing foxes apart or not, it really was a non-issue in relation to the gravity of what might actually happen and the theme of this particular election. He then went in a sulk and threatened to go home. To be fair, it makes no difference in NW Durham. You could pin a Labour rosette on a pig and make it the next candidate and it would still get elected. You've met Pat Glass then?
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 6, 2017 11:39:08 GMT
There is a guy in the village who was a lifelong Labour voter, but is refusing to vote this time around. He was going to vote Conservative for the first time ever due to Brexit, but is now refusing as the local Conservative candidate is pro hunting. I did point out to him that regardless of your tendencies to enjoy tearing foxes apart or not, it really was a non-issue in relation to the gravity of what might actually happen and the theme of this particular election. He then went in a sulk and threatened to go home. To be fair, it makes no difference in NW Durham. You could pin a Labour rosette on a pig and make it the next candidate and it would still get elected. You've met Pat Glass then? She has resigned and we have got a hip young Corbynite called Laura Pidcock. Yes, I spent most of my time growing up around Darlington and Teesside - I used to live smack bang between the two and went school in Teesside. I read a similar blog a while back. I think Labour are safe here - they got 47% of the votes last time and the Conservatives who came in 2nd place only got 23%.
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Post by johnc on Jun 6, 2017 11:59:17 GMT
I registered for a postal vote and it went in last week. No last minute changes for me!
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 6, 2017 20:22:37 GMT
Same for me. I voted last Thursday after taking a while to make up my mind.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 6, 2017 23:56:55 GMT
It ends badly whatever you do. But it's the LibDems for me because I cannot possibly vote for Corbyn or May - either would represent an egregious betrayal of what I believe in. Call it conscientious objection.
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Post by Eff One on Jun 7, 2017 15:29:47 GMT
It ends badly whatever you do. But it's the LibDems for me because I cannot possibly vote for Corbyn or May - either would represent an egregious betrayal of what I believe in. Call it conscientious objection. +1
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Post by johnc on Jun 7, 2017 15:33:31 GMT
Maybe the Lib Dems will do well from the protest vote from all sides!
I can, hand on heart, say that there is no-one and no party which I feel I must support in this election. There are some I will actively avoid and use my vote tactically to prevent getting in to power but it's a sad day when every party could be given the Muppet badge and wear it with pride.
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Post by Tim on Jun 7, 2017 16:18:27 GMT
It could be worse John, we could've been American!!
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 7, 2017 16:27:16 GMT
It helps that I actually like my local LibDem candidate. She's a former competition lawyer and seems pretty switched on. She has sadly precisely zero chance of winning in Chelsea & Fulham where the LibDems were a distant third in 2015 behind the Tories and Labour.
I was quite amused by our Labour candidate being called Alan De'Ath.
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Post by johnc on Jun 7, 2017 16:38:25 GMT
It could be worse John, we could've been American!! I think the Americans will learn from their mistakes and at least put credible candidates through for nomination in the future. Trump won't last forever.
Unfortunately I reckon that the UK could (and might already have) vote itself into oblivion. There is no-one I trust and no-one in whose policies I find more than perhaps 60% agreement and those that I disagree with are serious issues in my mind. There are no Politicians in positions of power that I respect and no shining lights coming up through the ranks. To me, we have parties who are pandering to minority views with no party properly representing the views of the majority.
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Post by Alex on Jun 7, 2017 18:57:57 GMT
On the eve of polling that's where I have also got to That's another from me. I think it's clear the Tories will win and our candidate Jeremy Quinn is going to struggle not to keep his nice safe seat. But for me I don't want to see them gaining such a big majority they feel they can do what they like. From a best of the rest point of view, the Lib Dems seem the obvious choice, I'm just not sure I like our local candidate, but does it matter?
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 8, 2017 8:19:02 GMT
There hasn't been anyone in recent times that has struck me as a credible politician who you can trust and believe in, let alone be an inspirational leader. My vote has gone in but, as in all recent elections, I feel that it is a case of choosing the "least worst" of the bunch. I am utterly fed up of the constant drivel on Facebook, too. What stands out most is just how short some people's memories are.
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Post by michael on Jun 8, 2017 8:48:11 GMT
I've voted. It's raining a lot up North which will likely affect the turnout, quietly confident.
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Post by Alex on Jun 8, 2017 8:54:52 GMT
I went for best of the rest approach. I don't doubt or Tory MP will get the nod again. Any vote he loses to Lib Dem and Labour he'll make up from UKIP.
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Post by michael on Jun 8, 2017 8:59:18 GMT
My incumbent Tory has a 16k majority so I doubt much will change. With that in mind my increasingly irritating lefty neighbours have registered to vote at their second home on the coast as it's in a Labour seat.
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Post by scouse on Jun 8, 2017 9:17:28 GMT
My incumbent Tory has a 16k majority so I doubt much will change. With that in mind my increasingly irritating lefty neighbours have registered to vote at their second home on the coast as it's in a Labour seat. Someone with a second home voting Corbyn's Labour? Turkeys for Christmas?
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Post by michael on Jun 8, 2017 9:22:29 GMT
Their hypocrisy is quite breathtaking. She sent all three of her children to a private school, and he's a management consultant on £1k a day. His only client is 'our' NHS.
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Post by PG on Jun 8, 2017 9:31:32 GMT
Their hypocrisy is quite breathtaking. She sent all three of her children to a private school, and he's a management consultant on £1k a day. His only client is 'our' NHS. Champagne socialists.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 8, 2017 10:02:13 GMT
It's dry and warm in London. The thing that struck me as I walked down to the polling station (which is conveniently located about 100yds away), that I have not clapped eyes on a single campaigner for any party since the election was announced. Ok, so this is a very safe Tory seat without much UKIP support (I noticed we do have a UKIP candidate, unlike many constituencies where UKIP have avoided standing against their ideological brethren currently in the ascendency in the Tory party), but that still seems remarkable.
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Post by Tim on Jun 8, 2017 10:16:19 GMT
We've only had 1 person at the door but an absolute mountain of paper through to make up for it.
There's been a significant increase in the amount of marketing, all of which goes straight into the recycling.
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Post by johnc on Jun 8, 2017 10:35:12 GMT
Their hypocrisy is quite breathtaking. She sent all three of her children to a private school, and he's a management consultant on £1k a day. His only client is 'our' NHS. £1K a day and they wonder why the NHS doesn't have any money!
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Post by michael on Jun 8, 2017 11:01:33 GMT
£1K a day and they wonder why the NHS doesn't have any money! You never know, they probably paid somebody. PAYE £250 a day to do it until they were made redundant as a result of the Lansley fuck-up...but the role still needed doing. Driving efficiencies of course. I know of far too many cases where this has happened. In one case the individual was the director of an organisation I was working with, engineered redundancy and was brought back in for a four figure day rate to do the same job after the thirty days (NHS guidelines). The redundancy pay out was six figures. He's another champagne socialist who is constantly whinging on twitter about austerity and the evil tories.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 8, 2017 11:06:11 GMT
And my Facebook feed is full of true-blues posting attack ads against Corbyn rather than saying anything meaningful about what their party would do.
Lazy knee-jerk partisanship is something I don't tolerate from either side, but I seem to be in the minority as usual.
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Post by michael on Jun 8, 2017 11:25:26 GMT
And my Facebook feed is full of true-blues posting attack ads against Corbyn rather than saying anything meaningful about what their party would do. Lazy knee-jerk partisanship is something I don't tolerate from either side, but I seem to be in the minority as usual. I think one thing we can all agree on is we can be glad when it's over.
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