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Post by PG on Jun 5, 2018 13:15:22 GMT
Images and details released - www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/audi-q8-2018-suv-launchedNo surprises really - even bigger front end treatment; inside is an electronic fest; not as bling as an X6 or GLE; wanky exhausts (obligatory); yet lots of chrome and bling accents and highlights for the Chinese, including Audi's current all-across-the-back lighting; Very Audi-of-the-moment. But it struck me that how cars are perceived is so based on brand and that two pretty much identical design issues but from different people are treated so differently. I thought of this as I had seen an image of the Honda Civic and then the Q8. So, topic for the day - Per the press: This is an evolving piece of design to give that the people want and that says "I am successful" - as Autocar say "notable styling flourishes include the new-style upright grille design, which features six vertical chrome fins"  This has been pretty much derided as bad design. 
Both feature big plastic lower side areas, lots of plastic in the middle and a dominant feature front. Discuss........ |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 5, 2018 13:59:58 GMT
They just keep making those grilles bigger and bigger don't they? I can't help but think al lot of these large swathes of plastic on the front and back of new vehicles are largely driven by cost - cheap to manufacture, cheap to assemble, and cheap to replace in the event of accident damage - keeping the insurance companies sweet.
Low down, head on, that Honda looks OK - it's just when you see the whole that you wonder what the designers were thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 15:25:41 GMT
Says 'get out of the way', I think. Regularly see such things right up my arse in traffic.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 5, 2018 15:32:07 GMT
Surprisingly I don't hate that. The front ends nasty but everything else looks ok and even with hints of Urus about it.
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Post by Blarno on Jun 5, 2018 15:53:23 GMT
Mmmmmmm, a full width LED strip at the back. How tasteful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 17:09:06 GMT
Surprisingly I don't hate that. The front ends nasty but everything else looks ok and even with hints of Urus about it. Ditto. The face is pretty hideous, but the rest is all good. |
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Post by PG on Jun 5, 2018 17:38:08 GMT
Mmmmmmm, a full width LED strip at the back. How tasteful. Yep, classy...  |
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Post by Martin on Jun 5, 2018 18:12:17 GMT
That’s not as bad as expected, but agree with the negative comments about the ever increasing size of grilles.
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Post by Blarno on Jun 6, 2018 13:17:27 GMT
Q8.
Is that the target market or a reference to how much of the black stuff it will burn just to move its hideous, bloated frame along the road?
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Post by Tim on Jun 6, 2018 15:11:21 GMT
I can't help but think al lot of these large swathes of plastic on the front and back of new vehicles are largely driven by cost - cheap to manufacture, cheap to assemble, and cheap to replace in the event of accident damage - keeping the insurance companies sweet.
Except that, especially on something like the Q8, if you do actually crash one the fancy cruise control sensor gubbins forms part of the primary crash structure so the front of the car could be made out of gold and it'd still probably be the cheapest part.
It's funny that the grille is so big when the late 80s/early 90s Passat had no grille above the bumper line, all the air went in underneath or through the relatively small VW badge.
I look forward to being stuck at a set of traffic lights behind one of these Q8s on a dark winters night. I can already feel the headache the bright lights will induce.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 6, 2018 16:04:59 GMT
Other than the grille, not too bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 9:03:13 GMT
There was one in the dealership this morning. Looks a little better in a more subdued colour, but not as big as you'd think so might not have the desired 'fuck off out of my way' appeal so beloved of people who buy this sort of shit.
RS5 and TTRS too busy, design-wise. I've not been a fan of the new R8, but they had a V10 in grey that looked superb and understated.
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 20, 2018 12:18:55 GMT
I look forward to being stuck at a set of traffic lights behind one of these Q8s on a dark winters night. I can already feel the headache the bright lights will induce.
It's about time that a law was brought in requiring high-level and/or "third" brake lights to extinguish after they've been on for a couple of seconds, same way as front and rear fog lights should be made to reset to "off" when the engine is turned off |
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Post by Tim on Sept 20, 2018 12:28:09 GMT
Th elatest CAR mag have a comparison test between the Q8, Velar and Touareg.
No other competitors included which is poor - F Pace, GL Merc and BMW X6 or X5.
The Q8 appears to be an absolute riot of styling lines. Audi's stylists need to discover their 'less is more' polo necks.
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Post by grampa on Sept 21, 2018 16:47:44 GMT
Per the press: This is an evolving piece of design to give that the people want and that says "I am successful" - as Autocar say "notable styling flourishes include the new-style upright grille design, which features six vertical chrome fins" Wow look how much more successful the Scirocco makes me look now!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 17:59:37 GMT
Now, THAT is a car. The Q8? Not so much, more of a tarts boudoir on wheels/stilts.
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Post by PG on Sept 21, 2018 19:15:50 GMT
Love the VW / Audi homage. If only VW had put those upright chrome fins at the front of the Scirocco it would have sold in its millions.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 14:40:30 GMT
To be fair, they have really pushed the boundaries of car design with the new e-Tron...
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Post by Tim on Sept 25, 2018 14:55:09 GMT
You mean the photocopier in the design dept has been busy agin?
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Post by PG on Sept 25, 2018 16:10:21 GMT
To be fair, they have really pushed the boundaries of car design with the new e-Tron... They have really made use of the differences in layout that EV's allow haven't they? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 16:38:14 GMT
I love the way they've kept the huge grille even though it probably isn't required at all.
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 29, 2018 18:03:51 GMT
Having now seen (a dark grey) one on the road, it's less ugly than I first thought.
And, in Milan last weekend visiting my father, he let slip that he is planning to replace his current old-shape SQ5 Plus next year with an SQ8.
His SQ5 is painted a (gorgeous) very dark olive green metallic with the blacked-out grille, and inside it has very dark bitter chocolate leather seats and the obligatory walnut trim. Apparently he spent ages working out that colour combo from the "exclusive" colour charts, so plans to repeat it on the SQ8.
We shall see if it improves the visuals of an SQ8 compared to an orange one. Certainly I think a blacked-out grille combined with a dark paint shade will help.
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Post by johnc on Nov 29, 2018 18:45:42 GMT
Certainly I think a blacked-out grille combined with a dark paint shade will help. Couldn't agree more. With the grey/silver grill it reminds me of this:  |
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Post by Martin on Nov 29, 2018 18:47:54 GMT
Blacked out grilles help a lot of modern cars a lot, the Q8 needs it more than most
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 20:24:22 GMT
They had 3 or 4 of them at Slough Audi when I went there a few weeks back. I didn't think they looked too bad, definitely a huge improvement on the Q7. Also looked at the new A1 while I was in there, which is more my budget. Quite liked it, but the 3 nostrils which don't do anything were naff. Hopefully they will be functional in the go faster versions...
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