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Post by chipbutty on Mar 6, 2018 15:20:13 GMT
Has anyone driven a manual M2 ?
Are they as awesomely brilliant as they look and sound ?.
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 6, 2018 15:41:09 GMT
I did a while ago when I had my name down for one when they came out. It drove well but there were a few BMW details that irritated like the box which didn't like to be rushed, though they do get better with a few miles on them and an overly stiff rear. If I hadn't got the Cayman I would have bought one but compared to the Porsche it was no way near as good as a drivers car.
If I had one I'd change the springs, wheels, brakes and seats and it'd make an awesome road and track car.
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Post by chipbutty on Mar 6, 2018 22:01:03 GMT
Some interesting deals are available (assume they are not selling that well) and 1M coupes values have gone silly
Given the M2 is just as special as a 1M (bespoke bodywork to accommodate period M3 suspension, uniquely modified six pot with unique components rather than just a tune, manual gearbox and universally good press reports), I am sensing a potential man maff depreciation proof opportunity.
It’s also one of the few new cars that I really like the look of.
In 3 years time when the new M2 is a 4wd 4 pot turbo with a DCT, a manual M2 in long beach blue will be a very covetable machine.
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Post by Blarno on Mar 7, 2018 7:06:36 GMT
I've only ever seen 2 M2s and both of them were flappers, so I suspect manual ones are like rocking horse shit. I assume the manual doesn't do the stupid farting on upshifts?
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 7, 2018 10:41:26 GMT
Some interesting deals are available (assume they are not selling that well) and 1M coupes values have gone silly Given the M2 is just as special as a 1M (bespoke bodywork to accommodate period M3 suspension, uniquely modified six pot with unique components rather than just a tune, manual gearbox and universally good press reports), I am sensing a potential man maff depreciation proof opportunity. It’s also one of the few new cars that I really like the look of. In 3 years time when the new M2 is a 4wd 4 pot turbo with a DCT, a manual M2 in long beach blue will be a very covetable machine. The only difference to bear in mind is that they limited numbers on the 1M - originally only 450 for the UK but I recall they did re-open the book for a few more I think - whereas the M2 is not limited so there are rather more of them.
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Post by Tim on Mar 7, 2018 10:50:36 GMT
I've seen a couple of them in Long Beach Blue and its a nice colour, the car looks great only let down by the wheels being black and the drivers being the thick necked variety
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 7, 2018 10:51:59 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 7, 2018 10:52:52 GMT
I've seen a couple of them in Long Beach Blue and its a nice colour, the car looks great only let down by the wheels being black and the drivers being the thick necked variety I don't care for LBB myself - I'd probably go for Mineral Grey. |
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Post by chipbutty on Mar 7, 2018 11:08:49 GMT
That Peter Vardy deal is the one that piqued my interest.
I wouldn't bother putting more down than £1k - £498 a month is cheap enough as it is. I would hope at 4 years it's worth a good deal more than £23k. Even if it isn't and you end up giving it back and walking away, £520 a month all in is a fair price for a new M missile.
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 7, 2018 14:09:20 GMT
18 month M2's are already sub 35k on AT at the moment so not sure what you expect them to be in another 2 years. Probably trade value of 25k'ish
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Post by chipbutty on Mar 7, 2018 14:33:14 GMT
There is one cat D for £32k, one manual for £34,950 - everything else is £37500 and above.
IIRC - The 1M had a dip 2 years in (although I take the point re: limited volumes).
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 7, 2018 16:26:32 GMT
18 month M2's are already sub 35k on AT at the moment so not sure what you expect them to be in another 2 years. Probably trade value of 25k'ish M2 has been LCI'd as well recently, so you'd expect that to impact earlier cars. |
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Post by johnc on Mar 7, 2018 17:26:03 GMT
I have just looked at some of the discount sites there are no M2's available or even listed, apart from Broadspeed who only have an £1,800 discount (may be the LCI car).
I can get nearly £12k off an M4 bringing it down to £61K with extras but the BMW site shows discounts of only £6,500, so there might be movement on an M2 if you can find a dealer who has one in stock. |
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 7, 2018 19:53:21 GMT
so there might be movement on an M2 if you can find a dealer who has one in stock. ...if you want a white automatic one with no options.... |
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Post by michael on Mar 7, 2018 21:47:41 GMT
How does an auto affect the GFV? Presumably it’s the more desirable option?
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 7, 2018 22:39:26 GMT
It costs about £2.5k more new and you see about £1.5k of that back.
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Post by Mark on Mar 19, 2018 17:38:19 GMT
I've heard that there's a CS model to be announced in a few weeks. Prices could soften a bit on the standard car, maybe.
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Post by alf on Apr 10, 2018 13:13:08 GMT
That Peter Vardy deal is the one that piqued my interest. I wouldn't bother putting more down than £1k - £498 a month is cheap enough as it is. I would hope at 4 years it's worth a good deal more than £23k. Even if it isn't and you end up giving it back and walking away, £520 a month all in is a fair price for a new M missile. Eye catching indeed. I'm not usually a fan of finance offers but this, even factoring in a lot of excess mileage, makes a lot of sense... Shame it's a bit small/stiffly sprung for me... |
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Post by PetrolEd on Apr 17, 2018 8:46:19 GMT
Reading this months Evo, it seems the M2 is going to become the car it always should have been.
The M2 Competition will replace the normal M2 and give us the S55 engine out of the M4 raising power to around 410 bhp and a load more torque.
Far more attractive wheel design similar to the old CSL's
M mirrors and seats.
All sounds great for a small uplift in price on the current car. Only problem if you have an M2 is the rather large effect this will have on the pricing of the current model or a great opportunity to bag an old bargain M2 for 25k in 18 months or so.
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Post by johnc on Apr 17, 2018 10:38:03 GMT
Reading this months Evo, it seems the M2 is going to become the car it always should have been. The M2 Competition will replace the normal M2 and give us the S55 engine out of the M4 raising power to around 410 bhp and a load more torque. Far more attractive wheel design similar to the old CSL's M mirrors and seats. All sounds great for a small uplift in price on the current car. Only problem if you have an M2 is the rather large effect this will have on the pricing of the current model or a great opportunity to bag an old bargain M2 for 25k in 18 months or so. I read that and thought it looked a significant improvement. However my main concern would be traction with over 400HP in something as small as an M2. If you read the M4 forum pages where people complain about traction they get told they don't know how to drive but what is the point of having 450hp if your average 2 litre diesel is going to beat you away from the lights unless it is bone dry and sunny. The problem is the massive amount of mid range torque produced by the turbo engines which will overpower any tyre with ease. Once you are up and running the problem becomes less pronounced but when I had my test drive 3rd gear up a motorway slip road had the wheels spinning without full throttle and I was trying to be progressive! With no care for your licence or on a track these cars start to come alive but I am not so sure that the roads are the place to get full enjoyment out of something which has the capability of being seriously good. I think a daily driver of this type of car is going to feel more frustration than elation. |
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Post by PetrolEd on Apr 17, 2018 14:00:48 GMT
It'll be interesting to see if it can take the power increase, as I understand from reviews of the current M2, traction isn't a problem but the damping is with regards to rebound. 400bhp plus will always take a bit of throttle control but there does seem to be a real issue with the M3/4 that isn't present in other models
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Post by Martin on Apr 18, 2018 18:23:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 7:17:25 GMT
I'm surprised It didn't mention not paying for the tyres, too.
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Post by Blarno on Apr 19, 2018 9:12:26 GMT
Sniff on the money as usual.
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 20, 2018 16:40:14 GMT
I’m not sure that putting the M4’s engine in is a progressive step compared to the current lump.
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Post by Blarno on Apr 20, 2018 18:05:05 GMT
It does mean that M4 power levels are easily achievable.
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