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Apr 3, 2017 17:43:11 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 17:43:11 GMT
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Apr 3, 2017 19:23:43 GMT
Post by chipbutty on Apr 3, 2017 19:23:43 GMT
It's a piece of piss if you don't mind having you trousers pulled down by a finance house.
Even if you are in negative equity to the tune of £3k plus, there are many deals out there where the manufacturer deposit contribution will clear your outstanding balance. However, the advertised monthly on your new car goes up as your deposit has gone down (cleared the balance on your trade in) and you are in an even worse position if you don't like the new car and want to shift it.
Selling the car privately will minimise your loss (assuming neg eq), but it will likely be a colossal twat on if you are getting the buyer to clear Audi finance and then pay you any balance.
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Apr 3, 2017 20:22:21 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Apr 3, 2017 20:22:21 GMT
I can point you in the direction of a very nice 14-plate metallic blue TT if you're after another Audi.... younger daughter has decided that it's not the car for her :-(
As to ending a PCP early....... I've found it very easy on 2 occasions now, even been offered more than the remaining amount to pay twice ! Just contact the finance co, or if going for another Audi and the current one is with their PCP, the dealer should sort it all for you and have it paid up as par of the deal meaning just one transaction to keep going with another Audi.
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Apr 4, 2017 8:11:54 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 8:11:54 GMT
A cheaper alternative would be to consider tyres, but that won't give you any more grunt, obviously...
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Apr 4, 2017 9:01:10 GMT
Post by PetrolEd on Apr 4, 2017 9:01:10 GMT
Sounds like you need a Golf R
Both cars are probably under VWFS so should be easy. Just get a settlement figure and see what deal can be done just don't lump and bump your current neg equity, if there is any, into the new car. Its a recipe for financial ruin.
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Apr 4, 2017 9:46:35 GMT
Post by PG on Apr 4, 2017 9:46:35 GMT
Your best bet is to wait until a dealer needs to make their targets and see what they can do. And take an in stock car.
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Apr 4, 2017 11:20:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 11:20:23 GMT
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Apr 4, 2017 11:22:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 11:22:10 GMT
Have you had the tracking checked?
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Apr 4, 2017 11:29:02 GMT
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Apr 4, 2017 11:35:32 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 11:35:32 GMT
Bizarre. I can see why you want out.
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Apr 4, 2017 12:13:26 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Apr 4, 2017 12:13:26 GMT
Your best bet is to wait until a dealer needs to make their targets and see what they can do. And take an in stock car. Indeed
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Apr 4, 2017 15:33:12 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 15:33:12 GMT
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Apr 4, 2017 15:59:55 GMT
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Post by bryan on Apr 4, 2017 15:59:55 GMT
Once you have paid half the value of the car off you can hand back to the finance company with no penalty, we did this with Claire's 207 that was in negative equity.
Try a full wheel alignment and try another identical spec car to see if you have a fault?
Failing that it's befriending your Audi dealer and waiting until they are desperate for a sale!
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Apr 4, 2017 16:00:39 GMT
Post by Tim on Apr 4, 2017 16:00:39 GMT
Have you taken it back to Audi for a proper check or is it just a poor design 'feature' that they don't mention in the car mags?
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Apr 4, 2017 17:28:36 GMT
Post by johnc on Apr 4, 2017 17:28:36 GMT
Once you have paid half the value of the car off you can hand back to the finance company with no penalty, we did this with Claire's 207 that was in negative equity. I have the feeling that only applies to HP and not PCP - that's one of the reasons you need a bigger deposit for HP: it ensures you have more money tied up and are therefore less likely to do a runner after paying more than 50% of the payments due.
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Apr 5, 2017 4:45:46 GMT
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Post by bryan on Apr 5, 2017 4:45:46 GMT
The 207 was on a PCP, she was swapping every 3 years and the pug dealer just ran down her deposit and it ended up £3k negative equity. Fine until we wanted to move from pug to Renault. Voluntary termination applies to both HP and PCP i believe.
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Apr 5, 2017 7:39:47 GMT
Post by johnc on Apr 5, 2017 7:39:47 GMT
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Apr 5, 2017 8:09:27 GMT
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Post by Martin on Apr 5, 2017 8:09:27 GMT
Will terminating impact your credit rating?
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Apr 5, 2017 8:13:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 8:13:34 GMT
Surely the car is faulty. It is the property of the credit company and they are obliged to get it fixed. If they are unable or unwilling to do so then you should be able to exit the contract without penalty. Just a thought.
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Apr 5, 2017 9:15:26 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 5, 2017 9:15:26 GMT
Will terminating impact your credit rating? No. My last Lexus was on a 36 month PCP which was coming to an end. I extended it for another 6 months while I was waiting for my next car and as that approached the end of its run I realised I was in for significant penalties for excess mileage and general wear and tear totaling nearly £1k. Speaking to Lexus Finance they said I could voluntarily terminate the agreement and walk away from these charges without penalty, so that's what I did.
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Apr 5, 2017 10:23:29 GMT
Post by grampa on Apr 5, 2017 10:23:29 GMT
When I had cars on contract hire, I always used the same finance company (linked to a Ford dealer, but they would supply any car) - twice I wanted to vary the length of the agreement - once to change early, once to change late - but using the same company and specifically always talking to the same sales guy, I found they were very flexible and would do what they could to facilitate the car change/date I wanted - the only time I ever paid any rentals up front was the first time I had a car from them - from that point they just adjusted the payment to what was needed for me to change the car - twice I bought the car from them, and both times they did a cracking deal - and also did me a cracking deal on another car that I just bought straight from them - a case when my loyalty to them was repaid by excellent service from them.
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Apr 5, 2017 10:51:09 GMT
Post by humphreythepug on Apr 5, 2017 10:51:09 GMT
You can VT a car which is on a PCP or HP when you have paid back half of the total amount payable, not half the value of the car, don't get the two confused.
And no it won't affect your credit rating, however a note can be made on your file if the finance company so choose, but they rarely do.
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Apr 5, 2017 12:01:09 GMT
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Post by Martin on Apr 5, 2017 12:01:09 GMT
Interesting. I assume the 50% includes the GMFV?
I think I'm around that point now (inc GMFV), I don't have any desire to do it, just useful to know.
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Apr 5, 2017 12:23:00 GMT
Post by humphreythepug on Apr 5, 2017 12:23:00 GMT
Interesting. I assume the 50% includes the GMFV? I think I'm around that point now (inc GMFV), I don't have any desire to do it, just useful to know. Yes it includes the GFV/MFV/balloon payment, whatever people term it.
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Apr 5, 2017 12:29:53 GMT
Post by chipbutty on Apr 5, 2017 12:29:53 GMT
The link John shared is very comprehensive - obviously you would do some extra checking to make sure the details presented are correct, but it seems reasonably clear.
Read some of the comments at the bottom of the article - all questions posted by idiots who haven't read the article properly, yet patiently answered by the author. I would have been far less charitable.
Also interesting to note that what was set as a legal instrument to provide consumer protection is being used by plebs to pull one over on finance companies - e.g, " I am taking the lowest mileage PCP I can get, but I plan to do triple the mileage, throw it back at the 50% point - can you confirm Mercedes Finance can go fuck themselves if they levy mileage charges ?"
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Apr 5, 2017 13:31:30 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Apr 5, 2017 13:31:30 GMT
I don't really get the benefits of VT myself unless you have eg not stuck to your mileage limits.
For example, looking down the 4 year amortisation schedule for my car, I don't hit the point where I have repaid 50% of the Total Amount Payable until the end of the third year. At which point, I'd be fairly surprised if the car had depreciated so much that it made sense to simply hand it back and walk away, rather than selling it privately for more than the remaining balance (which you are usually entitled to do - I asked BMW and they confirmed it was permitted) to pay and then repaying the finance provider their due and trousering any difference.
Because in my experience (BMW/MINI and Fiat), PCP contracts allow you to repay in full at any time you like – there is a small interest penalty but it's not a significant sum.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:42:57 GMT
Post by Roadsterstu on Apr 5, 2017 15:42:57 GMT
Would an ill-advised overtake and resulting write-off be an option? I'm inclined to agree with whoever suggested there's something not right with the car, though. Has everything been checked? Shocks, springs, suspension spec?
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Apr 5, 2017 17:47:07 GMT
Post by bryan on Apr 5, 2017 17:47:07 GMT
I don't really get the benefits of VT myself unless you have eg not stuck to your mileage limits. For example, looking down the 4 year amortisation schedule for my car, I don't hit the point where I have repaid 50% of the Total Amount Payable until the end of the third year. At which point, I'd be fairly surprised if the car had depreciated so much that it made sense to simply hand it back and walk away, rather than selling it privately for more than the remaining balance (which you are usually entitled to do - I asked BMW and they confirmed it was permitted) to pay and then repaying the finance provider their due and trousering any difference. Because in my experience (BMW/MINI and Fiat), PCP contracts allow you to repay in full at any time you like – there is a small interest penalty but it's not a significant sum. I am not sure where the avoidance of mileage limits and damage comes in - when we handed back Claire's Pug207 it came with a very efficient collection service which charged us about £500 for non fair wear n tear (She works in a super market so lots of dints) and excess mileage...it was all fair enough apart from they charged £40 for a substandard smart repair to a panel which we had done to get one of the worst dents out...it looked perfect to me apart from shinier than the rest of the car ! but we didn't argue It worked well for us and I have pieced together what I think happened as it was pre 'us' and her details are annoyingly vague!. Claire put in a car worth about 4k into a PCP scheme with monthly payments of £250pcm about 7/8 years ago and every 2-3 years the dealer would call up with an offer of a new 206/207 for about the same monthly payment.....which she duly took. I guess Humph will have more insight and was a star at the time with advice. <how do I get a beer smiley> I assume in order to do this the dealer was eating into the deposit and inflating the MFGV to get the cost down and had Claire stuck with Peugeot's it would all be fine (but she hated the weird 208 dash/steering combo) and they would have continued to juggle the value/monthly payment When I got involved and we looked at a Captur the Renault sales guy called Pug Finance and the value of the 207 was in negative equity (about 3.5k below the loan amount).......so we waited for about 3 months until we had paid off half and handed it back.... I don't really like PCPs for this very reason ie after £4k deposit and many monthly payments there was nothing to show for it. That said the Captur deal with 12k miles was on a PCP and seemed good value ie £240 deposit £240pcm means it will have cost us about the same as the depreciation if we bought one (plus it included servicing, breakdown etc for the duration) but I still don't like the feeling we don't own anything!
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Apr 5, 2017 19:16:44 GMT
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Apr 5, 2017 19:33:36 GMT
Post by PetrolEd on Apr 5, 2017 19:33:36 GMT
wow, I like that a lot. The 3dr's so rare I didn't even know they still did it in the Golf.
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