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Post by michael on Jan 2, 2018 15:10:41 GMT
My mother has had this car for the best part of the year and I’ve never once been driven in it let alone driven it - she usually bumbles about in a Touran TSI. Anyway, she came over in it and it started snowing so she took the Volvo (which happens to be outstanding in the snow) home leaving me with the Jag. I took it out when the mild flurry of snowflakes went and bloody hell its quick. I believe it’s the 3.0 V6 diesel and, like pretty much anything else, it is entirely rapid compared to the Volvo. It just doesn’t seem stop pulling. On my private five mile driveway that leads to town I gently squeezed the throttle that had me well in excess of the speed limit and then stabbing the left peddle at 70 would (in a theoretical test environment) would throw you into three figures in very little time at all. The car has that very satisfying sense of pushing you hard into the seat whenever you give the throttle a workout. The ride and handling remind me of the BMWs I’ve had with nice weighting to the controls and all the body movements are tightly controlled letting you really press on with confidence. I love it despite the hideous cream leather which looks horrible although the leather dash is very nicely done. For me the boot is way too small, more 3 series than 5 but overall a beast of a car. I’ve not given it back yet.
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Post by Martin on Jan 2, 2018 16:20:58 GMT
The XE-S Estate was a fairly close second when I bought the 535d. Not surprised you’re enjoying the performance, the torque make this type of car quicker than you’d think. Straight line performance felt similar to the 530d despite power/torque being closer to the 535d and it wasn’t quite as keen to rev, but still plenty quick enough.
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Post by PG on Jan 2, 2018 16:51:35 GMT
It is the reality of multi-cylinder bigger capacity turbo-diesel engines that in 95% of normal situations they are as quick as the petrol high end model in the same range.
But, they are a diesel....
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Post by michael on Jan 2, 2018 17:17:47 GMT
This is it. Black suits it very well and I’m a big fan of those wheels.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 2, 2018 21:54:22 GMT
This is it. Black suits it very well and I’m a big fan of those wheels. In the very unlikely situation that I replace the Benz with anything different, this is exactly what I would get.
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Post by michael on Jan 2, 2018 22:52:40 GMT
It will likely be going in the near future as mother changes her car, the Touran is for my father, very often and isn’t getting on well with the Jaguar dealer.
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Post by Blarno on Jan 3, 2018 9:10:22 GMT
I aim for my next car to be pretty much that: XF S 3.0d estate, on those wheels and in black to hide the daft black strip on the D pillar.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 3, 2018 9:37:27 GMT
That looks lovely. Agree on the wheels too.
Assume no winter tyres? We just got back from an exceptionally snowy sojourn in the Italian Alps and I was extremely impressed by the way the Pirelli Sottozeros on my RWD car simply gripped and hauled it up snow-covered mountain roads in the most Narnian of conditions. Provided the snow isn't deep enough to give you ground clearance issues and there's no sheet ice, winter tyres really are all that most of us will ever need.
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Post by michael on Jan 3, 2018 20:04:08 GMT
You assume right and she should know better given ten years in Minnesota. The snow wasn’t even settling but she was adamant she couldn’t drive it home. As expected there was nothing but positive to report about the XC70 which I recovered last week so I could take my dogs out. I don’t think this went down at all well and I was finally visited this afternoon and have surrendered the Jaguar to its owner.
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Post by chipbutty on Jan 15, 2018 18:12:51 GMT
Those wheels are the 20 inch Hydra alloy - standard fit on the XF-S Portfolio, so I assume that is what the above is.
The outgoing X250 diesel S is a lovely car. As you are probably aware, I had 4 XF S portfolio saloons back to back and they were a delight and (imho) class leading in some key areas right the way through their life cycle (Jaguar's E39 moment). They were also very good value for money - hand on heart, if I was buying with my own cash in late 2014/early 2015, that is what I would buy.
The X260 diesel S is even better to drive, but there have been a few mis-steps elsewhere that have coincided with some serious " getting one's interior shit together " actions by the holy trinity combined with a fire sale attitude to some lease pricing.
I haven't driven the new 3.0d S Sport brake yet, it's not as pretty as the car that preceded it, but it will be a delight to drive, of that I have no doubt.
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Post by michael on Jan 15, 2018 22:13:22 GMT
I know it’s an S as it’s got the badge on the back but I’m not spotter enough to know what differentiates the trims. It’s a 63 plate so getting on a bit now.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 16, 2018 0:03:57 GMT
Who on earth thought up "Portfolio" as a trim designation!?
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Post by chipbutty on Jan 16, 2018 7:27:50 GMT
Portfolio spec mainly focused on materials rather than toys (although there were a few more goodies chucked in)
So Portfolio spec cars have soft grain leather with twin needle contrast ivory stitching on the dash top and the tops of the doors, they also have an alcantara headliner.
Lower spec S models had soft grain on the seats, but vinyl on the dash and door tops and normal cloth headliner.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 16, 2018 18:24:33 GMT
Is the implication that you need a healthy portfolio of investments to be able to indulge in such hedonism?
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Post by chipbutty on Jan 16, 2018 18:45:12 GMT
No idea to be honest.
However thinking about the word portfolio: A portfolio is a collection of pieces that are representative of an individual's best work
Or in this instance, a specification designed to represent a model in it's best light. A definitive presentation of the XF (if you will) in the same way that a portfolio of artwork is designed to be the definitive presentation of an Artist's output.
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Post by michael on Jan 16, 2018 18:50:23 GMT
The leather dash is nicely done. Shame about the colour of the stuff on the seats. I seem to remember the Portfolio nameplate getting an outing on the last of the round headlamp XJ models. It had a very nicely done vent which I think I heard cost a grand to replace if required.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 17, 2018 13:20:17 GMT
No idea to be honest. However thinking about the word portfolio: A portfolio is a collection of pieces that are representative of an individual's best work Or in this instance, a specification designed to represent a model in it's best light. A definitive presentation of the XF (if you will) in the same way that a portfolio of artwork is designed to be the definitive presentation of an Artist's output. Magnificently on-message!
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Post by Alex on Jan 17, 2018 21:26:24 GMT
Surely using the Portfolio trim is no different to uses Executive or Diplomat (as affixed to Vauxhall Carltons)? Presumably a mass market vehicle couldn’t afford to be reserved for actual diplomats. Then there’s Skodas use of Elegance which doesn’t mean that trim is a more elegant car.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 17, 2018 21:40:52 GMT
If they did a Jaguar XF Ghia I’d buy one.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 17, 2018 22:29:26 GMT
The Rover 75 Connoisseur was surely the most cringeworthy model designation ever.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 18, 2018 10:30:20 GMT
Surely using the Portfolio trim is no different to uses Executive or Diplomat (as affixed to Vauxhall Carltons)? Presumably a mass market vehicle couldn’t afford to be reserved for actual diplomats. Then there’s Skodas use of Elegance which doesn’t mean that trim is a more elegant car. ..."I drive a Skoda Superb Elegance"...
It's pretty Partridge.
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Post by michael on Jan 18, 2018 10:38:25 GMT
..."I drive a Skoda Superb Elegance"...
It's pretty Partridge.
My father in law had one, I called in the Sue Ellen - one for the Dallas fans there. It got replaced with a Yeti Laurin & Klement, not sure which is the worse name.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 12:00:51 GMT
Wasn't there a Roland Garros Peugeot once?
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 18, 2018 12:45:18 GMT
Yup, it was green 205CTI. And they did a Goodwood version of the 309GTI.
Sticking with sports, Volvo did a 940 Wentworth, presumably on the back of sponsoring the PGA.
And Rover...a serial offender...did ritzy versions of the 100 called Ascot, Kensington and Knightsbridge.
I've never been very sure about "Autobiography" either and Mercedes' "Designo" is a bit nasty too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 14:11:16 GMT
Don't forget the Vauxhall Vectra Elite. There's a misnomer if ever I heard one.
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Post by michael on Jan 18, 2018 14:43:05 GMT
There was a Roland Garros 306 convertible, as well. Mini Mayfair is another.
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Post by Alex on Jan 18, 2018 15:11:49 GMT
There was a Roland Garros 306 convertible, as well. Mini Mayfair is another. And a 106 too with full leather trim.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 18, 2018 16:37:07 GMT
Renault did a high-spec version of the last Clio called Baccarat named after some fancy French glass.
My best man's in-laws keep one at their pad in Provence - it's a tres tasteful shade of metallic beige with beige leather seats.
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Post by Andy C on Jan 18, 2018 18:11:35 GMT
206 Roland Garros too
My dad had one for about 9 months
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Post by LandieMark on Jan 18, 2018 18:18:32 GMT
There was a Roland Garros 306 convertible, as well. Mini Mayfair is another. The Mini Mayfair always made me think of the magazine rather than the area of London. 😉😛
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