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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 16:00:56 GMT
Dear evo:
I was interested by the critical nature of Meaden’s piece on Lamborghini and the Urus in evo 244. But I sense a discrepancy between the critical tone it takes ‘a slave to targets and made to conform’ and how Porsche is viewed. I know that the Urus isn’t an evo car, but then neither is the Cayenne. Yet the latter is derided in one breath, but widely acknowledged as giving Porsche the clout to develop the sort of driver-focussed cars that evo loves. This is viewed as a pragmatic trade-off, whereas Lamborghini doing something similar is heresy. I suspect that there is a small degree of national stereotyping going in in accepting these views, and the Teutonic takeover at Lamborghini is viewed as somehow repressive and hostile. I doubt that’s how the people at Lamborghini feel!
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Post by Alex on Dec 28, 2017 15:41:27 GMT
I’m sure it makes sense to use the Audi V8 but it’s slightly disappointing from a dreamers perspective that it doesn’t have a proper Lambo engine in it.
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 29, 2017 9:39:38 GMT
You can't compare Porsche and Lambo. Porsche is a win at all costs manufacturer that took pride in its balance sheet as much as its new GT3. Lamborghini was supposed to be non conformist a car owned by the over tanned boy done goods who now have reside in the Riviera living on a tonic of escorts and caviar. I get what Meadens saying but the fact is their SUV should have been some sort of LM002 the size of a house and power to match. The Urus is just too vanilla, its disappointing. If Lambo have to conform than who's left to be the nutters.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 11:21:31 GMT
Erm, aren't you in fact comparing them in the above post?
And whilst I dislike the idea, I think it's too early to be dissing the car completely based upon a few pictures.
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 29, 2017 16:48:31 GMT
This is a motoring forum, if we don't diss a car upon a few pictures what the fuck are we here for?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 9:09:50 GMT
You've got me there - not thinking straight at all!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 31, 2017 9:14:39 GMT
Wow. That's just terrible. It looks like a 5 year old kid designed it. All that stupid vents and slashes. I disagree. Whilst I don't really like the car or the very concept of a Lamborghini SUV, I do rather admire the completely bonkers design that has been produced and the details that are in there. The designers probably had a field day working on that. As an object I find it rather vulgar but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate the work that has gone into it. It certainly makes a statement, if a rather over the top statement at that. |
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Post by Blarno on Dec 31, 2017 16:48:46 GMT
Lamborghini have been conforming since Audi took over, simple as that.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 1, 2018 17:01:47 GMT
Lamborghini have been conforming since Audi took over, simple as that. Yes and thank God for that - they were shite before zee Germans took over. Always looked great on the posters on your wall but crap in real life. They've become a real car company now, not a schoolboy's wet dream. |
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Post by PetrolEd on Jan 2, 2018 11:27:13 GMT
I don't know, in the Ferruccio days they were pretty marvellous. Miura, 350 GT, Islero, ok that's about it but how amazing was the Countach before they stuck all the plastic crap over it. A basic LP400 is high up in the fantasy garage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 15:54:38 GMT
Lamborghini have been conforming since Audi took over, simple as that. Yes and thank God for that - they were shite before zee Germans took over. Always looked great on the posters on your wall but crap in real life. They've become a real car company now, not a schoolboy's wet dream. I must admit that I don't understand this view either. I can see why people might conclude that the basic Huracan is a bit safe in an Audi-esque way in that it lacks front-end so will not murder the rich orthodontist or cosmetic surgeon with more cash than talent, but Audi took over ages ago.
Lamborghini already had 4wd in its DNA, has been allowed to maintain large, charismatic n/a engines (indeed had them syphoned over to the R8) and even been allowed the sort of tech idiosyncrasy that Audi wouldn't have had to throw away because it would never have wasted money on it, such as the Aventador's ISR gearbox. Lamborghinis still look like nothing else (and still look like Lamborghinis should, to my eyes), still have scissor doors for the nuttiest model etc etc.
I think Audi has been more restrained than would have been expected from the get-go, and having cars that have functioning switchgear and electronics as well as something approaching first world quality control is to be celebrated, I think. I'd love a Performante.
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Post by alf on Jan 4, 2018 9:52:55 GMT
I may be in the minority here, but - for what it is - I like it! Especially from the rear and rear 3/4, it looks like a Lambo. I like the flight-desk styled interior too.
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Post by michael on Jan 7, 2018 22:07:44 GMT
I think Audi has been more restrained than would have been expected from the get-go
That’s incorrect. Lamborghini had largely completed the development work on the Canto which was their Diablo replacement. Audi didn’t like the way it looked and canned the styling ordering a redesign to tone it down. Whether you like the Canto or not it’s clear to me looking at it that it is far more true to what a wet dream supercar in the Lamborghini mould would be.  |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 5, 2021 7:27:01 GMT
Thread resurrection; one of my neighbours was on Dragon's Den with his range of high protein, low sugar bars and on the back of the success has got a Urus. I can't remember seeing one before but his is completely black, the only colour on it is the yellow of the brake callipers. It looks bloody sinister as it pootles about, like some sort of Batmobile.
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Post by Tim on Jul 5, 2021 8:45:56 GMT
I think I've only seen one out in the wild and it was a gloss grey. I hate to say it but I quite like them  |
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Post by Big Blue on Jul 5, 2021 8:48:36 GMT
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Post by PetrolEd on Jul 5, 2021 10:03:43 GMT
There are few things I'd feel uncomfortable to drive but a URUS and G63 are probably right up there.
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Post by PG on Jul 5, 2021 10:20:39 GMT
I've only ever seen one up close. It was a lovely shade of blue, but the massive black 20-something inch wheels rather spoiled it for me. Can you even get one with silver wheels?
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Post by Martin on Jul 5, 2021 10:23:48 GMT
I've only ever seen one up close. It was a lovely shade of blue, but the massive black 20-something inch wheels rather spoiled it for me. Can you even get one with silver wheels? It's almost impossible to find a used one, but you can order silver wheels. There is only 1 on Autotrader.  |
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Post by Martin on Jul 5, 2021 10:30:20 GMT
Those are 22" wheels, you can get the comfort look (still 21") as well plus they are available with clear glass.  |
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Post by PetrolEd on Jul 5, 2021 10:57:09 GMT
I quite liek the front but it just looks very sorry for itself at the rear, like a Bentayga that an Elephants parked its backside on. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 5, 2021 11:07:39 GMT
In this part of London they are not that rare - there is one that lives on the road a couple of streets away, and there was another one in the car park of my gym last night.
Personally I think they are hideous. I'd be quite partial to the idea of a Huracan or Gallardo over an equivalent Ferrari. But the Urus is not my cup of tea.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2021 13:13:06 GMT
IMOHO, the whole thing looks like it should be called the Urinous
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 5, 2021 13:33:08 GMT
Loathsome.
As long as the Range Rover remains in production I see absolutely no need to look elsewhere for un upmarket SUV.
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Post by PG on Jul 5, 2021 19:26:23 GMT
As long as the Range Rover remains in production I see absolutely no need to look elsewhere for an upmarket SUV. This. Definitely. |
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Post by michael on Jul 5, 2021 19:36:58 GMT
I see a couple regularly. One is yellow the other black. The Audi version is a lot more pleasant which is saying something.
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