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Post by chipbutty on Oct 30, 2017 18:00:20 GMT
I am falling to bits and I can't tell if it's all part of the normal ageing process or if I am just the human equivalent of a series 2 XJ6 build on Friday afternoon.
My list of quality issues is as follows:
Shoulder impingement - I had an op on the left hand side 5 years ago and can't do proper bench press anymore, the right hand side grumbles when the weight goes up to my old medium training weight. Shoulder press is worse.
Medial epicondylitis (golfer's elbow) on my right arm that I've had on and off for 5 years. Despite physio, daily stretching, compression bands and adjusting my training to avoid the key triggers, it still hurts like fuck and doesn't want to get any better.
The left arm is ok - but I can feel it going the way the right arm is. The problem with golfy elbow is that turning a door handle and other such activities are precisely the movements that set it off.
Hand pain - specifically the left hand, the underside of the knuckles on the palm (where the tendons connect) really do knack. This may be boxing related, but I've been hammering the crap out of heavy bags for nearly 20 years - so I don't know what is triggering this now specifically.
Random hip and calf pain from walking..I walk a lot (5 miles a day + walking around at work) and I'm usually sore somewhere. I used to row (in a sweep oar coxed quad - if you are interested), but it exacerbated the shoulder pain, so I don't do row any more. My main exercise is walking.
I don't train to destruction, but continual injuries that don't want to heal is most dispiriting. If this is what getting old is like then it's toss and I don't like it.
I am 39 and I don't drink or smoke.
But I do like cake.
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Post by LandieMark on Oct 30, 2017 18:47:22 GMT
General aches and pains are par for the course. I walk the dogs nearly every day and due to the hilly terrain, I have tendonitis in my right knee and left ankle, but it’s manageable. Thankfully, cycling doesn’t bother it. I broke my back many years ago and an op seemed to sort it. It aches occasionally, but nothing too bad. I was worried I had ruptured a disc a couple of weeks ago as I felt a pop when bending over and the pain was immense. A few days of ibuprofen seemed to sort it so I guess it was muscular.
Your situation sounds deeply unpleasant - especially at 39. The hand thing may be arthritis.
I used to smoke and I do love a drink. I’ve started watching what I eat and generally feel a lot better for it. Beer is my weakness.
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Post by Blarno on Oct 30, 2017 18:59:49 GMT
I'm not quite up there with Chip yet, but I've noticed the latter half of my 30s not being so much fun. I've had medial meniscus arthroscopies on both knees and my back randomly gives me twinges that stop me in my tracks. I also injured my right wrist at the start of August, reaching into the body of a car at work to remove an ECU and it's still not better. To the point where I'm finaally involving the doctor.
I've not been near a gym in 15 years but cycle regularly, don't smoke and am as good as teetotal.
Most of my pains have to be related to cars. I've spent a lot of the last 20 odd years on my knees or on my back under cars.
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Post by humphreythepug on Oct 31, 2017 8:26:19 GMT
42, tennis elbow in my right arm, drink too much but diet is good, don't smoke, could do with losing a couple of stone (alcohol related I think), excercise regularly (however I'm lying in bed as I type this, seriously considering not going to bootcamp in an hour, however the dogs will be getting a 5 mile walk later) don't think I'm doing too badly.
Some of my younger colleagues have health issues; my manager (35 years old) is a type 2 diabetic and also both his knees are shot from football.
25 year old new boy has just had 40 cm of his intestine removed after it ruptured, the previous guy was early 20's, a couple of years ago he fell 10m off a roof when drunk, broke most of his left side, he can't stand still now as it is uncomfortable for him, he knows full well he'll have awful arthritis by the time he's in his 30's.
My 38 yo sister is grossly overweight, suffers from sleep apnoea (the thing that ultimately killed my dad), you would have thought that she would keep better care of herself, since his death.
So I count myself lucky, that all I have to worry about is a bit of tennis elbow, I think I've inherited my mums healthy side and not my dad's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 9:06:18 GMT
That does sound like quite a lot for 39 - have you ever tried having a break for a set period from the forms of exercise that involve the arms/hands/shoulders? Might be worth a try. Any family history in those areas?
I'm rather the reverse to many of you in that I avoided exercise like the plague for a great many years, but started later in life. I'm 51, and have been walking seriously for around a decade and used an exercise bike heavily (replaced with swimming just over two years ago). I could still do with losing another stone or so, but eat pretty healthily, haven't smoked in twenty+ years - do drink too much though and feel no desire whatever to address that particular failing.
Swimming is worth considering. Whether it is actually the best all round exercise (as the cliché would have it) I don't know, but it does use your whole body, doesn't stress the joints unduly (well, the knees possibly, depending upon how hard you push on turning), and you can take it as easy or push as hard as you like. It also seems to consume calories at a fair rate - if you are trying, at least.
Upshot is that I have fewer health issues than I did a decade ago - I hope you are able to find a way of easing the pains etc.
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Post by franki68 on Oct 31, 2017 9:36:28 GMT
Sounds similar to me chip.
Broke my ribs 6 years ago which led to a frozen shoulder ,shoulder still is not right,and I’ve got knots in my back that masseurs exlaim ‘oh my god that’s so big’ , my whole upper body left side clicks constantly Stopped squatting years ago due to tendinitis in the knees . A few weeks ago I decided to do some tricep dips and subsequently have tennis elbow in both arms . Issues with left hip and groin area but these have eased since I sold the gt4.
Just turned 49 ,in the gym 5 days a week and not going too heavy anymore but I feel worn out mechanically.
I used to swim 2-3 times a week as well,but due to my left side can’t do that anymore.
I’ve seen chiros,physios,masseurs,acupuncturists,shoulder surgeons , And none of them has actually helped at all.
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Post by michael on Oct 31, 2017 9:59:16 GMT
The hands sounds like arthritis. I'd probably want to get that checked out and knock the boxing on the head should you still be doing it. There are lots of things that can help ease mild arthritis symptoms but obviously any thing like that is about condition management to make the best of it. The hips/ calf issue could be any number of things but sounds a bit like mine which turned out to be a leg length discrepancy - one leg slightly shorter than the other. Fixed with an insole and never looked back. I'm 38 and the biggest issues I get are migraines and fatigue caused by a condition that can largely be managed. I don't drink or smoke and usually get 5 miles walking in a day with the dogs. I do need to get back into the gym properly, though.
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Post by PG on Oct 31, 2017 10:18:21 GMT
I have to keep telling myself that once you get past a certain age, the good thing about it hurting everywhere when you wake up is that you know you are still alive.
My main issues are with my left hip, knees and lower back. Too much lifting and my lower back seizes up. I have a chipped piece of bone in my left hip that gives some stiffness and lack of some mobility at times. I had to give up jogging as that started increasing my hip pain a lot. And driving heavy clutched manuals does not help my hip or my left knee. Our Shogun hurts my knee after about 30 minutes town use.
I'm not overweight but I need to get fitter and more supple. I think if we can keep supple and active, it will help a great deal in older life. At some point, older people seem to decide that activity is bad for them - my parents did and stopped playing golf and never got another dog when the last one died - and to my eye they went downhill quickly after that. So even if it hurts, I think we all have to keep active.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 10:21:35 GMT
Yep - it's use it or lose it, and I've seen similar things. If you think you are 'too old' for something, you will become so.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 31, 2017 10:49:56 GMT
I'm glad it's not just me. I've got an appt to see the consultant at the Freeman Hospital this afternoon with a view to a total hip replacement at 52. What started as twinges in my left hip a few years ago, leading me to believe I had some sort of groin strain, was diagnosed by my physio at the gym as arthritis. Subsequent X Rays confirmed I have no cartilage left and it's bone on bone. Rather painful. It'll be interesting to see what they propose. I'm not overweight, relatively fit, and have never smoked so I'm hopeful that I'll recover quickly from any surgery.
I look on the positive side as I'm already older than my dad when he died suddenly on business in London 25 years ago so I kind of regard anything from now on as a bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 10:53:05 GMT
If they replace it I wonder if it'll be under local, like the old boy's was a few weeks' ago? Completely pain-free, but it's supposed to feel deeply weird - your leg flopping about at all sorts of unlikely angles whilst they operate!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 31, 2017 10:57:13 GMT
If they replace it I wonder if it'll be under local, like the old boy's was a few weeks' ago? Completely pain-free, but it's supposed to feel deeply weird - your leg flopping about at all sorts of unlikely angles whilst they operate!Oh cheers for that! I spoke to someone who had had it done under a local and they let him bring his MP3 player in so he could listen to music while they operated. I asked what he'd listened to; "Oh just a bit op Hip 'op" he said..
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Post by Tim on Oct 31, 2017 10:58:50 GMT
It sounds like a long list of ailments for being 39!
I'm rapidly approaching 48 and have, in the last 3 weeks, finally joined a gym/spa. I need to lose a few stone but aches and pains are largely identifiable from incidents over the years - I hurt my lower back putting a shed up and it occasionally aches, I have an intermittent ache in my left wrist from a drinking injury when I was 21 and my noisy knees are due to playing 5 a side, as soon as I gave that up I felt a lot better. I also have some pain in my right heel due to going out for walks at lunchtime in inappropriate office shoes but it's not at the stage where I can be bothered going to the doctor yet!
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 31, 2017 11:44:02 GMT
I'm 49 and 6 months.
Current pain: some shoulder pain I think caused by mattress / pillow combination but I think was a consequence of an over extension on a shoulder press; calf muscle strain last Tuesday caused by stretching for a backhand on the squash court - first time I've ever had that particular injury; my left foot occasionally aches as a result of the injury sustained when the lorry drove over it in 2015.
My stomach is too large but it is the only place I store any fat: none on arms or legs so I am a typical English spider according to W2.0.
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Post by ChrisM on Oct 31, 2017 13:44:10 GMT
58 in 5 weeks' time.... I suppose biggest issue has been eyesight, a hereditary thing (have needed specs or contacts since early teens). Never smooked, drunk alcohol or done drugs. Slightly overweight but, hey, I like my food. Suffered from depression for far too long due largely to lack of a special someone in my life I could love ; still living in hope..... Co-ordination started to go at 40, became a little clumsy whereas previously I'd never really knocked anything over or dropped stuff when handling it. Also started to suffer from skin rash on my face at 40, but it appears this is food-related (took me years to find out, and many visits to the doctors failed to come up with this as a possible reason). I don't get much exercise, lacking in stamina so I try to get out and walk on Saturdays, also like to take holidays in cities where I can walk a lot and get plenty of natural outdoor exercise.
Reading about some of the health issues above, it looks like I should consider myself as very fortunate... my dad passed away last year at 87 but was concerned as for several previous generations, the males died comparatively young (60's) due to heart probelms and dad was concerned that this may have been hereditary. On mum's side, most have lived into their 90's (and one of her close relatives lived until 103) so I am hoping that I can reach 100 or more......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 14:16:14 GMT
59 shortly, too shortly but that's life. Arthritic issues back hip and knee's due to army and health service. Far too much ignorance of safe lifting and handling methods. Having worked for a lot of years in operating theatres and having a related specialty, what are called local anaesthetics for hip etc procedures are in fact more properly described as regional nerve blocks in that they are not 'local'. They are epidural or spinal anaestheseia very similar to the procedures used in some birth situations and are properly associated with some form of sedation. More often used in the very elderly where cardiac or respiratory function are compromised. Some of the best methods for treating the symptoms I have read above would be hydro therapy where the resistance is increased by repetition and the direct impact is much reduced. My right knee is most affected as the articulating surface has actually collapsed to half normal height. Total knee in the near future. A hyper sensitivity to adrenaline is a nuisance when the treatment for my recent cat bite issue would normally be, adrenaline based. Lots of iv antibiotics means I have to rebuild my immune system and am at the chewie cough stage of another virus atm. Num NOT.
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Post by humphreythepug on Oct 31, 2017 15:17:01 GMT
My stomach is too large but it is the only place I store any fat: none on arms or legs so I am a typical English spider according to W2.0. Same here, it's all around the belly, I've got toned legs (thanks to bootcamp and lots of walking) and decent arms, I'm quite broad up top, I used to work out alot with weights (mum and Tina called me triangle man) and then just stopped, so I have that size still but with a belly.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 31, 2017 16:36:46 GMT
Well the verdict's in, the hip is completely fucked and I'm booked in for a THR on the good old NHS. The consultant didn't even begin to suggest delaying any longer, just looked at the new X rays and winced, talked me through the various type of hip prosthesis they use and got me to sign a couple of forms. Should get a letter for pre-assessment and then the waiting list is about 12 weeks but may be sooner if I'm flexible.
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Post by Blarno on Oct 31, 2017 16:53:05 GMT
Well the verdict's in, the hip is completely fucked and I'm booked in for a THR on the good old NHS. The consultant didn't even begin to suggest delaying any longer, just looked at the new X rays and winced, talked me through the various type of hip prosthesis they use and got me to sign a couple of forms. Should get a letter for pre-assessment and then the waiting list is about 12 weeks but may be sooner if I'm flexible. I'd have thought not if you need a new hip....
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 31, 2017 16:54:14 GMT
I will be after...
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Post by humphreythepug on Oct 31, 2017 17:10:58 GMT
I'm amazed it can be done under a local, I don't think I'd be up for that, I'd rather be completely out!
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Post by alf on Oct 31, 2017 17:27:22 GMT
Aches and pains and injuries are certainly a part of ageing, as well as just feeling stiffer in my experience. However, I'm a big believer in reading into things and/or seeing a good physio, sometimes it is a training imbalance and actually more exercise - but the right sort - can help. Three examples - my brother (late 30's) cycles more than me and runs as well, he is quite quick on a bike with lots of local Strava "KOM's" on mountain bike segments. But nothing remotely approaching over-training or more than a normal person should do. He had awful hip pain for years and was convinced he had arthritis, but a visit to the physio and a lot of exercises on the under-worked parts of his hip joints and core have seen him faster and fitter than ever, pain free, approaching 40. A close friend of my age (43) who was always somewhat overweight but one of my MTB group going back to school days started to get so much back pain be could barely exercise. He did 2 things - went on a very healthy diet to lose weight, and read this book and followed it religiously, doing weird exercises with weird things that look like sex toys at times: www.amazon.co.uk/Becoming-Supple-Leopard-Kelly-Starrett/dp/1628600837/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1509470480&sr=8-1&keywords=supple+leopard+bookBut he is way fitter and stronger than he has ever been, and can work out any issues. Lastly my knees were hurting a lot partly from cycling and partly from jumping off head-high rocks a lot in Cornwall a few years back playing with Lu (the kind of thing that, like big air on an MTB, is not a great idea in middle age). I Googled it and started doing specific knee-strength type exercises, and also Pilates for that and the lower back pain I get when cycling, and over a few months the knees got much better. They and my back still twinge but its not enough to stop me doing anything. I think working on core strength, Pilates / Yoga type moves, overall fitness and working specifically at problem areas all become vital as you age.
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Post by Ben on Oct 31, 2017 17:30:14 GMT
You guys are scaring me here...
I've been told that I have mild high blood pressure, which apparently is a bit unusual for a 30 year old. That said I am not really the most active person around, but where I can I've been trying to go to the gym and exercise lately, or simply take a walk.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 31, 2017 19:21:07 GMT
Well, good luck with that Bob.
So far, touch wood, I am generally ok. I had a 360 health assessment when I turned 40 and, aside the modern curse of slightly high cholesterol, everything else was apparently fine.
I don't eat excessively and although I have a horribly sweet tooth, my wife does her level best to ensure we eat healthily with plenty of fruit and veg, lots of fish, and not too much meat. I have one small expresso per day, I don't smoke, I don't take drugs or supplements, and I don't drink unless I am specifically out for drinks or dinner, or we have friends around, and even then very rarely to excess. My eyesight is still keen as ever.
Setting aside my hair which irritatingly is in a race with itself to turn entirely grey before it all actually falls out, my main issue is a tendency to nurture a gut (as Jeff said, it only ever goes on the tummy and love handles, never the limbs), caused by insufficient exercise and bad sleep habits (I am rarely ever asleep before 1am so very rarely get my 7-8hrs, which they say contributes to weight gain).
If I cycle to the office a lot and go to the gym, my gut shrinks. If I don't cycle or gym much, it balloons again. Unsurprisingly. Currently, for one reason or another, I haven't cycled or been to the gym much for several months and it is instantly ballooning again unfortunately (3 kilos above what I consider my fighting weight). So that needs attention.
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Post by PG on Oct 31, 2017 21:29:40 GMT
......and bad sleep habits (I am rarely ever asleep before 1am so very rarely get my 7-8hrs, which they say contributes to weight gain). . In my 30's I was rarely in bed before midnight. But as I've got older, I value early nights more and more. Any thing after 10pm and I'm grumpy (the alarm goes off at 6am everyday).
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Post by LandieMark on Oct 31, 2017 21:45:28 GMT
You guys are scaring me here... I've been told that I have mild high blood pressure, which apparently is a bit unusual for a 30 year old. That said I am not really the most active person around, but where I can I've been trying to go to the gym and exercise lately, or simply take a walk. :/ I assume your doctor is keeping an eye on the blood pressure. Undiagnosed high blood pressure was the primary cause of my MI in 2011.
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Post by Alex on Oct 31, 2017 21:47:00 GMT
I've got a bit of a dodgy shoulder which doesn't seem to sort itself whether I train or not. I'm certainly carrying more timber than I'd like but I do think I'm slowly turning it round by going to the gym. I'm pretty much up to body weight on my squats and got my deadlift past the 100kg mark last week so I'm slowly getting there. Like Racing though, I've got a sweet tooth and am rubbish at getting to sleep. I normally go off at midnight even if I'm up at 6. I'm trying to go to bed earlier and avoid pudding.
I'm unfortunately facing a diabetes pincer movement with my maternal grandmother and my father and uncle both having it, so it's coming at me from both sides of the family. I've also got high blood pressure and cholesterol in the family. My brother had a massive scare earlier in the year. What seemed like a bad fever and disorientation turned out to be type 1 diabetes. He somehow drove himself to hospital and rushed straight to intensive care, apparently less than an hour away from multiple organ failure. Had he stayed in bed he wouldn't of woken up. Annoying thing is he lost a lot of weight but it was the diabetes causing it. Now that's under control he's ballooned up and is now bigger than ever!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 8:58:24 GMT
Regarding weight, the best thing I ever did (barring start to exercise itself) is count calories. Some people can't face it, but knowing what is on the 'in' and 'out' sides of the ledger helps me greatly. It's a great feeling knowing that the calories in the curry that you are about to devour have already been 'paid for', as it were.
Good luck Bob - dad was in better shape within three weeks, and he's (obviously) a darn sight older than we are.
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Post by LandieMark on Nov 1, 2017 11:48:52 GMT
Regarding weight, the best thing I ever did (barring start to exercise itself) is count calories. Some people can't face it, but knowing what is on the 'in' and 'out' sides of the ledger helps me greatly. It's a great feeling knowing that the calories in the curry that you are about to devour have already been 'paid for', as it were.
Good luck Bob - dad was in better shape within three weeks, and he's (obviously) a darn sight older than we are. Agreed. I use MyFitnessPal in conjunction with my Garmin watch. Portion control was my major weakness rather than actual balance of diet, but I have cut out a lot of dairy and feel better for it. Once you realise how many calories is in something, you have second thought about devouring all of it! I’ve lost about 7kg since the spring but have gone down a trouser size which I am more happy with than the actual weight loss, which to me, is just a number.
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