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Post by Big Blue on Oct 18, 2017 9:26:18 GMT
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Post by Martin on Oct 18, 2017 11:51:14 GMT
That is lovely. Top of my want list, but I can’t justify the cost unfortunately.
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 18, 2017 12:30:07 GMT
That is lovely. Top of my want list, but I can’t justify the cost unfortunately. Agreed. £30k down and £1500/month is a bit steep. I'd reckon on a couple of years wait for depreciation and a try of the Hybrid, which would make most sense. |
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Post by Tim on Oct 18, 2017 12:42:57 GMT
It's a lot nicer looking than the Panamera hatch but I can see from the dash display that driving in a city would be annoying if you were stuck with all those grid lines in front of you, it looks a mess.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 18, 2017 13:38:49 GMT
Many thanks for the invite Jeff. It is indeed a lovely machine - much nicer in the metal than I expected, and much bigger too.
Indecently vast price tag though.
Sapphire Blue is a nice colour but I'm just not sure about it on such a big car. But we did agree that the wheels on that particular example were lovely.
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Post by michael on Oct 18, 2017 13:46:48 GMT
Is it much better looking than the hatch? Going on pictures alone I'm not so sure.
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 18, 2017 14:39:58 GMT
Yes the rear end in silhouette and rear 3/4 view is far more pleasant.
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Post by Blarno on Oct 18, 2017 15:16:29 GMT
That is lovely. Top of my want list, but I can’t justify the cost unfortunately. I read that as 'wank list' I need help. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 18, 2017 15:28:05 GMT
Part of me likes that and part of me just groans at Porsche shoehorning their standard front end onto yet another product. Porsche designers are like Status Quo, eventually they will run out of things to do with those same three chords.
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 18, 2017 16:13:38 GMT
Just been on the configurator with a far more sensible base car of the E-Hybrid. Still specced it over £100k and £16k deposit and 4 years at my low mileage came to around £1400/month.
Still mental!
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That is lovely. Top of my want list, but I can’t justify the cost unfortunately. I read that as 'wank list' I need help. Or you were right the first time?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 16:19:55 GMT
Was there a dress code? Do you have to wear a suit jacket that doesn't match the trousers to a Porsche dealership? That means I'm banned before I even get through the door!
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 18, 2017 17:38:18 GMT
Was there a dress code? Do you have to wear a suit jacket that doesn't match the trousers to a Porsche dealership? That means I'm banned before I even get through the door! Ha ha. I had a 3-piece suit but left the top 2/3 in the car and sported my driving shoes whilst my Jones' shoes resided in same car. Racing looked immaculate as only a top lawyer can as far as I recall |
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Post by franki68 on Oct 19, 2017 7:28:18 GMT
When the year bring out the diesel will t be called the std?
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Post by PG on Oct 19, 2017 9:26:58 GMT
Just been on the configurator with a far more sensible base car of the E-Hybrid. Still specced it over £100k and £16k deposit and 4 years at my low mileage came to around £1400/month. Still mental! £21k a year overall. As you say, mental pricing. But then maybe we are all just out of touch. |
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 19, 2017 9:58:41 GMT
Just been on the configurator with a far more sensible base car of the E-Hybrid. Still specced it over £100k and £16k deposit and 4 years at my low mileage came to around £1400/month. Still mental! £21k a year overall. As you say, mental pricing. But then maybe we are all just out of touch. Indeed. I am now at that time of life where I think a pint of beer at £5 if ludicrous whereas the next generation down find this the norm, like when I bought my first brand new car for twice the price of my mum and dad's second house on "the property ladder". Thing is if I hadn't got divorced and started a second family that £1400/month would be un-troublesome which is a worrying statement. |
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Post by ChrisM on Oct 19, 2017 11:19:29 GMT
£21k a year overall. As you say, mental pricing. But then maybe we are all just out of touch. Thing is if I hadn't got divorced and started a second family that £1400/month would be un-troublesome which is a worrying statement. Hardly - if I had a bill I paid every month of £1400 and it was "untroublesome", I'd be deliriously happy (financially).... I think you've been very fortunate with jobs/employers and salary in total contrast to me... hated uni, suffered it as parents wanted me to go and ultimately it's not done my career any good. It's all about luck. I've worked for a number of companies run by no-good or no-hope or "corrupt" bosses who have pushed people to the side or out of the company to get their way which in some cases has lead to the company going down the pan for one reason or another. I could go on....... |
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Post by michael on Oct 19, 2017 11:33:41 GMT
Hardly - if I had a bill I paid every month of £1400 and it was "untroublesome", I'd be deliriously happy (financially).... I think you've been very fortunate with jobs/employers and salary in total contrast to me... hated uni, suffered it as parents wanted me to go and ultimately it's not done my career any good. It's all about luck. I've worked for a number of companies run by no-good or no-hope or "corrupt" bosses who have pushed people to the side or out of the company to get their way which in some cases has lead to the company going down the pan for one reason or another. I could go on....... Bollocks it is. You get out what you put in. |
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 19, 2017 11:55:27 GMT
Hmm. I get on at work because I have a certain personality. No one’s looked at my certificates for a couple of decades. FWIW I detest everything about work except (some of) the people and the technical facets and of course the remuneration. Two late-50s chaps were discussing stuff in the changing rooms recently at the Club and one mentioned his “career” and the other laughed and said “I’ve never had a career: I have a job. It serves one purpose and that’s to pay for everything I want, need or like.” That’s my kind of chap. I think my ex-wife is proof money isn’t happiness: never had to work, kids that adore her, 4 bed house in Godalming etc etc. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’d give up my relative wealth and comfort for the chance to share a bottle of Wray and Nephew with my late dad and remind him how much I love him.
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 19, 2017 11:56:29 GMT
double post due to fucking O2 WiFi
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 19, 2017 11:56:32 GMT
Hardly - if I had a bill I paid every month of £1400 and it was "untroublesome", I'd be deliriously happy (financially).... I think you've been very fortunate with jobs/employers and salary in total contrast to me... hated uni, suffered it as parents wanted me to go and ultimately it's not done my career any good. It's all about luck. I've worked for a number of companies run by no-good or no-hope or "corrupt" bosses who have pushed people to the side or out of the company to get their way which in some cases has lead to the company going down the pan for one reason or another. I could go on....... Bollocks it is. You get out what you put in. Yes, but there is undeniably also an element of luck to it as well.
I know too many people who are nothing special but just have a knack for being in the right place at the right time with the right people. And it's not just down to ruthless networking and spotting dud situations (and getting out of them in time). Some people are just jammy.
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Post by michael on Oct 19, 2017 12:13:57 GMT
There's always luck but hard work is a sure thing for success.
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Post by franki68 on Oct 19, 2017 12:23:08 GMT
There's always luck but hard work is a sure thing for success. Absolutely not.Its a massive help but I know of plenty of successful people who don't and never have worked hard and plenty of poor people who work very hard. |
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Post by Blarno on Oct 19, 2017 13:49:53 GMT
I work my arse off and I have a very small pot to piss in.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 19, 2017 14:06:42 GMT
There's always luck but hard work is a sure thing for success. Not, for example, if you have a boss who ensures you are kept in the background and who takes all the credit. Mercifully, it's not been my personal experience but you see and hear of it all the time. |
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 19, 2017 16:00:48 GMT
Luck in the most part is just preparation waiting for an opportunity. Don't be afraid to move jobs and roles until you find one you either like, which is the dream, or more likely pays enough that you can ignore how shit it is and what a bunch of ***** it is you work for
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Post by michael on Oct 19, 2017 16:02:50 GMT
There's always luck but hard work is a sure thing for success. Not, for example, if you have a boss who ensures you are kept in the background and who takes all the credit. Mercifully, it's not been my personal experience but you see and hear of it all the time. Then you'd move on and create new opportunity - you make you're own luck. |
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Post by Stuntman on Oct 19, 2017 20:45:47 GMT
Luck (whether good or bad) certainly can play a large part in anyone's relative personal, financial or sporting success, but talent and hard work plays a large part as well. If you have limited talent and a poor work ethic then you would have to rely on superb luck.
Anyway - back to the Panamera. I like the colour too, the interior is spectacular and I bet it goes like a rocket.
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Post by Martin on Oct 19, 2017 21:36:29 GMT
Not, for example, if you have a boss who ensures you are kept in the background and who takes all the credit. Mercifully, it's not been my personal experience but you see and hear of it all the time. Then you'd move on and create new opportunity - you make you're own luck. Not always easy, but you can make your own luck if you put the effort in to do as much research as possible before joining an organisation and remember that interviews are two way. Back to the original point. Some might say that being gifted enough money to buy a fleet of new cars, frivolous number plates and several holidays is fairly lucky.....  |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 19, 2017 22:00:32 GMT
Thing is if I hadn't got divorced and started a second family that £1400/month would be un-troublesome which is a worrying statement. Hardly - if I had a bill I paid every month of £1400 and it was "untroublesome", I'd be deliriously happy (financially).... I think you've been very fortunate with jobs/employers and salary in total contrast to me... hated uni, suffered it as parents wanted me to go and ultimately it's not done my career any good. It's all about luck. I've worked for a number of companies run by no-good or no-hope or "corrupt" bosses who have pushed people to the side or out of the company to get their way which in some cases has lead to the company going down the pan for one reason or another. I could go on....... Gary Player always said he found the harder he worked the luckier he got. I'm guessing you're a bit of a glass half empty sort of chap Chris. I'm not wealthy and I don't claim to be successful but I'm fortunate to be in the richest 5% of this planet. Moreover in the UK compared to the other 90% I seem to be doing OK, with no immediate money worries, and when you see people struggling from paycheck to paycheck, using foodbanks, wondering if they can keep a roof over their head, I really do think I'm lucky. If I was in your position, mortgage paid off, three brand new cars on the drive, foreign holidays etc (but more importantly; husband, father, grandfather), I'm not sure I could cast envious eyes towards others. |
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