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Post by racingteatray on Sept 15, 2017 23:26:46 GMT
So that was a bit close for comfort this morning. Fortunately, we both had the day off today as we drove up to Derbyshire today for the weekend. Which meant no going near the tube but nevertheless we woke up to cacophony of wailing sirens and a police helicopter hovering overhead making a racket. Kind of glad we had a pre-planned excuse to get the hell out of Dodge! Which took ages due to the road closures and ensuing traffic chaos.
You don't quite expect it in quiet residential parts of London. Fortunately it seems not to have properly detonated, but at least one friend was evacuated from her house near the station.
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 16, 2017 7:03:37 GMT
How many people asked if you were safe? W2.0 had loads.
I went through Battersea as opposed to up the Kings Road yesterday. Lucky choice as opposed to anything else.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 16, 2017 17:49:03 GMT
So, basically, someone was allowed to walk onto a train with a large bucket unchallenged, but it's OK as Mayor Khan says not to worry.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 17, 2017 20:54:50 GMT
How many people asked if you were safe? W2.0 had loads. I went through Battersea as opposed to up the Kings Road yesterday. Lucky choice as opposed to anything else. Yes, loads - it was quite the topic of the day. Frankly we were glad to be gone for the weekend and have only just got back. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 17, 2017 21:02:20 GMT
So, basically, someone was allowed to walk onto a train with a large bucket unchallenged, but it's OK as Mayor Khan says not to worry. Nothing wrong with walking round with a large bucket, or tool box ....... |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 18, 2017 12:08:07 GMT
So, basically, someone was allowed to walk onto a train with a large bucket unchallenged, but it's OK as Mayor Khan says not to worry. Nothing wrong with walking round with a large bucket, or tool box ....... You're OK, your bucket only has dirty water and a gritty sponge in it. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 18, 2017 12:18:15 GMT
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LOL !!!
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Post by Nelson on Sept 18, 2017 13:01:23 GMT
this just proves that no one and no where is safe. I was in London during the school summer hols for a day out and didn't feel scared but a little apprehensive and I was always aware of my surroundings and did ensure I kept an eye open for anything that looked suspicious. We travelled that day on the tube only a short distance.
From Euston Square to Tower Hill, then back to Embankment
I took the decision to walk a lot too. A visit to the Tower of London was some distance then we walked from the Embankment tube across Golden Jubilee Bridges to the Southbank then after a rest and go on the Carousel for Isabel and a play in the new park behind the London Eye across Westminster Bridge to the HoP then along Whitehall to Trafalgar Square then up the Mall to Buckingham Palace, stopping off in St. James' Park for a pee then up through Green Park to Piccadilly then past the Ritz to Regent Street, up Regent Street to stop off at Hamleys, then up to the BBC where we stopped to see the setting up of the One Show, then walked up through Fitzrovia to Charlotte Street (Goodge Street nearest tube) where we stopped for a meal at Zizzi's, the up the Tottenham Court Road back to Euston.
Yes, I agree that during that mammoth walk (ever more so for an 8 year old too) we could have encountered potential terrorists using vehicles to mow us down, a suicide bomber could have easily been walking with us along the Southbank (it was packed) and any 'big' shop could have been targeted en-route.
But we went through our day with an air of scepticism and apprehension but we knew that sadly its not just the big well known places that are vulnerable, everywhere is, but this didn't deter from us doing what we wanted to do, seeing lots of places and going about our business without fear.
I am grateful that the device didn't detonate properly, for the unfortunate ones that suffered burns and will now be mentally scarred and traumatised for many years I am grateful they still have their lives but as the security chiefs said they don't have the resources to actively watch all suspects (over 3000 was a figure I heard banding about). There was a lot of reassuring signs on my day in London...a lot of undercover armed Police for one in cars parked in side streets. Not highly visible (this being the point of undercover) but you could just tell from a quick glance these guys weren't tourists.
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 18, 2017 13:34:56 GMT
....... we went through our day with an air of scepticism and apprehension but we knew that sadly its not just the big well known places that are vulnerable, everywhere is, but this didn't deter from us doing what we wanted to do, seeing lots of places and going about our business without fear. And this is the mentality to retain. I remember buses being blown up, the notices on the news regarding the anonymous phone calls and various other disruptors as I grew up from goofy teen to socially-inept-first-jobber, all in the London area. At half term I used to get the train from Epsom, jump on the Northern Line at Waterloo, Change at Camden Town and alight at Highgate to walk through the woods to my aunt's house on my own from the age of about 9: I wouldn't let my kids do that now but that's more to do with their demeanour and upbringing of always being with a parent than a proliferation of London based loonies. The moment we show fear of the slightest possibility of a risk we are lost. Don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes, men.... |
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Post by johnc on Sept 18, 2017 13:56:24 GMT
According to the news, apparently carried out by an orphaned Iraqi teenager who was given asylum in the UK.
After doing his 20 years I presume he will be up for instant deportation. More importantly though, who has been filling his head with nonsense: that is the person they really need to catch. |
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Post by scouse on Sept 18, 2017 15:37:26 GMT
According to the news, apparently carried out by an orphaned Iraqi teenager who was given asylum in the UK.
After doing his 20 years I presume he will be up for instant deportation. More importantly though, who has been filling his head with nonsense: that is the person they really need to catch. Which will no doubt take another 20 years of appeals etc. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 19, 2017 9:13:44 GMT
According to the news, apparently carried out by an orphaned Iraqi teenager who was given asylum in the UK.
After doing his 20 years I presume he will be up for instant deportation. More importantly though, who has been filling his head with nonsense: that is the person they really need to catch. He won't be deported, on release he will be added to a watch list which grows ever longer each year. For the rest of his life billions of pounds will be spent monitoring him and the other tens of thousands on the list. My godson is in army intelligence and most of his time and his colleagues' is now taken up on the very expensive activity. |
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Post by johnc on Sept 19, 2017 9:19:41 GMT
According to the news, apparently carried out by an orphaned Iraqi teenager who was given asylum in the UK.
After doing his 20 years I presume he will be up for instant deportation. More importantly though, who has been filling his head with nonsense: that is the person they really need to catch. He won't be deported, on release he will be added to a watch list which grows ever longer each year. For the rest of his life billions of pounds will be spent monitoring him and the other tens of thousands on the list. My godson is in army intelligence and most of his time and his colleagues' is now taken up on the very expensive activity. Someone needs to come up with a different solution to that one! |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 19, 2017 9:39:44 GMT
He won't be deported, on release he will be added to a watch list which grows ever longer each year. For the rest of his life billions of pounds will be spent monitoring him and the other tens of thousands on the list. My godson is in army intelligence and most of his time and his colleagues' is now taken up on the very expensive activity. Someone needs to come up with a different solution to that one! Removal to deserted Scottish island was my idea. |
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Post by scouse on Sept 19, 2017 10:08:23 GMT
Someone needs to come up with a different solution to that one! Removal to deserted Scottish island was my idea. A 9mm to the back of the head is mine |
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Post by Boxer6 on Sept 19, 2017 20:34:20 GMT
Someone needs to come up with a different solution to that one! Removal to deserted Scottish island was my idea. Do fuck off m'dear chap; wasn't polluting Guinard with anthrax enough? Surely it's time for some other country's islands to be ruined - Spain, say, or the West Indies? Oops .. .. .. too late! |
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Post by michael on Sept 19, 2017 21:01:31 GMT
Maybe Guinard is the island we need?
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Post by Boxer6 on Sept 19, 2017 21:49:50 GMT
Maybe Guinard is the island we need? That crossed my mind after I posted!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 6:12:42 GMT
Removal to deserted Scottish island was my idea. A 9mm to the back of the head is mine 9mm is overkill, a .22 to the base of the skull would be just as effective and cheaper. Defence cuts after all....... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 6:19:15 GMT
Perhaps these misinformed people are misunderstood. If we start a campaign of subsidised holidays we might get better results? I understand that there are a lot of man made reef projects and sightseeing tours could be very profitable. A nice set of weights and a mask per person would be all that was needed, perhaps recycle the masks and weights though. What? Is there something I have forgotten or something?
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Post by Tim on Sept 20, 2017 10:38:00 GMT
Maybe Guinard is the island we need? That crossed my mind after I posted!
Gruinard isn't a feasible option, it's too close to the mainland.
I reckon if you put them on, ooh lets say, Bute the locals would probably do whatever you needed to them (not just death but they might get a completely different indoctrination from a REAL bunch of 'local' weirdos).
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Post by Alex on Sept 20, 2017 11:20:32 GMT
That crossed my mind after I posted!
Gruinard isn't a feasible option, it's too close to the mainland.
I reckon if you put them on, ooh lets say, Bute the locals would probably do whatever you needed to them (not just death but they might get a completely different indoctrination from a REAL bunch of 'local' weirdos).
Didn't a certain infamous ex forum member come from Bute? |
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Post by Tim on Sept 20, 2017 11:39:33 GMT
No, he came from Dahn Sarth originally but stayed in an area near Bute but on the mainland.
I wouldn't recommend anyone to stay on Bute for any longer than a holiday really. Some of the natives aren't friendly although I suppose it can be a nice place if you avoid them.
Pity it only accessible by ferry rather than bridge.
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Post by PG on Sept 20, 2017 12:23:30 GMT
As said above, the sheer number of people on the watch list is crazy.
What's wrong with deportation back to Iraq for him (preferably to an area that hates his branch if the religion of peace...)? Apart from the asylum, legal, other issues that a combination of governments and extra governmental bodies have put in the way over the years, of course, that make this most simple solution utterly impossible.
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