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Post by PetrolEd on Nov 11, 2024 13:07:40 GMT
I'm no fan of Farage but I do find this extraordinary discussion of how long he is spending in Clacton a bit strange. I know of no other politician who has been subject to the same level of scrutiny - and I'd be interested to hear their responses if they were. Isn't it because he basically hasn't been seen in his constituency since July 4th? I doubt many MPs are in their constituency a lot but from what little I've seen he's taking the piss. Do you think the people of Clacton mind? I'm sure they were well aware why they voted Nigel in and are happy for him to be the disrupter on the larger landscape rather then running surgeries in Clacton. Like whats happened with Trump, It's the negative reporting in the general news around Reform with which will see them do very well at the next election and people will question why the public vote for them. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 11, 2024 13:31:25 GMT
I'm no fan of Farage but I do find this extraordinary discussion of how long he is spending in Clacton a bit strange. I know of no other politician who has been subject to the same level of scrutiny - and I'd be interested to hear their responses if they were. Isn't it because he basically hasn't been seen in his constituency since July 4th? I doubt many MPs are in their constituency a lot but from what little I've seen he's taking the piss. Until recently, our MP was Nick Brown. He was suspended by the Labour Party in Sept 22 over something that had happened 25 years previously concerning a political rival. No idea what it was, never been made public, he resigned end of 23 as the disciplinary process was still ongoing. We've basically had no MP for over 2 years but no-one is asking Labour what the hell is going on. I'm sure if it was Farage it would have been top of the news agenda for the last 2 years. The mistake Farage has made is to not buy Sturgeon's motorhome off her and live in it in a Clacton car park. |
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 11, 2024 13:59:17 GMT
Yep, the MP not in their constituency thing is surprising. When I lived in Milford I only saw Jeremy Hunt when he was a guest at a charity ball at Charterhouse College. I can’t say I gave a fuck one way or the other: I always knew where to find him whilst Parliament was sitting.
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Post by Alex on Nov 11, 2024 15:42:30 GMT
Yep, the MP not in their constituency thing is surprising. When I lived in Milford I only saw Jeremy Hunt when he was a guest at a charity ball at Charterhouse College. I can’t say I gave a fuck one way or the other: I always knew where to find him whilst Parliament was sitting. Most MPs only go to their constituencies on Fridays with parliamentary recess being meant for longer stays back with their constituents but you are right to point out that most MPs are rarely ever scrutinised on this especially if they have a higher calling to be getting on with. |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 12, 2024 9:11:33 GMT
I agree with PG on that point about the electorate being fed up with being lectured at. Trump is very good at talking to the man in the street and making him feel he's on his side (similar to Farage being the politician you'd like to go for a pint with). Harris on the other hand had the likes of Oprah and Taylor Swift telling Trump voters to stay away from the evil fascist and come join them on the right side of history. They should have learnt from the way Brexit happened in that people were told they were stupid if they voted for it so they in turn told the remainers to kindly f**k off. Be interesting to see how the new Labour government copes with him given the rather outspoken views expressed towards Trump by our Foreign Secretary. The ONLY reason I'd go for a pint with him would be to arrange a terrible "accident" at some point during the (hopefully brief) interaction!! And it's nothing to do with his politics, odious as I find them, but just because he's a c*nt of the highest order! (IMHO, of course). Quite. I couldn't agree more. |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 12, 2024 9:25:22 GMT
It isn't so much the personal views of Trump himself that I worry about - there's an unescapable sense that it's all just one massive ego trip for him. It's the people he surrounds himself with and thus enables. He doesn't care what they do because as a very rich and very old man he'll be thinking that it's all entirely academic to him.
Some of his family shouldn't be near power (Don Jr in particular comes across as a bully and a self-regarding waste of oxygen) and I cannot fathom why it might appeal to Americans to turn them into some sort of latter day Kennedys. Then there are Stevens Miller and Bannon, both of whom are weird creeps. And all the various Republicans who having spend years defending the most insignificant minutiae of the US Constitution, suddenly trample all over it if Trump so desires.
I mean do all those Americans who voted them in really want to live in some sort of Christian version of Saudi Arabia? I find that very hard to believe. Freedoms are hard won and easily lost, and for all that American voters seemed to fear the Democrats stripping away their liberties, it seems to me that there is a rather greater risk of this with what used to be the GOP but is really now just the cult of Trump.
Remember, that cult now controls the White House, almost certainly both houses of Congress and also has a majority on the Supreme Court. There is very little between now and the mid-terms to stop them behaving exactly how they please. And moreover they will know that they have precisely two years to do the worst stuff, in case Americans are suffering buyer's remorse come the mid-terms, so they will probably go in hard early.
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Post by Tim on Nov 12, 2024 13:19:20 GMT
I expect there to be some sort of voting reform prior to the midterms - they were busily gerrymandering where they could in the run up to the election and they'll presumably redouble those efforts to ensure they successfully retain control come the midterms.
You're right about the people around Trump - more than before he's just a figurehead and a useful idiot if things had gone against him/them.
He undoubtedly doesn't give a shit about the Project 2025 stuff but Bannon came straight out of prison and said they needed to get on with it.
It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, happens on his 1st day of power on the (?) 21st January.
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