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Post by racingteatray on Jan 25, 2024 15:54:09 GMT
Well, it's finally here: www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-macan-electricI hated this when I saw the scoop pics but the finished item looks more inoffensive. Launch colours are awful but I configured one in Oak Green with the RS Spider alloys and it actually looked quite nice. £110k for a Turbo configured to my liking though, which doesn't compare brilliantly well to £78k for my GTS last year. |
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Post by chipbutty on Jan 25, 2024 17:24:38 GMT
I like the looks - chunky !
However - I expect like all of the other new German EVs, the real life efficiency (vs WLTP rating) will be extremely disappointing.
Sensible that they are hedging their bets by running it alongside the existing ICE model for another 2 years. It will be interesting to see if this goes the way of the Taycan.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 25, 2024 17:28:48 GMT
I would have preferred 381bhp and 630 mile range tbh.
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Post by Martin on Jan 25, 2024 19:57:53 GMT
I’m still not sure about it, will have to see one properly. I specced up a Turbo without going mad and it was £112k in a foc paint colour. I thought £87k was too much for a Macan when we quite seriously specced up a GTS for Lindsay, another £25k is a lot and like most more expensive EVs, too much for a private buyer. It is a ‘Turbo’ so a better standard spec than the GTS and you can now have Matrix lights (not sure why no HD Matrix) which I’d struggle to buy a car without plus a few other things you’d expect on a car of that price which you couldn’t get in the old Macan.
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e-Macan
Jan 25, 2024 21:03:58 GMT
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Post by PetrolEd on Jan 25, 2024 21:03:58 GMT
Looks like a Chinese copy of the real thing. The product of a drunken night fumble between a Macan and a Ora Funky Cat.
Not sure who’s the market for these when they price them higher than a Cayenne.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 25, 2024 21:29:13 GMT
I’m still not sure about it, will have to see one properly. I specced up a Turbo without going mad and it was £112k in a foc paint colour. I thought £87k was too much for a Macan when we quite seriously specced up a GTS for Lindsay, another £25k is a lot and like most more expensive EVs, too much for a private buyer. It is a ‘Turbo’ so a better standard spec than the GTS and you can now have Matrix lights (not sure why no HD Matrix) which I’d struggle to buy a car without plus a few other things you’d expect on a car of that price which you couldn’t get in the old Macan. How does a turbo work with an EV? |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 25, 2024 21:32:09 GMT
Looks like a Chinese copy of the real thing. The product of a drunken night fumble between a Macan and a Ora Funky Cat.   A "Porscha" Funky Macat perhaps... |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 25, 2024 21:34:40 GMT
I’m still not sure about it, will have to see one properly. I specced up a Turbo without going mad and it was £112k in a foc paint colour. I thought £87k was too much for a Macan when we quite seriously specced up a GTS for Lindsay, another £25k is a lot and like most more expensive EVs, too much for a private buyer. It is a ‘Turbo’ so a better standard spec than the GTS and you can now have Matrix lights (not sure why no HD Matrix) which I’d struggle to buy a car without plus a few other things you’d expect on a car of that price which you couldn’t get in the old Macan. How does a turbo work with an EV? It compresses the marketing hot air into a purer form of bollocks. |
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Post by Martin on Jan 25, 2024 22:01:37 GMT
I’m still not sure about it, will have to see one properly. I specced up a Turbo without going mad and it was £112k in a foc paint colour. I thought £87k was too much for a Macan when we quite seriously specced up a GTS for Lindsay, another £25k is a lot and like most more expensive EVs, too much for a private buyer. It is a ‘Turbo’ so a better standard spec than the GTS and you can now have Matrix lights (not sure why no HD Matrix) which I’d struggle to buy a car without plus a few other things you’d expect on a car of that price which you couldn’t get in the old Macan. How does a turbo work with an EV? Sad that it’s become a trim level across all the models. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 25, 2024 23:26:11 GMT
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Post by Alex on Jan 26, 2024 7:10:12 GMT
Looks like the current model but with Taycan lights. Given how radically different each generation of 911 is to one another I suppose its no surprise that the design approach has been more evolution than revolution. I agree that the pricing is very high and you wonder how that will go down in a market that is now facing high lease costs due to even higher interest rates. I see a fair few Taycans about but it would be a bit of a stretch to suggest they've been selling like hot cakes and this could be similar.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 26, 2024 8:07:52 GMT
How does a turbo work with an EV? Sad that it’s become a trim level across all the models. I sense a class action law suit coming in the US for mis-selling. Can't wait to see the Turbo S version, with the boost turned up. |
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Post by PG on Jan 26, 2024 12:55:21 GMT
I looked at it and thought - ah, a Macan that's been to the gym, put on some bulk and also bought some new flashy jewellery for its front and back. But it does look better than I expected.
This Macan also incorporates two car trends that annoy me:
Why is every generation of car getting wider? The roads are not getting any wider, nor are parking spaces.
What is it with the screens in front of the passenger? Is it a "just because we can" gimmick?
And of course the prices are eye-watering.
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Post by Ben on Jan 26, 2024 13:13:50 GMT
Sad that it’s become a trim level across all the models. I sense a class action law suit coming in the US for mis-selling. Can't wait to see the Turbo S version, with the boost turned up. The Taycan has had the Turbo trim since its launch. |
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Post by Martin on Jan 26, 2024 13:21:08 GMT
I looked at it and thought - ah, a Macan that's been to the gym, put on some bulk and also bought some new flashy jewellery for its front and back. But it does look better than I expected. This Macan also incorporates two car trends that annoy me: Why is every generation of car getting wider? The roads are not getting any wider, nor are parking spaces. What is it with the screens in front of the passenger? Is it a "just because we can" gimmick? And of course the prices are eye-watering. Yes, I love tech more than most but agree it's a pointless gimmick. It's barely any closer to the passenger than the central screen in most cars. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 26, 2024 13:22:46 GMT
I looked at it and thought - ah, a Macan that's been to the gym, put on some bulk and also bought some new flashy jewellery for its front and back. But it does look better than I expected. This Macan also incorporates two car trends that annoy me: Why is every generation of car getting wider? The roads are not getting any wider, nor are parking spaces. What is it with the screens in front of the passenger? Is it a "just because we can" gimmick? And of course the prices are eye-watering. Yes, I noticed the width increase. I already struggle with mine through a width restrictor! |
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Post by Martin on Jan 26, 2024 13:35:52 GMT
The body (or mirror folded width) is only 1cm wider, it's the width including mirrors that's grown by a fairly large amount. Larger mirrors or they fold differently....whatever the answer, it's 1.94m with mirrors folded (old Macan is 1.93m), so still a snug fit through a width restrictor and the same width as a Panamera and Cayenne.
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Post by alf on Feb 6, 2024 10:15:15 GMT
So.... the previous Porsche SUV's were a sort jacked up 911, and now they are a jacked-up Taycan.
Love it or loathe it, the 911 has the best heritage of any sports car ever. The Taycan is just a reasonably sleek BEV, a category of car most people don't aspire to own at all, and are just being forced to.
Good luck with that.
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Post by PetrolEd on Feb 6, 2024 13:50:43 GMT
So.... the previous Porsche SUV's were a sort jacked up 911, and now they are a jacked-up Taycan. Love it or loathe it, the 911 has the best heritage of any sports car ever. The Taycan is just a reasonably sleek BEV, a category of car most people don't aspire to own at all, and are just being forced to. Good luck with that. After the initial rush to be the first to be seen in a new Macan, very much like the Taycan, 18 months after production these will probably be a damn hard sell. Compared to the ICE Macan that was a cash cow all the way through its production span. Porsche like all the other German prestige brands must be worried. They might have to make the 911 electric just so the trickle down effect comes into play. |
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Post by johnc on Feb 7, 2024 12:18:56 GMT
I enquired about the business lease costs on a Macan EV about a month ago but apparently no figures are available yet. It won't be a turbo though! About £83/£84K will get a decent spec base model without going too daft.
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Post by Martin on Feb 7, 2024 12:44:28 GMT
The Taycan is going to be a whole lot cheaper soon, as the facelift car has just been announced with a bigger battery, much better range, faster charging and more performance. Not that it needed more performance! The base RWD car gets to 60 in 4.5 seconds and the Turbo S is down to 2.3 seconds with power up to 938hp when using launch control.
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Post by PetrolEd on Feb 7, 2024 13:05:49 GMT
One thing the Taycan certainly didn't need is extra warp factor. Quicker then a 918 hypercar while doing the commute.
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Post by johnc on Feb 7, 2024 16:57:47 GMT
Give those lacking in some intelligence a Taycan and this is what happens:
EDIT: I should add that we were EV shopping at the weekend and most of the cars had power to the car which means that if you push the Start button, it is basically ready to go unless there is some means for the dealer to lock down the car in showroom mode.
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